"The Velvet Rope" was an...experience, I'd say. Kind of like Marvin Gaye's "What's Going On". I only listen to it when I'm in a *mood*. It's not for every day.

VoicesCarry said:

I would love to hear how Janet sounded on "I'm A Slave 4 U" (To those not in-the-know the Neptunes presented this song to Janet first, but she turned it down, they later gave it to Britney). AFY would've been bumpin' if "Slave 4 U" was on it.

That probably would've been one of my top Janet songs of all time had it made the tracklisting.

JANFAN4L said:

I know she originally cut "Boys" with the Neptunes...are you confusing that with "I'm A Slave 4 U"? I wasn't aware she'd even touched that song.

VoicesCarry said:

On the Xone, "Slave 4 U" was mentioned by a few prolific Janet fans around late last year. And I've heard it talked up since 2001.

JANFAN4L said:

Maybe she was offered it, but I can understand why she turned it down and also didn't release "Boys". The Neptunes don't really write songs for 35-year-old women well

All the people look at me like I'm a little girl....

Um, no.

well no wonder i liked those 2 cuts

VoicesCarry said:

Janet is little in height! But she is all woman!!

I wish Janet would give The Neptunes a fair moment to help her out.

And I wish Britney would drop the trailer park trash-attitude and get back with The Neptunes so she can be taken seriously again.

TonyVanDam said:

Britney was taken seriously - when the hell was that?!?!

VoicesCarryFurther said:

Well, I only took her seriously because of 2 songs:

Baby One More Time
Slave 4 U

TonyVanDam said:

Since when did people took Britney "seriously"?

VoicesCarry said:

Welp, songs are altered to suit a particular artist. The groove of S4U was probably presented to her along with some lyrics. She might've even laid some vocals down on it. All in all, I'm not sure Janet, as an African-American woman, considering her ancestry, would sing "I'm A Slave" for ANYBODY.

TonyVanDam said:

Britney was taken seriously with the Neptunes? Err? But I digress.

Honestly, The Neptunes' sound is played. Janet not need touch that.

What about "?uestlove"?

He could do a little somethin' with her.

JANFAN4L said:

You do realize you've just given R. Kelly the idea for his next video.

Anywayz, I know she didn't lay down a vocal track. But she did record "Boys", and I'd love to hear her version!

Okay fans what about this....

janet is all wbout pushing buttons, raw sexuality and being funky....

so besides her current album, who encompassess all these things, who is a singer, songerwriter, musician.?????

dont ya think meshell could give her that sound without it sounding juvenille???

discuss

namepeace said:

Novel idea, namepeace. She did work with JayDee from Slum Village. So ya never know.

I wanna hear Janet on a 9th Wonder (Little Brother) beat.

JANFAN4L said:

It seems as if she could use a more "organic" sound.

JANFAN4L said:

...and sometimes the Jam/Lewis production sound isn't played???

Seriously, The Neptunes can do it all (hip-hop/r&b, funk, rock, etc.) They're almost the Jam/Lewis of their generation, IMHO. And the only thing missing is a "Janet" of their own.

And since Britney couldn't do it after one song, then I say The Neptunes should help out THE real Janet! My opinion of course.

Think about it!

TonyVanDam said:

Jam & Lewis sound isn't played because they have a diverse pallette of sounds to choose from - they know their music, and they also know how to write songs without sampling. Every fucking Neptunes piece of crap sounds the same, sorry. That's why they're still stuck in 2001, when they were at their peak. If they were gonna work with Janet, I say it mighta been good in '01, but not now.
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TonyVanDam said:

You concoct an interesting view, but Jam & Lewis are legendary. Their sound is initimitable and they have a wide-ranging palette from which it's crafted. J&L can turn around one time and hit you upside the head with some modern, pristine jazz (Alexander O'Neal, Herb Alpert), flip and do new jack swing (the Mo' Money SDTK), kill a slow jam (Human League, Mint Condition), trip out on some post-Minneapolis Funk (Gwen Stefani's "Harajuku Girls"), etc. They aren't defined by a particular approach.

Neptunes are all start-stop beats. Sparse, machine-pumped soul loops. Garage-y rock beats, etc. They just slowly moved away from the "OoO, OoO" sound about a year and half ago. Plus, I said it before. Their work is largely flavor-of-the-moment and not timeless. The Neptunes are like Chinese Food, you hear their track the first moment and you're, "WHOA, this is my s**t" then after repetitious spins, it wears off and you're left craving something more.

The 'Tunes reached their creative/artistic peak with 2002's "In Search Of..." Mostly everything they've done since then has been anticlimatic.

VoicesCarry said:

I love "Moist", but I hate "Warmth".

JANFAN4L said:

I agree with almost everything you just said.

Another huge advantage that Jam/Lewis have over The Neptunes is that Jam/Lewis were better in a live performance (Read: The Time). As for music production, Jam/Lewis are so going to the R&R HOF anytime now (if they not their already).

The Neptunes could never get it together on the live stage. They're very good (IMHO) in the production studio, but below average on stage. Therefore, I can support them for staying in the studio more!

If they ever work with Janet, they can't think like "The Neptune" and dish out just another hip-hop/r&b top 10 hit. The need to think like "N.E.R.D." and go for something different. Just go for the funk!
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