GangstaFam said:

i have a "few" video tapes that span the length of her career up to ray of light. there are interviews back as far as erotica where she was speaking with very clear annunciation. it was part of the image change and i think she just stuck with it. in truth or dare she was still very midwest meets nyc but she must have taken some speech and voice lessons to clear things up. it got even more obvious after her evita voice lessons. the "accent" has certainly been at an all time high since she relocated to the uk but its by no means anything new.

Anxiety said:

It does! I've been listening to her "Come On Down' quite a bit....I used to think that song was such a joke now I hear how damn catchy it is/was. Could have been a huge hit!

SassyBritches said:

Yeah, but she wasn't born with it, which is the point

RipHer2Shreds said:

If you have her third (and last, to my knowledge) album, which is self titled, check out the back cover! Nearly identical pose!

VoicesCarry said:

She sure coulda used that British enunciation everytime she sang Ixpress Yourself.

VoicesCarry said:

maybe it's maybelline!!!

from the editoral of Vogue

I’m always amazed when I read the things that fat, ugly, balding male journalists allow themselves to write about Madonna, their fabulously well preserved contemporary. “Menopausal” and “the old girl”, were a couple of the milder descriptions that appeared after her performance at the Live 8 concert in Hyde Park. Yeah, right, Mr Love God, and just look at you, I always think, on reading the painfully misogynistic prose of these barrel-shaped boobies.

However, I suspect that the secret of the Madonna phenomenon is a certain restlessness which ensures that she doesn’t sit around fulminating about patronising press but is instinctively always moving on to the next thing, and the next, and the one after that. The trouble is that, at 46, you begin to run out of next things.

However fabulously well preserved, an intelligent woman (and Madonna is certainly that) knows that there is no mileage after a certain point in pretending to be luscious. The result is simply sinister, as a brief tour d’horizon of Botoxed and desperate former beauties will confirm. So, what’s the alternative?

In the States there is no alternative. Unless you’re Barbara Bush, you just carry on getting thinner and thinner, more and more wide-eyed, sadder and madder, until you vanish altogether. You’d think Madonna might have been able to thrive in France, where allure is reckoned to be ageless, but the French are so intolerant of eccentricity (and their music scene is so peculiar). Besides, she’s married to an Englishman.

So, what have the Brits to offer a 46-year-old rock star — apart from an unpleasant claque of paunchy, sex-starved male journalists? Actually, more than you’d imagine. One always thinks of Latin nations as being supremely matriarchal, but in Britain we entertain a long and robust tradition of pale, willowy beauties who deal with the transition from flower-like nymph to middle age and older by becoming Formidable.

VoicesCarry said:

most of us don't use the voice we were born with. to be completely factual, none of us were "born" with any specific accent; our accents are all learned and can be unlearned.

most of us use different voices and intonations depending on the audience and its intended response or impression. i certainly don't speak with that nasty, ugly sounding philadelphia accent with which i was born. am i trying to be something i'm not? no. i am just conscious of how i sound and i want to be perceived in a particular manner in specific circumstances.

we all do it. madonna gets knocked for it, though, because she's madonna.

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Hotlegs said:

Fo real
????

Where have I been? Tina is pretty popular over here in Europe and is followed heavily in the press (both regular media and in the "gossips"). She has a home in nearly every Western European country, but to live in ITALY...damn, that is the créme de la créme!!!!

sosgemini said:

Well...not everybody can sell records like Wendy and Lisa,right?

The point I'm making is that there is interest in Madonna and what she does in her personal life.Look how many times she is discussed here.

Ottensen said:

And she's got far more of a British accent than Madonna ever did.

theVelvetRoper said:

In some cases that can be true, but, in all fairness, as an American expatriate to Europe I can tell you in absolute honesty that your natural accent changes once you live overseas for a period of years. Alot of it has to do with simply going through day to day life just trying to make your English understood to those who speak English with you. What usually happens is that after a certain amount of time your English becomes very "clipped" and enunciated, which comes from the habit of speaking slowly and deliberately in daily conversation, ensuring that, well, people can actually COMPREHEND you when you speak...until you actually have the opportunity to live in a foreign land, the funniest thing is that you never really realize how many dialects of English we have at home in the US. I for example, am a black woman with southern parents, from the midwest, and was educated in boarding schools and later college educated; if I break it down onto paper and into actual verbal exercises that means I speak THREE very distinct dialects of American English! I have my "Ebonics/Southern English", my "midwestern nasal whine" and then my "standardized" English. It's weird, but, over time your "standardized" English becomes clipped and staccato and yes, a very real part of you if you're not at home in the US....

... oddly enough the other dialects never go away 100%...you just need to get back into the place where they originated and resuscitate them once in a while , but yes, it's pretty normal for your standard accent to change from years of speaking in that over-enunciated way we need to (over here) in order to be clearly understood....

DavidEye said:

Oh no, you didn't!

onenitealone said:

MadonnaTribe has heard some fresh and exclusive news about Madonna's upcoming album.The Queen of Pop is currently in Los Angeles mixing her album with Stuart Price and the first single to be released from the new album is called "Hung Up"

That's weird, cos I have American relatives who have been living here for over 10 years and haven't changed their accents at all. And the English tend to speak faster than Americans anyway so any US residents wouldn't have to slow down their speech - and NO American would ever have to change their dialect to be understood unless they were perhaps from the south. It's more like the other way around with the English and our huge array of accents having trouble being understood in the US.

Ellie said:

Yeah, well they don't have Guy's juicy mockney cock 2 play with every night.

Some people need 2 get over the accent, I know people who
moved within the same country (less than 100 km) & their accents
have changed according 2 the regional dialect.
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people need something to pick on Mads about. since about 2001 onwards its been the "accent" and Kaballah. i'm sure with the new project will come a new thing to pick about.

One less overrated bitch to worry about. Do you know she doesn't let her kids watch tv? She says that she doesn't look at the news either.

Good for her. She looks happy. Her kids are adorable.

2freaky4church1 said:

is that Anne Coulter or whatever that annoying conservative bitch?

Martinelli said:

It's true. Nightly play with juicy mockney cock can change speech patterns.

RipHer2Shreds said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

Only if it gets lodged in ya throat.

SassyBritches said:

Hey!

2freaky4church1 said:

i bet they all read quite a lot, though.

more americans should try that.

DavidEye said:

wow, how sad that you even attempted that type of responce david....

and once again, just because people have an interest in her personal crap doesnt make it right.....damn dude, if we were discussing anyone else but madge you would have conceeded that point already....

but hey, back to your point..sure, madonna's voice, talent, music has always been sub-par thus forcing her to rely on "marketing" herself to gain exposure.....in the end, for me, as a music lover: im content with the music wendy and lisa made despite them never gaining a large audience..sure they could have worked the whole "queer" angle...sure they could have exploited their relationship...sure they could have dont a lot of shit to gain an audience...but they didnt..and in the end, its about the music...

too bad madonna forgot that lesson....

American Life anyone?

sosgemini said:

popcorn, anyone?

Anxiety said:

Gimme back my pancakes.