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Reply #30 posted 07/29/05 3:50pm

thesexofit

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I got 4 of his solo albums. "gemini" being my fav.



From the hi-tech funk of "real love" to the sweet poppy ballads of "after you", the album has a bit of everything under one synth midi filled roof.

"in the storm" has the prince co-written cut "tip of my tongue". Good song. I love "fastlane" wth kool mo dee too. I think muarice white produced the whole album.

" heart mind and soul" is ok, but too much babyface.
[Edited 7/29/05 15:51pm]
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Reply #31 posted 07/29/05 3:53pm

Hotlegs

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butterfli25 said:



wasn't it Chico Debarge that went to jail not EL?

Also although I loved Debarge I was still originally in Love with Bobby, El's older brother who was the lead singer os Switch.




So Debarge was just rehash for me.....


Yes, butter.....it was Chico that went to jail.....

luv me some smooth chico noise

rose

Chico went to jail for selling dope. Whereas,El did serve some time for rape. Remember , Legs knows the deal.
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Reply #32 posted 07/29/05 7:17pm

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lovedad43 said:

Was'nt Chico suppose do something w/ Janet but she got cold feet at the last minute, I remember reading that in Vibe magazine.


Actually, James Debarge was Janet's first husband.
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Reply #33 posted 07/29/05 7:23pm

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Hotlegs said:

pippet said:



Yes, butter.....it was Chico that went to jail.....

luv me some smooth chico noise

rose

Chico went to jail for selling dope. Whereas,El did serve some time for rape. Remember , Legs knows the deal.


2 questions of you Ms. Legs:

1. Were there any of the Debarge sibings with drug problems (beside James, Bobby, & Chico)?

2. Was James bisexual? (BTW, this was rumor to be part of the reason why Janet left him).
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Reply #34 posted 07/29/05 7:54pm

MsLegs

TonyVanDam said:

Hotlegs said:


Chico went to jail for selling dope. Whereas,El did serve some time for rape. Remember , Legs knows the deal.


2 questions of you Ms. Legs:

1. Were there any of the Debarge sibings with drug problems (beside James, Bobby, & Chico)?

2. Was James bisexual? (BTW, this was rumor to be part of the reason why Janet left him).

James Debarge had a cocaine problem and was bisexual. Also, some of the Debarge brothers that were in Switch also had problems with drugs as well.
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Reply #35 posted 07/29/05 8:53pm

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Biggie Smalls remix for One More Chance, that remix that was killin em, that was El Debarge's music from his song Stay With Me & that was a hot song also!
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Reply #36 posted 07/29/05 9:24pm

jbell

I don't know if I would say the Debarge group is underrated, but I would say
that "Switch" is.
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Reply #37 posted 07/29/05 10:16pm

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MsLegs said:

TonyVanDam said:



2 questions of you Ms. Legs:

1. Were there any of the Debarge sibings with drug problems (beside James, Bobby, & Chico)?

2. Was James bisexual? (BTW, this was rumor to be part of the reason why Janet left him).

James Debarge had a cocaine problem and was bisexual. Also, some of the Debarge brothers that were in Switch also had problems with drugs as well.


At least Tommy is still alive. But poor Bobby is the one who died of AIDS (using bad needles?). So much family drama back in the days. sad
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Reply #38 posted 07/30/05 7:16am

Nick715

Ok, now I gotta go pull out my Debarge "Greatest Hits" CD!
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Reply #39 posted 07/30/05 10:26am

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TonyVanDam said:

Hotlegs said:


Chico went to jail for selling dope. Whereas,El did serve some time for rape. Remember , Legs knows the deal.


2 questions of you Ms. Legs:

1. Were there any of the Debarge sibings with drug problems (beside James, Bobby, & Chico)?

2. Was James bisexual? (BTW, this was rumor to be part of the reason why Janet left him).

I've heard that Janet's problems with James were WAY beyond his bisexuality. There were reports that James' drug problem was so severe that he'd altogether disappear for extended periods of time, leaving Janet totally abandoned. Other times, she'd send for people to retrieve him, and they'd sometimes find him totally zonked out in some seedy part of town somewhere. It seemed a horrible period for them both, and I hope they've both recovered as well as can be expected.
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #40 posted 07/30/05 10:35am

Hotlegs

Lammastide said:

TonyVanDam said:



2 questions of you Ms. Legs:

1. Were there any of the Debarge sibings with drug problems (beside James, Bobby, & Chico)?

2. Was James bisexual? (BTW, this was rumor to be part of the reason why Janet left him).

I've heard that Janet's problems with James were WAY beyond his bisexuality. There were reports that James' drug problem was so severe that he'd altogether disappear for extended periods of time, leaving Janet totally abandoned. Other times, she'd send for people to retrieve him, and they'd sometimes find him totally zonked out in some seedy part of town somewhere. It seemed a horrible period for them both, and I hope they've both recovered as well as can be expected.
[Edited 7/30/05 10:28am]

In addition to his Cocaine addition, I heard that Janet was supposedly pregnant around this time.
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Reply #41 posted 07/31/05 8:27am

CinisterCee

Hotlegs said:


In addition to his Cocaine addition, I heard that Janet was supposedly pregnant around this time.


First time she fell in love, Legs, she didn't know what hit her.

:::screeeech CRASHH!:::
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Reply #42 posted 07/31/05 8:56am

Rhondab

Interesting that I can find info about Chico's jail time but nothing El's. I really don't think El "blew up". He had a couple of hits but that's not "blowin' up" per se.

Where's the source? I'd like to read about it.


and I love me some chico.... razz
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Reply #43 posted 07/31/05 9:39am

Hotlegs

CinisterCee said:

Hotlegs said:


In addition to his Cocaine addition, I heard that Janet was supposedly pregnant around this time.


First time she fell in love, Legs, she didn't know what hit her.

:::screeeech CRASHH!:::

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Reply #44 posted 07/31/05 10:13am

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Rhondab said:

Interesting that I can find info about Chico's jail time but nothing El's. I really don't think El "blew up". He had a couple of hits but that's not "blowin' up" per se.

Where's the source? I'd like to read about it.


and I love me some chico.... razz


Dunno where ya can find info on it Rhondab...but, I do know he was in Jackson, Mi. prison..a place we called "Cooper College"...lol spent his time there is about all I know

and as I said too...luv me some smooth Chico noise drool

hug rose
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Reply #45 posted 07/31/05 10:18am

Rhondab

pippet said:

Rhondab said:

Interesting that I can find info about Chico's jail time but nothing El's. I really don't think El "blew up". He had a couple of hits but that's not "blowin' up" per se.

Where's the source? I'd like to read about it.


and I love me some chico.... razz


Dunno where ya can find info on it Rhondab...but, I do know he was in Jackson, Mi. prison..a place we called "Cooper College"...lol spent his time there is about all I know

and as I said too...luv me some smooth Chico noise drool

hug rose



awwwww thanks Pip!!! hug Its odd that Chico's prison time has gotten more attention and El was the bigger star. Weird!! I still want to read about it. I'll find it somewhere.


Pip has to be the sweetest person on the org!!!
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Reply #46 posted 07/31/05 10:24am

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Rhondab said:

pippet said:



Dunno where ya can find info on it Rhondab...but, I do know he was in Jackson, Mi. prison..a place we called "Cooper College"...lol spent his time there is about all I know

and as I said too...luv me some smooth Chico noise drool

hug rose



awwwww thanks Pip!!! hug Its odd that Chico's prison time has gotten more attention and El was the bigger star. Weird!! I still want to read about it. I'll find it somewhere.


Pip has to be the sweetest person on the org!!!


touched..thank u Rhondab..hug flower

and I'll look about for you too....got me rather curious now...lol
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Reply #47 posted 07/31/05 4:05pm

thesexofit

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I c barely no one has his albums then lol
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Reply #48 posted 07/31/05 4:17pm

whodknee

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His Heart, Mind and Soul cd is very underrated. It's a 90's r&b gem.



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Reply #49 posted 07/31/05 4:18pm

whodknee

DorothyParkerWasCool said:

El Debarge has a beautiful voice and he was a damn good writer/arranger. Hell half the hip-hop/R&B world owes him. They sampled the hell out of his music with Debarge. BTW, he really put the Secret Garden track over the top IMHO.
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Yeah, he and Barry held it down. Al almost killed it. James was alright though.
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Reply #50 posted 07/31/05 4:19pm

thesexofit

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whodknee said:

DorothyParkerWasCool said:

El Debarge has a beautiful voice and he was a damn good writer/arranger. Hell half the hip-hop/R&B world owes him. They sampled the hell out of his music with Debarge. BTW, he really put the Secret Garden track over the top IMHO.
[Edited 7/29/05 14:42pm]


Yeah, he and Barry held it down. Al almost killed it. James was alright though.



I prefer al b sure! on that track then I do el.
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Reply #51 posted 08/01/05 6:21am

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ok Ms. Legs where is it?

I don't see anything on El going to jail, just Bobby and Chico....


can you produce a source? I am interested to see when and where this happened..







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Reply #52 posted 08/01/05 6:25am

DavidEye

thesexofit said:

whodknee said:



Yeah, he and Barry held it down. Al almost killed it. James was alright though.



I prefer al b sure! on that track then I do el.



Oh please...the three other singers on that song (James,El,and Barry) absolutely blow Al away.They make him sound like a Star Search wannabee lol
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Reply #53 posted 08/01/05 8:05am

Hotlegs

butterfli25 said:

ok Ms. Legs where is it?

I don't see anything on El going to jail, just Bobby and Chico....


can you produce a source? I am interested to see when and where this happened..







still looking edit


Read a past issue of Jet and you'll find everything you need to know.
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Reply #54 posted 08/01/05 8:54am

Hotlegs

thesexofit said:

I c barely no one has his albums then lol

hmph! Wrong. Of course, you're not Old School. So, I can't fault you for you're ignorance. The Debarge Family has been out since the 70's .
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Reply #55 posted 08/01/05 9:18am

Stymie

Lammastide said:

Why wasn't this guy ever HUGE!?! Just listen to "Love Always"and convince yourself it's not one of the early 80s' prettiest r&b ballads. Can't be done!


[Edited 7/29/05 6:33am]
worship Thank you for starting this thread, Lamma. hug
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Reply #56 posted 08/01/05 9:19am

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Hotlegs said:

thesexofit said:

I c barely no one has his albums then lol

hmph! Wrong. Of course, you're not Old School. So, I can't fault you for you're ignorance. The Debarge Family has been out since the 70's .


Yeah but his solos Iam talking about. I got one debarge album somewhere? It was their last one.
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Reply #57 posted 08/01/05 9:21am

Stymie

thesexofit said:

I got 4 of his solo albums. "gemini" being my fav.



From the hi-tech funk of "real love" to the sweet poppy ballads of "after you", the album has a bit of everything under one synth midi filled roof.

"in the storm" has the prince co-written cut "tip of my tongue". Good song. I love "fastlane" wth kool mo dee too. I think muarice white produced the whole album.

" heart mind and soul" is ok, but too much babyface.
[Edited 7/29/05 15:51pm]
clapping I love Real Love and Somebody Loves You from that album.
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Reply #58 posted 08/01/05 9:21am

Hotlegs

thesexofit said:

Hotlegs said:


hmph! Wrong. Of course, you're not Old School. So, I can't fault you for you're ignorance. The Debarge Family has been out since the 70's .


Yeah but his solos Iam talking about. I got one debarge album somewhere? It was their last one.

Ok.
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Reply #59 posted 08/01/05 9:24am

Stymie

whodknee said:

PrettyMan72 said:

His Heart, Mind and Soul cd is very underrated. It's a 90's r&b gem.



nod
nod It was a really great album that did not get the promotion it deserved.
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