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Interesting Read: Jaguar on Ashanti, Mary, R.Kelly

Are there any current artists you listen to?

I always go back to the roots. There are some new ones I like but to be very honest with you, I'm very disappointed with my generation and what we're doing with music. Listen to the songs that are being made and put out on the radio. Who's gonna remake the ‘Whisper Song’ twenty years from now? Who’s gonna remake ‘Oh’? Who’s gonna remake any of the Usher ballads? These are not songs we can carry with us throughout the generation. We’re cheating our children. I’m giving the next generation their rite to passage that was given to me. That’s my job. It’s a grave responsibility to be an artist. There’s a huge responsibility that comes along with it. We’re cheating them out of their history by not doing it.


Is your 12 year old showing an interest in music as far as performing or just listening even?


I was shocked when he knew all the lyrics to T.I.’s songs. Which is when I got really scared because they was playing that damn ‘Whisper Song’ at three o’clock in the afternoon when my son comes home. I don’t want my son going to school talking bout ‘wait till you see my dick.’ There’s nothing cute about that.
There’s nothing cute about Ciara sittin’ there humpin’ on a car like a deranged Chihuahua. I liked that lil’ girl (Ciara) until I saw her humpin’ on that car. And it’s not like it made me not like her. My heart went out to her. What happens when you grow up and your children watch you sitting there pounding away on that car? Now Ludacris stood up there looking like a man, lookin’ like he had some common sense and you in the back gyrating like a crazy monkey on the top of a car.



There’s other little girls who are watching her who use her a role model, who wanna be like her. What happens when one of them pull that out in the street and the local pedophile is sitting there watching them waiting to catch them at night. No responsibility at all! And what is that saying about our young music generation? Crawling around on your knees. Get the hell up, get some Vaseline and clean that shit up, you gettin’ ashy. Get up!


Has anyone ever approached you in your career and asked you to do sexually suggestive video?


I wish someone would tell me ‘Yeah Jag, we gonna make this video and we want you to stand in the middle of the street and strip down to your draws and then take a bottle and hold it between your thighs.’ I will punch somebody in they mouth! It’s tacky. If I’m gonna get naked it, it’s gonna make sense. I believe in art, I don’t believe in trash. Grace Jones can get naked anytime she wants. I love it. But it’s art. There is a purpose, its about empowerment. I can respect Madonna. I can respect Tweet for her new video. It was beautiful. But she wasn’t sitting there pumpin on no car. There’s a way of doing things. There’s nothing wrong with sexual freedom and sexual expression. We are sexual beings. But we’re not trash cans. Whatever happened to being a gorgeous beautiful woman? You know what I mean? What ever happened to “I can show it to you but you can’t touch it until I say so.” Whatever happened to that? Who’s teaching these little crazy ass kids that?



Maybe it’s about the marketing. For instance, you’ve heard the whole R. Kelly saga I’m sure?

Oh Jesus



[laughs] The marketing of that has really got people caught up. I was like...ok, I have to hear the next part and the next part and so on.


When I first heard it I thought I would be more excited about listening to the next part and I really wasn’t. Number one, you’re a married man right writing a song about going to the clubs cheating on your girlfriend with some woman you barely know and you’re having sex with her obviously on the first night you met her. There’s nothing cute about that, that you’re that trifling. That you went into this with a clear mind, you laid up in somebodies house and you don’t know what kind of danger is coming for you. What kind of man is that? Furthermore, now you running around with a gun. What are you telling children? Then the man supposed to be the minister is sleeping with another man. Now you’re mocking the church.




Do you think that was his intention or he had some other motivation?


I have no idea. All it sounds like is you done lost your fucking mind! And he’s talented. I’m not taking anything away from that cause you know what, he sang his ass off in that song. But that’s all you got to talk about? Is cheating on your wife with a woman who’s obviously married to a gay man and she didn’t know and yall both finding out about the same time and you got a gun and you sitting up here in a place you don’t know and you just running around having sex sticking your dick in anything and everything. There’s nothing to glorify about that. It’s disgusting because the saddest part is that you don’t even realize that you’re dehumanizing yourself. You’re desensitizing yourself. And your humanity. And once we start losing our humanity what’s the difference between us and the animals?


Is there any truth to the rumor that you had a fight with a fan on a rooftop when you were pregnant?


I was nowhere near pregnant and they were not a fan. They were calling me a n*gger b*tch. Me and The Roots had a concert at MIT and a runner had taken us to the store to pick up a few things. I’m gonna tell you the story so you can get it right. We get out of the car with the runner and we’re headed back to the bus and I hear these drunk white boys hollering off the roof and I’m like uh college boys having a good time, no big deal. ‘What’s up homie. What’s up my nigga’ Ok so I look up and I’m like nah, they not talking to me. ‘You don’t hear me n*gger?’ I’m like ok, they gettin’ real free wit it and I looked up and said "I know you not talking to me" and they said ‘Yeah I’m talking to you, you n*gger b*tch’. I’m from North Philly, them fighting words. So I dropped everything I had in my hands and ran into the building. There was a kitchen there. Picked up the first thing I could find, a big metal serving spoon. Ran clean up without breaking stride nine floors. Came up on the roof and said "Who the fuck said it? Who said it? Was it you?!" Now mind you, it was just lil’ ole me and about twenty white boys, five white girls, and a token Asian look like he was part Samoan. So I’m like "Who said it? Who said it?" And then here comes my brother Black Thought (The Roots) cause he wasn’t gonna leave me up there on that roof alone. God bless his heart. Next thing you know people started swinging beer bottles and next thing you know somebody snatched a beer outta somebody hand and we had at it. We got jumped by fourteen frat boys on a roof. They got a surveillance picture of me banging somebody over the back of their neck with that serving spoon.



[laughs]



[laughs] Damn right! Call me a n*gger b*tch, I’mma hurt you. Especially when I gave you a chance to clean it up. It went from n*gger to n*gger b*tch real fast. Now see, I could have lived with the “n*gger” but when you put the b*tch behind it, I gotta whip your ass! And I lumped up the back of his neck too. Me and Black Thought. The funniest thing about it is here comes the runner running up on the roof ‘Stop it! You’re fighting the Roots!’ [laughs] and then everybody backs up cause we were there for a concert that night. Like aw shit. The whole fraternity was banned. They had to shut the fraternity down. They had to do a line up. We had to pick 'em out and all that nonsense. Tell you one thing. Every time they hear my voice, they’ll remember, you respect the black woman. That’s gonna stick in their minds. So yeah, that wasn’t a fan. No fan of mine calling me a n*gger b*tch.


There was a rumor you said some negative things about Mary J. Blige, Faith Evans and Ashanti and that you didn’t like them etc.

What’s negative about it? Mary J. Blige doesn’t like me.


Why doesn’t she like you?


I have no idea. The woman does not like me and it’s just like ok, alright well. The hell with her then. You ain’t gotta like me. That’s the thing I don’t understand about women in this business.


And Faith Evans particularly, I like Faith. I think Faith is ridiculous! I’ve always thought she was ridiculous. I ain’t got nothing against Faith. Mary J. Blige maybe I do because I don’t like nobody that don’t like me for absolutely no reason at all. I never spit on that girl. I never stole her boyfriend. I never stole no publishing. I didn’t do nothing to that woman. I mean she just don’t like me. So if we gonna talk about some rumors, lets start a new one. Mary J Blige doesn’t like me! I don’t like nobody that don’t like me.”


Ashanti? What can I say bad about her? She’s a cute girl. She holds a little tune but she’s not a real singer. You’re not gonna sit up there and make me have more respect for her than what she deserves. She can’t stand on the same stage with India.Arie. She can’t stand on the same stage with me. She can’t do it. I didn’t do that to her. That’s who she is. I’m not lying and I don’t have anything against these people. I’m happy for every black woman that doesn’t have to be on welfare.

The full interview can be read @ http://honeysoul.com/jaginterview.htm
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #1 posted 07/11/05 2:54pm

k7i2m3

lol i was just about to post this. i can agree with a lot of what she says. i really don't see todays music, or at least what gets airplay, standing the test of time. however i bought her first cd and thought it sucked. she has a beautiful voice though
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Reply #2 posted 07/11/05 2:57pm

VoicesCarry

Jag, honey, come to prince.org. We will treat you well. We like what you say.
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Reply #3 posted 07/11/05 7:22pm

cranshaw62

Wait, hold it.

Grace Jones can NOT get naked anytime she wants. I love the song "Nipple To The Bottle" but let us restrict the nudity of Grace Jones please.
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Reply #4 posted 07/11/05 7:59pm

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Jaguar is marriage material. love
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Reply #5 posted 07/11/05 9:00pm

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Bravo for Ms Wright. I already like her thanks to this interview. I need to check out her new CD.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #6 posted 07/11/05 11:34pm

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Jaguar is GANGSTA!!!!! and she can SANG too!!!!
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
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Reply #7 posted 07/12/05 12:40am

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I really like what Jaguar has to say. But it would be a lot more convincing if she'd learn to speak more articulately.
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Reply #8 posted 07/12/05 7:08am

Rhondab

shrug
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Reply #9 posted 07/12/05 8:49am

Hotlegs

Rhondab said:

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Co-sign sistergirl!
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Reply #10 posted 07/12/05 8:54am

Harlepolis

Here's the whole interview:

http://www.prince.org/msg/8/152730
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Reply #11 posted 07/12/05 9:51am

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I love the chick, but she's being hypocritical when she says Ciara shouldn't gyrate on top of a car because if she has kids they may see it, yet SHE cusses up a storm on her 1st CD and even mentions on her "shout-outs" section on her CD to the grandparents of her child that they will NEVER see him. How foul is that? But THEN, why does HER SON know ALL of the words to The Whisper Song since she's so worried about Ciara's future kids looking at Ciara humping cars?

And why is she cool with being called 'nigger' but 'nigger bitch' is fightin' words? She's all fucked up in the head.
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Reply #12 posted 07/12/05 10:53am

Hotlegs

TheCrucialExperience said:

I love the chick, but she's being hypocritical when she says Ciara shouldn't gyrate on top of a car because if she has kids they may see it, yet SHE cusses up a storm on her 1st CD and even mentions on her "shout-outs" section on her CD to the grandparents of her child that they will NEVER see him. How foul is that? But THEN, why does HER SON know ALL of the words to The Whisper Song since she's so worried about Ciara's future kids looking at Ciara humping cars?

And why is she cool with being called 'nigger' but 'nigger bitch' is fightin' words? She's all fucked up in the head.
[Edited 7/12/05 9:52am]

Futhermore, I saw one of her videos for her old albums and her bare pregnant belly is sticking out of her blouse. If anything, I think she is a hypocrite and a little touched b/c she does curse up a storm on that first album.
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Reply #13 posted 07/12/05 11:48am

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Hotlegs said:

TheCrucialExperience said:

I love the chick, but she's being hypocritical when she says Ciara shouldn't gyrate on top of a car because if she has kids they may see it, yet SHE cusses up a storm on her 1st CD and even mentions on her "shout-outs" section on her CD to the grandparents of her child that they will NEVER see him. How foul is that? But THEN, why does HER SON know ALL of the words to The Whisper Song since she's so worried about Ciara's future kids looking at Ciara humping cars?

And why is she cool with being called 'nigger' but 'nigger bitch' is fightin' words? She's all fucked up in the head.
[Edited 7/12/05 9:52am]

Futhermore, I saw one of her videos for her old albums and her bare pregnant belly is sticking out of her blouse. If anything, I think she is a hypocrite and a little touched b/c she does curse up a storm on that first album.
[Edited 7/12/05 11:02am]



damn, thats messed up..i still think this is funny tho

There’s nothing cute about Ciara sittin’ there humpin’ on a car like a deranged Chihuahua. I liked that lil’ girl (Ciara) until I saw her humpin’ on that car. And it’s not like it made me not like her. My heart went out to her. What happens when you grow up and your children watch you sitting there pounding away on that car? Now Ludacris stood up there looking like a man, lookin’ like he had some common sense and you in the back gyrating like a crazy monkey on the top of a car.
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Reply #14 posted 07/12/05 7:25pm

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Hotlegs said:

TheCrucialExperience said:

I love the chick, but she's being hypocritical when she says Ciara shouldn't gyrate on top of a car because if she has kids they may see it, yet SHE cusses up a storm on her 1st CD and even mentions on her "shout-outs" section on her CD to the grandparents of her child that they will NEVER see him. How foul is that? But THEN, why does HER SON know ALL of the words to The Whisper Song since she's so worried about Ciara's future kids looking at Ciara humping cars?

And why is she cool with being called 'nigger' but 'nigger bitch' is fightin' words? She's all fucked up in the head.
[Edited 7/12/05 9:52am]

Futhermore, I saw one of her videos for her old albums and her bare pregnant belly is sticking out of her blouse. If anything, I think she is a hypocrite and a little touched b/c she does curse up a storm on that first album.


[Edited 7/12/05 11:02am]






I thought the bare pregnant belly shot at the end of "The what if's" video was pretty gangsta...it came unexpected,I don't think she was trying to be a deranged chihuahua when she pulled that stunt. I will agree though some of her views can be contradictory,we live in a world full of contradictions,but it's alright just learn to seperate the news from the nonsense.
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
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Reply #15 posted 07/12/05 7:46pm

RipHer2Shreds

Who's Jaguar, and why should I listen to anything she has to say?
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Reply #16 posted 07/13/05 12:31pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

Who's Jaguar, and why should I listen to anything she has to say?



a. She's a damn good singer.
b. You don't. It was an interview where she was asked her opinions and she stated them. She didn't ask for a cheerleading section or an audience for her social views.
Her singing voice is great, though.
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Reply #17 posted 07/13/05 12:32pm

Hotlegs

boriquateddy said:

Hotlegs said:


Futhermore, I saw one of her videos for her old albums and her bare pregnant belly is sticking out of her blouse. If anything, I think she is a hypocrite and a little touched b/c she does curse up a storm on that first album.


[Edited 7/12/05 11:02am]






I thought the bare pregnant belly shot at the end of "The what if's" video was pretty gangsta...it came unexpected,I don't think she was trying to be a deranged chihuahua when she pulled that stunt. I will agree though some of her views can be contradictory,we live in a world full of contradictions,but it's alright just learn to seperate the news from the nonsense.

nod True .
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Reply #18 posted 07/13/05 1:38pm

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GrayKing said:

I really like what Jaguar has to say. But it would be a lot more convincing if she'd learn to speak more articulately.
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Maybe you can hunt her down and the two of you can discuss it . I bet the discussion would put you in the same situation as those dumbass frat boys.
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Reply #19 posted 07/13/05 1:42pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

Hotlegs said:


Futhermore, I saw one of her videos for her old albums and her bare pregnant belly is sticking out of her blouse. If anything, I think she is a hypocrite and a little touched b/c she does curse up a storm on that first album.
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damn, thats messed up..i still think this is funny tho

There’s nothing cute about Ciara sittin’ there humpin’ on a car like a deranged Chihuahua. I liked that lil’ girl (Ciara) until I saw her humpin’ on that car. And it’s not like it made me not like her. My heart went out to her. What happens when you grow up and your children watch you sitting there pounding away on that car? Now Ludacris stood up there looking like a man, lookin’ like he had some common sense and you in the back gyrating like a crazy monkey on the top of a car.

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I know Prince fans are not complaining about foul language. I don't care for the cussing on Jaugar's first CD but, she is not jumping around like a damm monkey like Ciara going on about her Goodies.

Any woman that is asked to do this shit needs to smack down the director.
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Reply #20 posted 07/13/05 1:51pm

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laurarichardson said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:




damn, thats messed up..i still think this is funny tho

There’s nothing cute about Ciara sittin’ there humpin’ on a car like a deranged Chihuahua. I liked that lil’ girl (Ciara) until I saw her humpin’ on that car. And it’s not like it made me not like her. My heart went out to her. What happens when you grow up and your children watch you sitting there pounding away on that car? Now Ludacris stood up there looking like a man, lookin’ like he had some common sense and you in the back gyrating like a crazy monkey on the top of a car.

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Any woman that is asked to do this shit needs to smack down the director.


Ok, but you HAVE to give it to Tip Drill! They went ALL OUT to take BOOTY SHAKIN' to a whole NUTHA LEVEL! razz razz

I say if you're gonna exploit the dumb broads that choose to do those videos - DO IT JUST LIKE THAT! Thank you, Nelly! You may not have tight rap skills, but you sho' can put a BOOTY SHAKIN' VIDEO TOGETHER!
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Reply #21 posted 07/15/05 10:01pm

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laurarichardson said:

GrayKing said:

I really like what Jaguar has to say. But it would be a lot more convincing if she'd learn to speak more articulately.
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Maybe you can hunt her down and the two of you can discuss it . I bet the discussion would put you in the same situation as those dumbass frat boys.
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then she's a hypocrite. and she'd also be in jail.
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Reply #22 posted 07/15/05 11:00pm

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I can't stand preachy artists. shut up and do you thang! and live everyone else alone. She's hating on Ciara because well?? who the hell is Jaguar?
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Reply #23 posted 07/16/05 1:17am

Hotlegs

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I can't stand preachy artists.

Co-sign. Let a playette play pimp2 shit. That's how I see it. She really needs to damn all the hypocrite banter and sweep in front of her own damn front door first and deal with her own issues.
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Reply #24 posted 07/16/05 5:24am

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sorry im kinda ignorant when it comes 2 music a little bit, who is Jaguar? lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
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Reply #25 posted 07/16/05 6:34pm

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twink69 said:

I can't stand preachy artists. shut up and do you thang! and live everyone else alone. She's hating on Ciara because well?? who the hell is Jaguar?




Just because Jaguar isn't the current pop tart....dosen't mean the woman ain't on point...maybe not by your likings because you might be used to the run of the mill norm...OMG Jag will shit on Ciara.

and since we insist on asking the rhetoric question again...who is she?
I think BlackKnight summed it up best...


a. She's a damn good singer.
b. You don't. It was an interview where she was asked her opinions and she stated them. She didn't ask for a cheerleading section or an audience for her social views.
Her singing voice is great, though.

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[Edited 7/16/05 18:48pm]
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
And I am
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Reply #26 posted 07/17/05 3:52pm

RipHer2Shreds

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sorry im kinda ignorant when it comes 2 music a little bit, who is Jaguar? lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

I asked that question before and got half an answer smile I couldn't find anything about her. Reading through another thread, I realized that her performing name is actually Jaguar Wright. You can find more about her on allmusic.com. Decent singer, boring music.
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Reply #27 posted 07/17/05 3:55pm

Rhondab

RipHer2Shreds said:

missmad said:

sorry im kinda ignorant when it comes 2 music a little bit, who is Jaguar? lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

I asked that question before and got half an answer smile I couldn't find anything about her. Reading through another thread, I realized that her performing name is actually Jaguar Wright. You can find more about her on allmusic.com. Decent singer, boring music.



go to okayplayer.com
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Reply #28 posted 07/17/05 3:59pm

Rhondab

laurarichardson said:

Moonwalkbjrain said:




damn, thats messed up..i still think this is funny tho

There’s nothing cute about Ciara sittin’ there humpin’ on a car like a deranged Chihuahua. I liked that lil’ girl (Ciara) until I saw her humpin’ on that car. And it’s not like it made me not like her. My heart went out to her. What happens when you grow up and your children watch you sitting there pounding away on that car? Now Ludacris stood up there looking like a man, lookin’ like he had some common sense and you in the back gyrating like a crazy monkey on the top of a car.

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I know Prince fans are not complaining about foul language. I don't care for the cussing on Jaugar's first CD but, she is not jumping around like a damm monkey like Ciara going on about her Goodies.

Any woman that is asked to do this shit needs to smack down the director.



confused

if i remember the video, she's dancing.

Its interesting what ppl get offended by. i didn't even think about ciara...I think she's tame compared to most. confused
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