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Thread started 07/29/05 6:29am

Lammastide

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A very, VERY underrated voice: El Debarge!

Why wasn't this guy ever HUGE!?! Just listen to "Love Always"and convince yourself it's not one of the early 80s' prettiest r&b ballads. Can't be done!


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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #1 posted 07/29/05 6:45am

AsianConnectio
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:worship:Much props to El worship
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Reply #2 posted 07/29/05 6:49am

DavidEye

I always wondered why he never made it big as a solo act.He could certainly sing...he had "the look" that the ladies went crazy over...and he had the right material."Love Always" and "Someone" (from his 1986 solo debut album) should have turned him into a superstar.I guess folks just preferred him as a member of DeBarge? confuse
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Reply #3 posted 07/29/05 6:50am

IstenSzek

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hehe. people on the org are always talking about El Debarge
I never heard of him before.

In fact, up until this thread, with the picture, I used to
think that El Debarge was a woman!

I guess he was only big in the states, right?

confuse
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Reply #4 posted 07/29/05 7:02am

DavidEye

IstenSzek said:

hehe. people on the org are always talking about El Debarge
I never heard of him before.

In fact, up until this thread, with the picture, I used to
think that El Debarge was a woman!

I guess he was only big in the states, right?

confuse


LOL...DeBarge was a singing group made up of four brothers and their sister Bunny.El was the lead singer.Their hits include "I Like It" (1982),"All This Love" (1982),"Time Will Reveal" (1983),"Rhythm Of The Night"(1985) and "Who's Holding Donna Now"(1985).In 1986,El released his first solo album.One sidenote:in 1984,Janet Jackson married one of the guys in this group,but it was annulled less than a year later.


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Reply #5 posted 07/29/05 7:03am

vainandy

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His voice is really great on "I Like It". I love a good falsetto.
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Reply #6 posted 07/29/05 7:05am

Alasseon

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He was great. Absolutely a wonderful talent.

His last great hit that I can remember? Secret Garden...
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Reply #7 posted 07/29/05 7:09am

Idais

El has a beautiful voice and was also a talented writer and piano player. He shoulda blew up bigtime. Ah well...
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Reply #8 posted 07/29/05 7:42am

JackieBlue

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Yeah, El has a wonderful unique voice. I was really surprised when he did those songs with DJ Quick a few years back. Not in good taste but he's definitely talented.
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Reply #9 posted 07/29/05 8:20am

RipHer2Shreds

vainandy said:

His voice is really great on "I Like It". I love a good falsetto.

nod His is one of my fave falsetto voices.
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Reply #10 posted 07/29/05 9:50am

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Lammastide said:

Why wasn't this guy ever HUGE!?! Just listen to "Love Always"and convince yourself it's not one of the early 80s' prettiest r&b ballads. Can't be done!


[Edited 7/29/05 6:33am]


You Wear It Well was my favorite track.

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Reply #11 posted 07/29/05 10:48am

CinisterCee

whistle oooooh an I like it
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Reply #12 posted 07/29/05 1:08pm

purplecam

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I used to have all their albums and El's first solo album. El should have been a superstar, no doubt about it.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #13 posted 07/29/05 1:22pm

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Robert Chrisgau thinks that El is a better singer then Luthor.

"Heart, Mind and Soul [Reprise, 1994]
The great lost love man enlists Babyface (five songs, four jumpy), Jermaine Dupri (one trick groove), various siblings (backing up his ballads), and the shade of Marvin Gaye (self-penned title finale) in an overdue quest for his own genius. The incomparable In a Special Way was 1983, and those hung up on the irretrievable innocence and naturalness of the past may take offense at the digital aesthetic, not to mention El's occasional descent into a manly tenor. Me, I applaud his appetite for the freaky, and note fondly that he adores her for it in the morning, as dogged as ever in his helpless devotion. I urge him to find more harmony work for Bunny and the others. But this is his second-best album. A-"

"DeBarge--In a Special Way [Gordy, 1983]
When first I fell in love with the austere lilt and falsetto fantasy they've pinned to plastic here, I thought it was just that I'd finally outgrown the high-energy fixation that's always blocked my emotional access to falsetto ballads. So I went back to Spinners and Blue Magic, Philip Bailey and my man Russell Thompkins Jr., and indeed, they all struck a little deeper--but only, I soon realized, because the superior skill of these kids had opened me up. I know of no pop music more shameless in its pursuit of pure beauty--not emotional (much less intellectual) expression, just voices joining for their own sweet sake, with the subtle Latinized rhythms (like the close harmonies themselves) working to soften odd melodic shapes and strengthen the music's weave. High energy doesn't always manifest itself as speed and volume--sometimes it gets winnowed down to its essence. A+"
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #14 posted 07/29/05 1:26pm

CinisterCee

I think we deserve to have these two albums remastered, and perhaps extended into deluxe editions.

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Reply #15 posted 07/29/05 1:33pm

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He does have a fine voice. In general, Motown's 80's stuff is often overlooked.
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Reply #16 posted 07/29/05 1:37pm

Hotlegs

Idais said:

El has a beautiful voice and was also a talented writer and piano player. He shoulda blew up bigtime. Ah well...

He did blow up pretty big. He had alot of Pop Solo singles after he left Debarge such as: I Wonder Who's Holding Donna Now, Who's Johnnie, You Wear It Well, and Dance With Me. I especially remember You Wear It Well b/c that single was produced by Jesse Johnson. Overall, El Debarge's solo career was doing well until some women accused him of rape and it ended up like a 2Pac/Tyson situation and he ended up serving some time. However, he did make a comeback with Foreplay and DJ Quick.
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Reply #17 posted 07/29/05 1:42pm

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Time Will Reveal makes me wanna cry for joy. Classic song that even makes Prince weak.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #18 posted 07/29/05 2:08pm

butterfli25

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Hotlegs said:

Idais said:

El has a beautiful voice and was also a talented writer and piano player. He shoulda blew up bigtime. Ah well...

He did blow up pretty big. He had alot of Pop Solo singles after he left Debarge such as: I Wonder Who's Holding Donna Now, Who's Johnnie, You Wear It Well, and Dance With Me. I especially remember You Wear It Well b/c that single was produced by Jesse Johnson. Overall, El Debarge's solo career was doing well until some women accused him of rape and it ended up like a 2Pac/Tyson situation and he ended up serving some time. However, he did make a comeback with Foreplay and DJ Quick.


wasn't it Chico Debarge that went to jail not EL?

Also although I loved Debarge I was still originally in Love with Bobby, El's older brother who was the lead singer os Switch.


So Debarge was just rehash for me.....
butterfly
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Reply #19 posted 07/29/05 2:17pm

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butterfli25 said:

Hotlegs said:


He did blow up pretty big. He had alot of Pop Solo singles after he left Debarge such as: I Wonder Who's Holding Donna Now, Who's Johnnie, You Wear It Well, and Dance With Me. I especially remember You Wear It Well b/c that single was produced by Jesse Johnson. Overall, El Debarge's solo career was doing well until some women accused him of rape and it ended up like a 2Pac/Tyson situation and he ended up serving some time. However, he did make a comeback with Foreplay and DJ Quick.


wasn't it Chico Debarge that went to jail not EL?

Also although I loved Debarge I was still originally in Love with Bobby, El's older brother who was the lead singer os Switch.




So Debarge was just rehash for me.....


Yes, butter.....it was Chico that went to jail.....

luv me some smooth chico noise

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Reply #20 posted 07/29/05 2:28pm

butterfli25

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there ya go pip!
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Reply #21 posted 07/29/05 2:33pm

pippet

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butterfli25 said:

there ya go pip!



drool love2

I sure needed that butter...hug rose
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Reply #22 posted 07/29/05 2:36pm

lovedad43

Was'nt Chico suppose do something w/ Janet but she got cold feet at the last minute, I remember reading that in Vibe magazine.
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Reply #23 posted 07/29/05 2:40pm

Imago777

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Oh lawd. We need you back in P&R pray
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Reply #24 posted 07/29/05 2:41pm

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El Debarge has a beautiful voice and he was a damn good writer/arranger. Hell half the hip-hop/R&B world owes him. They sampled the hell out of his music with Debarge. BTW, he really put the Secret Garden track over the top IMHO.
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Reply #25 posted 07/29/05 2:44pm

pippet

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"Dance with me" ..music Fourplay

rose
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Reply #26 posted 07/29/05 2:48pm

pippet

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redface that was ..after lookin at the cd

"After the dance"...w/Fourplay

music

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Reply #27 posted 07/29/05 2:55pm

PrettyMan72

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His Heart, Mind and Soul cd is very underrated. It's a 90's r&b gem.
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Reply #28 posted 07/29/05 3:30pm

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Holds Pippet.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #29 posted 07/29/05 3:36pm

pippet

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2freaky4church1 said:

Holds Pippet.


Thanks..I need a hug today....oh, wait....I bet ya meant to dance huh..redface

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