Thumparello said:

I'm glad you mentioned that... have you sampled a listen of any of this stuff yet?

I've heard some demos of earlier recordings. It's pretty hard, if it's the same tracks.

Thumparello said:

I hope so!
Also, I hope the new double CD is all emcompasing musically. I had really hoped for separate Parliament and Funkadelic releases akin to the 70's style. Musically it wouldn't been but to have them as separate entities would have been cool. But I'll take any new P-funk I can get!

It's a George Clinton presents project. Many artist are featured.

I found a track from the new record on myspace

not bad

http://www.myspace.com/gclinton

Meloh9 said:

can't get it to play!
What does it sound like?

Bfunkthe1 said:

it has a real catchy melody and it has a OutKast "Whole World" kinda feel,

Meloh9 said:

Sounds cool. Thanks for info Meloh9. Do you know title of song?

Sexy side of you, I never heard this track anywhere else, so I assume it is from the new album

Meloh9 said:

Yea I never heard of it either. If it's cool like you say, let's hope it's from How late Do U have 2BB4UR Absent.

If you have not listened to the first Funkadelic albums w/Eddie Hazel, then you can not make a fair comparison.


I personally dug Funkadelic by far over Parliament. Early Funkadelic(w/Eddie Hazel) and later Funkadelic(without Eddie Hazel) I see as two very different bands.

I'll go with funkadelic. I love the garage rock feel of the early albums, of course the funk or parliment can't be beat either. I love seeing them in concert. Sometimes you get the rock show with all the guitars, sometimes the funk with the horns and sometimes you get lucky and get both

Early P funk music was creative and well thought out. Later Parliament tunes got just stupid, heavily reling on the gimmicks, George started loving the sound of his own voice more than loving the music that made P funk "funky". Go buy the very early stuff by both acts and then compare to the later stuff, and you will see what I'm talking about.

jw1914 said:

we will just agree to disagree on that one

Meloh9 said:

I agree.
Remember, it's all Funk.

Bfunkthe1 said:

Exactly.

TheRealFiness said:

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He is out of his fucking mind. The sounds quality is poor on the Funkadelic disc but, so what the music is so kick ass.

jw1914 said:

When the real talented singers in the P Funk camp left (Fuzzy, Grady and Ray) Funkadelic's as well as Parliament's original sound suffered greatly. If you don't believe me listen to "The goose" off of the early Parliament album and "Cosmic Slop" off of the early Funkadelic album and then show me any later song by either act that can compare.

I beleive many of you have never heard any early stuff by ParliFunkadelicment Thang.

Go listen and then come back and comment.

You probably never heard Glenn Goins sing, who entered the mob in 1975.


When the real talented singers in the P Funk camp left (Fuzzy, Grady and Ray) Funkadelic's as well as Parliament's original sound suffered greatly.

.[/quote] I beleive many of you have never heard any early stuff by ParliFunkadelicment Thang.

You're right Glen did add a very special flavor to the camp. His sudden untimely death was truly a set back for P funk.
The music of Parliament and Funkadelic I still take very seriously because it was this group of folks that made the biggest impact in my own musical direction. I had been playing guitar for only two years when the very first Funkadelic album was released. When I say that I listened to Funkadelic, I listened to everything out that had to do with anything about Funkadelic. When I got out from school, the very first thing I did when I got up to my bedroom was to put on a Funkadelic album and pick up my guitar. So when I hears songs like "Freak of the Week" and "One Nation" it brings me to tears to hears how awfully sounding Funkadelic had become. Back in the day when Funkadelic would release a new album, every musician in every local band rushed out to buy it, so as to be the first to learn the riffs and be the first band to play Funkadelic's latest songs live. Cause in a Funkadelic song one could really 'strut their stuff'

this is a mindboggling question but If I have to make a choice I go with Parliament

But when George took on a more 'up front' role in the vocal writing for the camp, the songs became cartoonishly silly. No longer were the social issues of the time incorporated in the lyrical context of their music (ex."March to the Witch's Castle", "America Eats it's Young"), no George was too busy being "Knee Deep" in being an "Atomic Dogg".

Come on yall, "Aqua Boogie"? Dat sh*t just down right sucks.

jw1914 said:

Aha, thats what you mean
Musically their wasn't enough Eddie in the later stuff, not enough soul for my taste.
The other guitarplayers did not fill that gap for my in the studio.

Glenn was funking in heaven, so for me it went downhill in 78 with the passing of Glenn, the departure from Bootsy and Eddie as main members.
But they did still did some good stuff in the later years know and then

I remember seeing Funkadelic in the mid 70's on the same bill with Earth Wind and Fire, Buddy Miles and a couple of other bands, and Funkadelic opened up. They came on stage with the attitude that they knew that they did not have a "top ten" song on the radio at that time but they were going to make this crowd never forget them. They were truly the most outrageous band I had ever seen. Eddie wore a lampshade on his head, Gary wore his diaper, and they ripped philly a new a**hole!!! From that day forward Philly came out in droves to see Funkadelic. There was not 50 people on stage in a free for all jam session. Funkadelic back then came "well prepared" and threw down. In the later years P Funk shows became a joint smoking cult following gathering in much the same ways as The Greatful Dead concerts. "Let's get them as high as possible and maybe they won't notice that we forgot how to play this song"

I personally stop going to a P Funk show a long time ago, couldn't stomach it any longer.

jw1914 said:

You recorded that show?

Tosh said:

Naw, back then small portable recorders was still as big as a shoebox, and I didn't realize that I was viewing something that I would never view again. We felt true funk would last forever. I was wrong!

jw1914 said:

It's really all just a matter of personal taste, George and the gang had something for everybody. What you may see as silly, others may see as conceptual genius. This music predated the era of music video and George Clinton’s wild imagination gave life to his album covers, characters and the over all concept of P Funk, that it was indeed a concept and not just a sound. The Motor Booty Affair album was P Funk's take on Disco and should be judged on it's own terms. They wanted to show that with a little creativity that a disco album could still be funky and creative. It was meant to be the soundtrack to a full length animated feature film but that never fell trough. Also it is a little known fact that Eddie Hazel had more to do with Motor Booty Affairs song writing than he was credited for.

We seem to be forgetting that Parliament was never meant to have a gritty sound. Parliaments whole intent was to have hit records every since George recorded singles under The Parliaments for various labels. The albums Osmium and Up for the Downstroke may indeed sound closer to early Funkadelic. And I will acknowledge the fact that Funkadelic became more commercial after signing to Warners. However One Nation under a groove still stays true to the black rock movement of the time with the live version of Maggot Brain and Who Says A Funk Band Can't Play Rock Music, and Lunchmeataphobia? I think One Nation is a great album. It is just a matter of personal taste weather you enjoy the early Funkadelic albums (which I really have a thing for because of Eddie) or you dig the later more popular Parliament albums. I personally find myself in awe of the whole P Funk experience.

You're right Meloh9, it is a matter of personal taste. You have your pigfeet sandwich and I'll stick to my surf&turf. It's all good?

jw1914 said:

I got a thang, you got a thang, everybodys got a thang

Maybe if a price tag of the musical works would equate the quality of those works, some of us just might go out and buy it like the $1500.00 26"rims we put on our cars, or the $150.00 sneakers we put on our feet. But since most cd's old and new can be purchased for under $20.00 few of us will ever appreciate the quality that went into making that old album.
Trust me on this if music was unable to be duplicated and Hendrix cd's went for $1000.00 each, every wannabe thug would be blasting the sounds of Hendrix out of their phat rides just to flash their cheese.