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Reply #30 posted 07/26/05 5:20am

JANFAN4L

Prospect said:

JANFAN4L said:

Explains Usher's "Confessions" and "Yeah" (why is this s**t the biggest record of this decade, so far)

Explains Ashanti entire career (notice she's gettting sued lately).

Hopefully, we'll hear some changes on the airwaves.



Judging by Usher's record sales, I think the general republic acutally liked those songs.


:::twilight zone moment::: eek I feel like I'm that man in that episode where he was in a hospital and all of the doctors operating on him were pigs.



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Reply #31 posted 07/26/05 5:32am

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I guess the surprise isn't that it was being done, (most of us knew this shit on the radio was being paid for by the companies) but that they actually got called out for doing it...as the article pointed out, payola certainly ain't new. and it's never really gone away....

I remember when I was younger, we used to call radio stations to see if they would play a song we liked, only to be told by the DJ that the particular song "didn't fit their format"...since that was obviously bullshit, we just assumed that "doesn't fit the format" meant "We haven't been instructed to promote that"...


...but as far as Usher and all these so-called "artists" are concerned, the public will buy them, because they've been told to like them. Generally speaking, the majority of people don't care that much about music one way or the other. the small groups that are passionate about the music are on sites like these. Most folks couldn't give a shit, they follow trends, just want something to dance to, or something to put in the background, and won't like anything until the Media tells them to like it.


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Reply #32 posted 07/26/05 6:09am

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I want them to go after clear channel this company is full of shit

clear channel is the biggest culprit in the airplay game

the record companies r just smaller fish
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Reply #33 posted 07/26/05 7:05am

CreepyCarrie

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I miss the good ole days when people like Madonna got their music played the old fashioned way...by sleeping with someone. razz

falloff I love the story about Madonna basically propositioning Seymour Stein on his sickbed when she was trying to get signed to Sire Records.
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Reply #34 posted 07/26/05 8:01am

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asg said:

I want them to go after clear channel this company is full of shit

clear channel is the biggest culprit in the airplay game

the record companies r just smaller fish

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Reply #35 posted 07/26/05 8:15am

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paligap said:

I guess the surprise isn't that it was being done, (most of us knew this shit on the radio was being paid for by the companies) but that they actually got called out for doing it...as the article pointed out, payola certainly ain't new. and it's never really gone away....



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Reply #36 posted 07/26/05 8:19am

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twink69 said:

I miss the good ole days when people like Madonna got their music played the old fashioned way...by sleeping with someone. razz



Payola is very old-fashioned. It was common practice in the soul days of the 1960s. James Brown became a superstar thanks to Payola, his manager even went to jail for it.
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Reply #37 posted 07/26/05 8:22am

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theAudience said:

paligap said:

I guess the surprise isn't that it was being done, (most of us knew this shit on the radio was being paid for by the companies) but that they actually got called out for doing it...as the article pointed out, payola certainly ain't new. and it's never really gone away....







nod Yup!! that book breaks it down completely...



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Reply #38 posted 07/26/05 8:23am

JANFAN4L

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Payola is very old-fashioned. It was common practice in the soul days of the 1960s. James Brown became a superstar thanks to Payola, his manager even went to jail for it.


Yep. Alan Freed was destroyed over payola.

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Reply #39 posted 07/26/05 8:36am

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JANFAN4L said:

MrSoulpower said:

Payola is very old-fashioned. It was common practice in the soul days of the 1960s. James Brown became a superstar thanks to Payola, his manager even went to jail for it.


Yep. Alan Freed was destroyed over payola.

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Who's Alan Freed? I was talking about Mr Charles Bobbitt. wink
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Reply #40 posted 07/26/05 8:38am

Hotlegs

MrSoulpower said:

JANFAN4L said:



Yep. Alan Freed was destroyed over payola.

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Who's Alan Freed? I was talking about Mr Charles Bobbitt. wink

rolleyes Oh Lord, you don't know who Allen Freed is. You must be a youngster.
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Reply #41 posted 07/26/05 8:40am

Hotlegs

JANFAN4L said:

MrSoulpower said:

Payola is very old-fashioned. It was common practice in the soul days of the 1960s. James Brown became a superstar thanks to Payola, his manager even went to jail for it.


Yep. Alan Freed was destroyed over payola.

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Well, He may gotten taken down for that but he was the only DJ that would acknoweledge where Rock N Roll truly came from and he played Black artists when other racist White DJ's refused. Also, he held the first musical festival which featured both White and Black Groups which was unheard of in the 50's.
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Reply #42 posted 07/26/05 8:47am

JANFAN4L

MrSoulpower said:

JANFAN4L said:



Yep. Alan Freed was destroyed over payola.

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Who's Alan Freed? I was talking about Mr Charles Bobbitt. wink


theAudience said:






"Of course, you don't have to take my word for it*!" ::"Reading Rainbow" jingle::
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Reply #43 posted 07/26/05 8:51am

JANFAN4L

Hotlegs said:

JANFAN4L said:



Yep. Alan Freed was destroyed over payola.

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[Edited 7/26/05 8:23am]

Well, He may gotten taken down for that but he was the only DJ that would acknoweledge where Rock N Roll truly came from and he played Black artists when other racist White DJ's refused. Also, he held the first musical festival which featured both White and Black Groups which was unheard of in the 50's.
[Edited 7/26/05 8:44am]


Yep. Alan Freed was instrumental in further bringing "rock n roll" (a term coined from the Dominoes' hit "Sixty Minute Man") to the white American masses. That concert in Cleveland was like the Def Jam Tour of its day. Few were unaware of how big rock n roll music was becoming the early 50s, but that concert was a surefire sign of a movement.
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Reply #44 posted 07/26/05 8:57am

Hotlegs

JANFAN4L said:

Hotlegs said:


Well, He may gotten taken down for that but he was the only DJ that would acknoweledge where Rock N Roll truly came from and he played Black artists when other racist White DJ's refused. Also, he held the first musical festival which featured both White and Black Groups which was unheard of in the 50's.
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Yep. Alan Freed was instrumental in further bringing "rock n roll" (a term coined from the Dominoes' hit "Sixty Minute Man") to the white American masses. That concert in Cleveland was like the Def Jam Tour of its day. Few were unaware of how big rock n roll music was becoming the early 50s, but that concert was a surefire sign of a movement.


I am very much aware of it because my mom attended it. That music festival was called the Moondog Festival.
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Reply #45 posted 07/26/05 9:04am

JANFAN4L

Hotlegs said:

JANFAN4L said:



Yep. Alan Freed was instrumental in further bringing "rock n roll" (a term coined from the Dominoes' hit "Sixty Minute Man") to the white American masses. That concert in Cleveland was like the Def Jam Tour of its day. Few were unaware of how big rock n roll music was becoming the early 50s, but that concert was a surefire sign of a movement.


I am very much aware of it because my mom attended it. That music festival was called the Moondog Festival.


Your mom is a part of history*!!!!! WHOAA.


BTW, I know you know your stuff. All that background I typed in my response was for the folks out there who do not know the magnitude of that concert or early R n R musica.
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Reply #46 posted 07/26/05 9:10am

Hotlegs

JANFAN4L said:

Hotlegs said:



I am very much aware of it because my mom attended it. That music festival was called the Moondog Festival.


Your mom is a part of history*!!!!! WHOAA.


BTW, I know you know your stuff. All that background I typed in my response was for the folks out there who do not know the magnitude of that concert or early R n R musica.
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Reply #47 posted 07/26/05 9:38am

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JANFAN4L said:

Hotlegs said:


Well, He may gotten taken down for that but he was the only DJ that would acknoweledge where Rock N Roll truly came from and he played Black artists when other racist White DJ's refused. Also, he held the first musical festival which featured both White and Black Groups which was unheard of in the 50's.
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Yep. Alan Freed was instrumental in further bringing "rock n roll" (a term coined from the Dominoes' hit "Sixty Minute Man")...


...which was, itself, a Black slang term for sex! (sorry, y'all were in educational; mode, I just had to chime in!)
jedi

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Reply #48 posted 07/26/05 9:44am

Hotlegs

JediMaster said:

JANFAN4L said:



Yep. Alan Freed was instrumental in further bringing "rock n roll" (a term coined from the Dominoes' hit "Sixty Minute Man")...


...which was, itself, a Black slang term for sex! (sorry, y'all were in educational; mode, I just had to chime in!)

Hey that's cool Jedi. Do your thang man.
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Reply #49 posted 07/26/05 9:47am

VoicesCarry

JANFAN4L said:

Hotlegs said:


Well, He may gotten taken down for that but he was the only DJ that would acknoweledge where Rock N Roll truly came from and he played Black artists when other racist White DJ's refused. Also, he held the first musical festival which featured both White and Black Groups which was unheard of in the 50's.
[Edited 7/26/05 8:44am]


Yep. Alan Freed was instrumental in further bringing "rock n roll" (a term coined from the Dominoes' hit "Sixty Minute Man") to the white American masses. That concert in Cleveland was like the Def Jam Tour of its day. Few were unaware of how big rock n roll music was becoming the early 50s, but that concert was a surefire sign of a movement.


Sixty Minute Man is the shit. That song is absolutely hilarious.
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Reply #50 posted 07/26/05 1:02pm

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JANFAN4L said:

theAudience said:






"Of course, you don't have to take my word for it*!" ::"Reading Rainbow" jingle::


lol!
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Reply #51 posted 07/26/05 1:42pm

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MrSoulpower said:

twink69 said:

I miss the good ole days when people like Madonna got their music played the old fashioned way...by sleeping with someone. razz



Payola is very old-fashioned. It was common practice in the soul days of the 1960s. James Brown became a superstar thanks to Payola, his manager even went to jail for it.


now isn't that somethin!
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
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Reply #52 posted 07/27/05 2:25am

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Sit Yo Ass Down!
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Reply #53 posted 07/27/05 2:26am

Hotlegs

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shocked hrmph That ain't right now. disbelief
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Reply #54 posted 07/27/05 7:04am

DavidEye

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Uh uh...that's just wrong disbelief


but funny too lol
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Reply #55 posted 07/27/05 7:47am

Rhondab

when will they investigate MTV and viacom I'm sure they are on some shit....


they only push certain artists and purposely exclude others.


Where's Toni Braxtons new video?

on launch/yahoo..... confused
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Reply #56 posted 07/27/05 9:57am

Hotlegs

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when will they investigate MTV and viacom I'm sure they are on some shit....


they only push certain artists and purposely exclude others.


Where's Toni Braxtons new video?

on launch/yahoo..... confused

Rhonda, you know they'll never investigate Viacom and Clear Channel b/c their too big of a conglumerate.
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Reply #57 posted 07/27/05 7:57pm

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Prospect said:

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Usher sold a lot of Cds....but he was on radio all the fucking time....it was getting absurd! J. Lo sold pretty well too when her records were helped by payola.


Was Usher's airplay was because of payola or because it was sure shot that would attract millions of (young female) listeners (who buy anything Usher puts out)? - thus boosting the ratings. It seems to me that labels put payola behind any artists they have doubts about like J-Lo or Jessica Simpson. Payola really didnt help Jennifer Lopez on her last album cause it only went platinum. All of her other albums at least sold over 3 million. And they had her single "Get Right" ALL OF THE TIME on the radio. Nobody really seemed to like it, so I believe it was the label's intentions to make us like it.
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If it gets you to sleep that Tommy Mottola, Usher's manager and a major stockholder in Clear Channel, got Usher a lot of airplay because people honestly wanted it....live in your delusions....

And I liked "Get Right" more than any other J. Lo single so far.
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Reply #58 posted 07/27/05 7:58pm

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Hotlegs said:

ShoShonna said:


shocked hrmph That ain't right now. disbelief

But it's almost correct....her singles were dirt cheap while others sold at prices of about $3!
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Reply #59 posted 07/27/05 9:25pm

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"Of course, you don't have to take my word for it*!" ::"Reading Rainbow" jingle::

RIF

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