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Reply #30 posted 07/12/05 7:22am

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Ace said:

AnckSuNamun said:



Well at least they acknowledged him smile I'm not familiar with the singer they toured with. I wasn't really interested to be honest.

The funny thing is, I was never an INXS fan, but I find the show compelling.


hmmm that's probably why. Most INXS fans I know are refusing to watch it giggle
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Reply #31 posted 07/12/05 7:24am

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Other convenient revisionist history for this show:

They make it appear that Hutchence died while the band was still very successful. In reality, they were already in serious decline (some might say "freefall").



Very true
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Reply #32 posted 07/12/05 7:24am

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Other convenient revisionist history for this show:

They make it appear that Hutchence died while the band was still very successful. In reality, they were already in serious decline (some might say "freefall").


lol true
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Reply #33 posted 07/12/05 7:29am

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They also showed them arriving in a private jet with the INXS logo on it. Unless they invested very well, there's no way they could own that plane at this point. Seems like the show has really invested an effort in making it appear this is the gig of a lifetime. lol
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Reply #34 posted 07/12/05 8:00am

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AnckSuNamun said:

Did they say anything about Michael Hutchence anytime during the show? And are any of the contestants even familar with INXS or are they just trying to get their 15 minutes?

Yes, they had a whole segment about Hutchence at the beginning of the show and repeatedly talked about how hard it would be to fill his shoes. And all of the contestants seem to be very familiar with the band.

Incidentally, INXS has toured since his death with another lead singer (a fact that was conveniently omitted from their biography on the show).

nod I was like why the fuck did they not acknowledge TTD/Sanada.They toured with him extensively. That was some racist bullshit to me.
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Reply #35 posted 07/12/05 8:07am

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Yes, they had a whole segment about Hutchence at the beginning of the show and repeatedly talked about how hard it would be to fill his shoes. And all of the contestants seem to be very familiar with the band.

Incidentally, INXS has toured since his death with another lead singer (a fact that was conveniently omitted from their biography on the show).

nod I was like why the fuck did they not acknowledge TTD/Sanada.They toured with him extensively. That was some racist bullshit to me.

No, they didn't acknowledge the other singer, either, and he was a white dude.
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Reply #36 posted 07/12/05 8:48am

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nod I was like why the fuck did they not acknowledge TTD/Sanada.They toured with him extensively. That was some racist bullshit to me.

No, they didn't acknowledge the other singer, either, and he was a white dude.

True.
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Reply #37 posted 07/12/05 11:02am

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I loved INXS's older material. Micheal was one of the greatest frontman. Great combo of Jagger and Morrison with his own little thing. INXS were funky too, in a CHIC like way. At first, I didn't dig the idea of this show. But, since they're doing it, I'm rooting for the brother with the mohawk. Very sterotypical of him to be singing "Cult Of Personality" though. Rather see him sing some other shit, mainly cuz he looks like he should have been in Living Colour.
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Reply #38 posted 07/12/05 11:05am

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I loved INXS's older material. Micheal was one of the greatest frontman. Great combo of Jagger and Morrison with his own little thing. INXS were funky too, in a CHIC like way. At first, I didn't dig the idea of this show. But, since they're doing it, I'm rooting for the brother with the mohawk. Very sterotypical of him to be singing "Cult Of Personality" though. Rather see him sing some other shit, mainly cuz he looks like he should have been in Living Colour.

nod I definitely agree with you that cat with the Mohawk was cold. He really had some pipes on him BG Baby. I think he's from LA.
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Reply #39 posted 07/12/05 11:21am

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Very sterotypical of him to be singing "Cult Of Personality" though.

My thoughts exactly.
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Reply #40 posted 07/12/05 11:29am

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'Rock Star' doesn't roll for CBS in ratings By Cynthia Littleton
9 minutes ago


LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - CBS' "Rock Star: INXS" didn't exactly debut to a stadium-sized audience on Monday, a moribund night overall for the Big Four broadcast networks.
The reality series revolving around Australian rock band INXS' search for a new lead singer to replace dead frontman Michael Hutchence opened to 5.6 million viewers and 2.4 rating/7 share in the adults 18-49 demographic, according to preliminary estimates from Nielsen Media Research.

"Rock Star" came in second to the culinary star of Fox's competing summer entry, "Hell's Kitchen" (6.5 million, 3.2/9), but its numbers were moving in the right direction at the 9:30 p.m. half-hour mark, when "Rock Star's" 18-49 demo score climbed to 2.6 from a 2.2 in the first half. At the same time, "Rock Star" lost significant ground in viewers from its 8:30 p.m. lead-in, a repeat of comedy "Two and a Half Men" (7.7 million, 2.1/7).

CBS capped the night with a 10 p.m. encore of "CSI: Miami" (7.7 million, 2.5/7) that was also off its game, even by repeat standards.

ABC had little traction for the night with its combo of "The Scholar" and theatrical "Meet the Parents." The same was true for NBC's repeat lineup of "Fear Factor," "Las Vegas" and "Medium."

Thanks to "Hell's Kitchen," Fox took the night in adults 18-49 (3.0/9) while CBS ranked No. 1 in viewers (7.1 million).

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Reply #41 posted 07/12/05 11:38am

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"Rock Star" came in second to the culinary star of Fox's competing summer entry, "Hell's Kitchen"

CBS "fine-tunes" 'Rock Star' By Gregory Buffer
10 minutes ago.

LOS ANGELES (AP) - CBS has announced that, in an effort to boost "Rock Star: INXS's" ratings, next week's episode will focus on the band's cursing, surly chef, Vincenzo.
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Reply #42 posted 07/12/05 11:39am

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Ace said:

purplegypsy said:

"Rock Star" came in second to the culinary star of Fox's competing summer entry, "Hell's Kitchen"

CBS "fine-tunes" 'Rock Star' By Gregory Buffer
10 minutes ago.

LOS ANGELES (AP) - CBS has announced that, in an effort to boost "Rock Star: INXS's" ratings, next week's episode will focus on the band's cursing, surly chef, Vincenzo.


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Reply #43 posted 07/12/05 2:40pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

Ace said:

Other convenient revisionist history for this show:

They make it appear that Hutchence died while the band was still very successful. In reality, they were already in serious decline (some might say "freefall").


lol true


So what.The music was still good.All I could take was that horrible girl buthering "Piece of my heart,and then turned it off for ggod.Hopefully it get's cancelled in a few weeks.
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Reply #44 posted 07/12/05 3:56pm

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Ace said:

purplegypsy said:

"Rock Star" came in second to the culinary star of Fox's competing summer entry, "Hell's Kitchen"

CBS "fine-tunes" 'Rock Star' By Gregory Buffer
10 minutes ago.

LOS ANGELES (AP) - CBS has announced that, in an effort to boost "Rock Star: INXS's" ratings, next week's episode will focus on the band's cursing, surly chef, Vincenzo.


is that for real? lol
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Reply #45 posted 07/12/05 5:53pm

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Disgusting

nod Agreed. As a Inxs fan, I felt this show was a slap in the face towards Micheal Hutchenson and his legacy. I only watched alittle bit of the shit and turned the son of a bitch off. There were only a few decent singers on there and the rest was shitty.


Yeah, I'm a little bummed about it, too. I haven't seen the show, and I love Dave Navarro. But for me Michael Hutchence was INXS. It's just difficult for me to see the band being reduced to a reality show to spark interest or make money???
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Reply #46 posted 07/12/05 6:42pm

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rocknrolldave said:
I agree that it is impossible to replace a vital member, such as a frontman...But I am interested to know what poeple think are the other options available.

Obviously, a band could just quit...but what if you are a musician and playing is your whole life, everything you ever wanted to do..? So your friend and colleague dies..should you give up too and leave behind all the great music you have looked forward to continuing to play? Or are there other ways to keep this alive, other than just "out with the old guy, in with the new?"


Examples:
Joy Division: Ian Curtis commits suicide, remaining members continue as a group but under a new name (New Order)

Led Zeppelin: Group ends with the death of John Bonham, Page and Plant later work together on new material and radically different versions of Zep material.



Or can a new singer work..? how about Brian Johnson with AC/DC after Bon Scott's death..?


I mentioned this in another thread, but when Zach de la Rocha left Rage Against The Machine, and the remaining members recruited Chris Cornell, formerly of Soundgarden, they were wise to give the band a new name (Audioslave) and sound. It's rare for a band to lose their frontman and be able to go on successfully without him/her. It may have worked for Van Halen with Sammy Hagar, but it worked only marginally for Chicago without Peter Cetera. But it did not work for 10,000 Maniacs, it didn't really work for the Commodores without Lionel Richie, and it nearly destroyed Fleetwood Mac when both Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham went on hiatus.

Ace said:
Other convenient revisionist history for this show:

They make it appear that Hutchence died while the band was still very successful. In reality, they were already in serious decline (some might say "freefall").


I don't know how popular INXS was in their home country of Australia prior to Michael Hutchence's death, but their popularity had already waned precipitously in the USA by that time. They released the album "Elegantly Wasted" in 1996, but I believe that it didn't even sell 75,000 copies here in the states.

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Reply #47 posted 07/12/05 10:30pm

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I know one thing - that backing band on the show is TIGHT - especially the lead guitarist wink

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Reply #48 posted 07/12/05 11:39pm

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I know one thing - that backing band on the show is TIGHT - especially the lead guitarist wink

nod Hell Yeah!
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Reply #49 posted 07/13/05 5:00am

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728huey said:

rocknrolldave said:
I agree that it is impossible to replace a vital member, such as a frontman...But I am interested to know what poeple think are the other options available.

Obviously, a band could just quit...but what if you are a musician and playing is your whole life, everything you ever wanted to do..? So your friend and colleague dies..should you give up too and leave behind all the great music you have looked forward to continuing to play? Or are there other ways to keep this alive, other than just "out with the old guy, in with the new?"


Examples:
Joy Division: Ian Curtis commits suicide, remaining members continue as a group but under a new name (New Order)

Led Zeppelin: Group ends with the death of John Bonham, Page and Plant later work together on new material and radically different versions of Zep material.



Or can a new singer work..? how about Brian Johnson with AC/DC after Bon Scott's death..?


I mentioned this in another thread, but when Zach de la Rocha left Rage Against The Machine, and the remaining members recruited Chris Cornell, formerly of Soundgarden, they were wise to give the band a new name (Audioslave) and sound. It's rare for a band to lose their frontman and be able to go on successfully without him/her. It may have worked for Van Halen with Sammy Hagar, but it worked only marginally for Chicago without Peter Cetera. But it did not work for 10,000 Maniacs, it didn't really work for the Commodores without Lionel Richie, and it nearly destroyed Fleetwood Mac when both Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham went on hiatus.

Ace said:
Other convenient revisionist history for this show:

They make it appear that Hutchence died while the band was still very successful. In reality, they were already in serious decline (some might say "freefall").


I don't know how popular INXS was in their home country of Australia prior to Michael Hutchence's death, but their popularity had already waned precipitously in the USA by that time. They released the album "Elegantly Wasted" in 1996, but I believe that it didn't even sell 75,000 copies here in the states.

typing


This is off-topic, but I was (am) a HUGE Rage Against the Machine fan. I haven't really been able to get into Audioslave though. I think that I'm just being resistant to change!! lol Zach de la Rocha hasn't done much though, well at least not much that I've heard about. sad
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Reply #50 posted 07/13/05 5:08am

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Isel said:

728huey said:

rocknrolldave said:

I don't know how popular INXS was in their home country of Australia prior to Michael Hutchence's death, but their popularity had already waned precipitously in the USA by that time. They released the album "Elegantly Wasted" in 1996, but I believe that it didn't even sell 75,000 copies here in the states.

typing


This is off-topic, but I was (am) a HUGE Rage Against the Machine fan. I haven't really been able to get into Audioslave though. I think that I'm just being resistant to change!! lol Zach de la Rocha hasn't done much though, well at least not much that I've heard about. sad


it must be Chris Cornell's vocals.
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Reply #51 posted 07/13/05 5:10am

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728huey said:

rocknrolldave said:
I agree that it is impossible to replace a vital member, such as a frontman...But I am interested to know what poeple think are the other options available.

Obviously, a band could just quit...but what if you are a musician and playing is your whole life, everything you ever wanted to do..? So your friend and colleague dies..should you give up too and leave behind all the great music you have looked forward to continuing to play? Or are there other ways to keep this alive, other than just "out with the old guy, in with the new?"


Examples:
Joy Division: Ian Curtis commits suicide, remaining members continue as a group but under a new name (New Order)

Led Zeppelin: Group ends with the death of John Bonham, Page and Plant later work together on new material and radically different versions of Zep material.



Or can a new singer work..? how about Brian Johnson with AC/DC after Bon Scott's death..?


I mentioned this in another thread, but when Zach de la Rocha left Rage Against The Machine, and the remaining members recruited Chris Cornell, formerly of Soundgarden, they were wise to give the band a new name (Audioslave) and sound.

typing

Audioslave aren't legally allowed to play Soundgarden or RATM songs are they? Because they sure as hell played them at Live 8.
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Reply #52 posted 07/13/05 5:32am

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AnckSuNamun said:

728huey said:

rocknrolldave said:

I mentioned this in another thread, but when Zach de la Rocha left Rage Against The Machine, and the remaining members recruited Chris Cornell, formerly of Soundgarden, they were wise to give the band a new name (Audioslave) and sound.

typing

Audioslave aren't legally allowed to play Soundgarden or RATM songs are they? Because they sure as hell played them at Live 8.


Why wouldn't they be allowed..? They helped to write the songs, they will be credited with the publishing, why would it be illegal for them to play them..?
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Reply #53 posted 07/13/05 5:49am

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Not the greatest show...this is for sure...but, I am watchin only because one of the participants is from my area here....I think he is doin a great job too...nod


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Reply #54 posted 07/13/05 5:56am

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rocknrolldave said:

AnckSuNamun said:


Audioslave aren't legally allowed to play Soundgarden or RATM songs are they? Because they sure as hell played them at Live 8.


Why wouldn't they be allowed..? They helped to write the songs, they will be credited with the publishing, why would it be illegal for them to play them..?


everything is so technical in the music industry these days, so I wouldn't be suprised if it was illegal to do that.
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Reply #55 posted 07/13/05 6:42am

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AnckSuNamun said:

rocknrolldave said:



Why wouldn't they be allowed..? They helped to write the songs, they will be credited with the publishing, why would it be illegal for them to play them..?


everything is so technical in the music industry these days, so I wouldn't be suprised if it was illegal to do that.

Not illegal in the slightest bit (as long as the royalties are paid).
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Reply #56 posted 07/13/05 6:43am

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CBS "fine-tunes" 'Rock Star' By Gregory Buffer
10 minutes ago.

LOS ANGELES (AP) - CBS has announced that, in an effort to boost "Rock Star: INXS's" ratings, next week's episode will focus on the band's cursing, surly chef, Vincenzo.


is that for real? lol

Nah. Made it up. lol
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Reply #57 posted 07/13/05 6:44am

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What this show needs is a snappy slogan. May I suggest "ROCK STAR: INXS - Where rock hags go to die"?
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Reply #58 posted 07/13/05 6:51am

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AnckSuNamun said:



everything is so technical in the music industry these days, so I wouldn't be suprised if it was illegal to do that.

Not illegal in the slightest bit (as long as the royalties are paid).


I thought so. I didn't mean truely illegal. I guess I should've mentioned royalties.
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