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Printableunique said: Pellwormer said: I think Ashcrofts Perdformance with Coldplay was one of the greatest songs performed.
Pink Floyd - of course. But did Gilmour grinned 2 Mason when Waters began 2 sing ...erm....with a slightly broken voice? Madonna ...sometimes sounded like a gouvernante (right germish?) or a nanny.. ("COME ON!!!!"  )
Yeah and the former Libertines singer (whatwashisname??) ...wasn't he just a lil bit 2 stoned?? Or just 2 cool? Saint Bob's performance of course - very symphatic - I nearly cried bittersweet symphony with coldplay and ashcroft was a gr8 moment, funnily enought i had just started listening 2 old verve stuff recently rogers voice did let down the floyd a bit, i think its cuz he was so emotional over the reunion. this was highlighted by turning wish u were here in2 a "duet" 2 allow rog more vocal time. if they had 2 do 1 more song, it should have been run like hell, but im not sure if they couldve picked up the pace 4 it i don't like mondays was cool 2, hopefully he will just do that 1 song and no more 2morro nite pete docherty said he wasn't on drugs, he was just very nervous 2 play such a big audience. he was a mess, but i enjoyed his performance, it was 1 of the moments of live 8. at least it was a well loved song we all knew this time 2morro i'll b at the final push... what is this proper band thing? Madonna normally has 1 drummer 1 guitarist 1 bassist/ extra keyboardist 2 keyboardist 1 percussionist 1 programmer/ extra keyboardist 2 background singers Virgin and Who's That Girl had an extra guitarst Who's that Girl had an extra background singer Prince normally has what 1 drummer 1 to 2 guitarist 1 bassist 2 keyboard players lately some horn players how is his band anymore proper than hers? they seem to travel with the number. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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now this was a moment i never thought i would c in the flesh  x 1,000 Wish I had been there! Hope we get to see more of them together, hopefully at least a few gigs...dare I hope for some new music?  "I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 |
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unique said: had madonna gotten in a band similar 2 the npg 4 xample, and got rid of the drum machine sound and programmed keyboards, and got a funky drummer and bassist, and keyboard players that can jam and give her a true raw and live funky sound, it would have been much better
I definitely agree with this. Music live should be, in a way, a back to basics thing. I think the closest madonna has come to this was her 93 Girlie Show Tour. Everyone of those musicians was top class, they stripped down the arrangements to her songs, and completely revised them, hence ALL the Erotica songs sounding much better than they did on record. My problem with her current band is 1) The Drummer - he's shit. why not just programme a drum machine????? 2) No Bassist. I know Stuart Price or whoever would occasionaly play bass guitar, but not to a good level. The rest of the time it was all keyboards / programming - it sucks. There is no compensating for using proper instruments, they produce a completely authentic feel, even if they do sound different to the record. You can actually FEEL a real drum set, or a real bass guitar, not just hear them. 3) I dont recall seeing a percussionist on her last tour. I know she had one on drowned world, but i dont remember one on ReInvention. HOWEVER - I would say that I thought the ReInvention tour was absolutely brilliant, the band being pretty much the only down point. I dont think any modern pop artist apart from her could put on a show of such invention and creativity. Also I think Stuart Price is excellent. Im not sure if he's the main keyboardist, but some of the synths and keyboards have been excellent. I aint averse to synths / programming etc, in fact i think done well they can take the live sound to a new level. Id love to see Maddy do an unplugged album, but as with Prince, synths have been a massive part of her music, and it would lose something in the process. | |
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CrozzaUK said: rocknrolldave said: 
Can we not all just agree to disagree over Madonna and move on to something else about Live 8 please?! OK, just having my two penneth. Ill give a run down of my thoughts. Annie Lennox: - Magnificent performance. Great voice, great stage persona. Excellent. Her performance of Why was mesmorising.. Scissor Sisters - Brilliant. I love everything they do anyway, but no one looks like they're having a better time when performing than they do. Great new song as well. REM - Another great performance, Michael Stipes voice seemed to be having a hard day though - i saw them a few weeks ago and his voice sounde dmuch better than this. Looked like they really enjoyed it. They have the perfect stadium songs.. U2 - Great performance.Pastmasters at this kind of thing. Played my 2 favourite songs in One and Beautiful Day. Coldplay - good - nice little nod to "The Quo" on In my Place. Paul McCartney - Helter Skelter - i think i tripped out at that point. Absolutely blinding performance of that. He may be ancient, but he still rocked that one. Didnt like the way he went straight into the coda of Hey Jude - what they didnt have 3 mins to do the first bit???? Pink Floyd - Sounded perfect, i think an earlier slot would have been better for their set though. Kind of mellowed things out too much. Sting - Great performance. I cant believe his voice is as good as it was 20 years ago. Robbie - He knows exactly how to work a crowd, and who can resist a singalong to Angels. He's still a jumped up show off though. Mariah Carey - you get a lot of her for your money dont you! Couldnt quite believe that dress, the stylist should be shot. She sounded great though. All in all i thought the Live8 concerts were excellent. The lineups could have done with some fine tuning, and i cant believe some people didnt play. Bowie, The Rolling Sones, Prince??? However I dont think a single person could ahve come away from this day not being more aware of the cause, and not having felt the magnitude of the situation. [Edited 7/5/05 3:16am] This is the best summary of the London show I have seen so far - Pretty much matches my views too. I also thought the Who were great..Townsend looked the business and was pulling out all the old moves like it was 1970 or something. And in response to the whole "Madonna did/didn't have a proper band" argument that others are having above, I would say that her set had one of the less impressive sound mixes, and the drums, whilst live were an electronic kit and sounded mechanical and soulless. Compare and contrast to Joss Stone's funky and vibrant band. | |
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CandaceS said: unique said:
now this was a moment i never thought i would c in the flesh x 1,000 Wish I had been there! Hope we get to see more of them together, hopefully at least a few gigs...dare I hope for some new music? don't want to be the one who posts this cuz I'm hoping for the same thing...unfortunately it probably won't happen: PINK FLOYD REFUSE TO MAKE COMEBACK Rock legends PINK FLOYD have refused to make a comeback - despite the success of their one-off reunion for Saturday's (02JUL05) star-studded London Live 8 concert. The band - ROGER WATERS, DAVE GILMOUR, NICK MASON and RICHARD WRIGHT - reunited for their first performance in 24 years, and thrilled fans by playing four hit tracks including MONEY and WISH YOU WERE HERE. But the foursome insist they will never perform together again, because they are too old. Mason said, "Why did we reform? It's a damn good way of spending a weekend." But when asked if the reunion was a once-in-a-lifetime event, Gilmour replied, "Yes." Let the rain come down...17 days.... | |
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marto said: On saturday 2nd july 2005 85% of the world watched live 8.
actually, it didn't. the television ratings were quite low, and not that many people logged on to watch. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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purplegypsy said: don't want to be the one who posts this cuz I'm hoping for the same thing...unfortunately it probably won't happen: PINK FLOYD REFUSE TO MAKE COMEBACK Rock legends PINK FLOYD have refused to make a comeback - despite the success of their one-off reunion for Saturday's (02JUL05) star-studded London Live 8 concert. The band - ROGER WATERS, DAVE GILMOUR, NICK MASON and RICHARD WRIGHT - reunited for their first performance in 24 years, and thrilled fans by playing four hit tracks including MONEY and WISH YOU WERE HERE. But the foursome insist they will never perform together again, because they are too old. Mason said, "Why did we reform? It's a damn good way of spending a weekend." But when asked if the reunion was a once-in-a-lifetime event, Gilmour replied, "Yes."  But then again, I'm sure in the past they also figured they'd never play together again (say, at the "height" of the legal battles following Waters' departure), so I won't give up hope! 
 at the too old comment! In the Barry Miles Pink Floyd book that was published years ago, I recall Gilmour was quoted saying they were too old to deal with the stresses of touring the U.S....this comment was made in the 70's!!  If I were at home, I'd look thru the book and provide the date and exact quote ."I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 |
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ehuffnsd said:[quote] unique said: bittersweet symphony with coldplay and ashcroft was a gr8 moment, funnily enought i had just started listening 2 old verve stuff recently rogers voice did let down the floyd a bit, i think its cuz he was so emotional over the reunion. this was highlighted by turning wish u were here in2 a "duet" 2 allow rog more vocal time. if they had 2 do 1 more song, it should have been run like hell, but im not sure if they couldve picked up the pace 4 it i don't like mondays was cool 2, hopefully he will just do that 1 song and no more 2morro nite pete docherty said he wasn't on drugs, he was just very nervous 2 play such a big audience. he was a mess, but i enjoyed his performance, it was 1 of the moments of live 8. at least it was a well loved song we all knew this time 2morro i'll b at the final push... Yeah, I think u're right. I wished, Floyd's performance would have been a lil bit longer. They just warmed up. Doherty must have sued the cap he was trying 2 wear (well, hardly franglais, my english). Always droppin' it... | |
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Nikki23 said: purpledoveuk said: I wonder why Prince doesnt get involved with these things. I can kindof understand it for the original Live Aid because his ego was over-inflated back then and perhaps he didnt want to mix with everuone else
Maybe because Bob Geldof has called him an asshole for the past 20 years, as he never took part in LiveAid in '85.But since then he's constandly played the race card and related his situation back to Africans (ie the whole Slave issue, Family Name, Avalanche, the Moures etc) I though now, of all periods in his life, he would want to be involved...even if with Stevie Wonder for one track...what message would that send, one of the most respected and largest artist giving his time for free to a worthy cause.....for a peopel who he seems only too keen to link himslef with to make a point about his career and treatment. what a shame [quote]True Bob Geldof really reamed Prince about not fully participating. He did the "4 The Tears In Your Eyes" video for Live Aid in '85. I was hoping he'd donate another video this year...oh well. | |
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theAudience said: VoicesCarry said: Madonnna was live. She wasn't even doing strenuous dance moves, and she usually doesn't even mime to those on her own tours.
Here's usually a dead giveaway in a "Live" show setting with crowds of this magnitude. If you're hearing audio with absolutely ZERO ambient crowd noise...it's MEMOREX. I got this impression during Laura Pausini's (Rome) first song. Either that or the performer has bored the crowd into a state of catatonia. tA  Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm Or the audio feed has been filtered for broadcast. Not hard to do these days. If you watched her, she definitely was singing live. And there ain't no way Annie Lennox, Pink Floyd or Paul McCartney were on Memorex. [Edited 7/8/05 23:44pm] | |
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VoicesCarry said: theAudience said: Here's usually a dead giveaway in a "Live" show setting with crowds of this magnitude. If you're hearing audio with absolutely ZERO ambient crowd noise...it's MEMOREX. I got this impression during Laura Pausini's (Rome) first song. Either that or the performer has bored the crowd into a state of catatonia. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm Or the audio feed has been filtered for broadcast. Not hard to do these days. If you watched her, she definitely was singing live. And there ain't no way Annie Lennox, Pink Floyd or Paul McCartney were on Memorex.
Very strange technique as you would think that crowd energy is part of what makes a LIVE performance special. Many times specific mics are set up just to capture ambient crowd noise. I just happened to notice the difference in sound during Laura Pausini's initial song. And I don't for a second think that "Annie Lennox, Pink Floyd or Paul McCartney were on Memorex" 
Btw, did you happen to catch Zucchero's performance of Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime? tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm [Edited 7/10/05 12:19pm] "Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all." | |
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theAudience said: VoicesCarry said: Or the audio feed has been filtered for broadcast. Not hard to do these days. If you watched her, she definitely was singing live. And there ain't no way Annie Lennox, Pink Floyd or Paul McCartney were on Memorex.
Very strange technique as you would think that crowd energy is part of what makes a LIVE performance special. Many times specific mics are set up just to capture ambient crowd noise. I just happened to notice the difference in sound during Laura Pausini's initial song. And I don't for a second think that "Annie Lennox, Pink Floyd or Paul McCartney were on Memorex"
Btw, did you happen to catch Zucchero's performance of Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime? tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm [Edited 7/10/05 12:19pm] Nah, I only watched bits of London. Haven't seen much else. Maybe I'll go on AOL and check out Laura Pausini. The crowds never really seemed to go wild anywhere, though. I would not be surprised if they filtered the audio because they were afraid the crowd noise would drown out the stage noise. | |
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VoicesCarry said: Nah, I only watched bits of London. Haven't seen much else. Maybe I'll go on AOL and check out Laura Pausini. The crowds never really seemed to go wild anywhere, though. I would not be surprised if they filtered the audio because they were afraid the crowd noise would drown out the stage noise. They went pretty wild for Pink Floyd.
Zucchero was on the Paris stage. Lemme know what you think. tA Tribal Disorder
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theAudience said: VoicesCarry said: Or the audio feed has been filtered for broadcast. Not hard to do these days. If you watched her, she definitely was singing live. And there ain't no way Annie Lennox, Pink Floyd or Paul McCartney were on Memorex.
Very strange technique as you would think that crowd energy is part of what makes a LIVE performance special. Many times specific mics are set up just to capture ambient crowd noise. I just happened to notice the difference in sound during Laura Pausini's initial song. And I don't for a second think that "Annie Lennox, Pink Floyd or Paul McCartney were on Memorex"
Btw, did you happen to catch Zucchero's performance of Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime? tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm [Edited 7/10/05 12:19pm] watch Madge again. Listen to her miss notes and strain all through LAP and ROL. both are too high for her to sing in person. Music was defintly live cause it's a bit slower than the record version You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: theAudience said: Very strange technique as you would think that crowd energy is part of what makes a LIVE performance special. Many times specific mics are set up just to capture ambient crowd noise. I just happened to notice the difference in sound during Laura Pausini's initial song. And I don't for a second think that "Annie Lennox, Pink Floyd or Paul McCartney were on Memorex"
Btw, did you happen to catch Zucchero's performance of Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime? tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm [Edited 7/10/05 12:19pm] watch Madge again. Listen to her miss notes and strain all through LAP and ROL. both are too high for her to sing in person. Music was defintly live cause it's a bit slower than the record version I agree that Madonna was completely live, but the problem of the live version being slower than the album version means nothing what with a newly-recorded vocal track if she so desired. Artists do it all the time. Fools a lot of people. | |
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VoicesCarry said: ehuffnsd said: watch Madge again. Listen to her miss notes and strain all through LAP and ROL. both are too high for her to sing in person. Music was defintly live cause it's a bit slower than the record version I agree that Madonna was completely live, but the problem of the live version being slower than the album version means nothing what with a newly-recorded vocal track if she so desired. Artists do it all the time. Fools a lot of people. very true... like the lower pitched Vouge for RIT. but Mads always sings live just the mic isn't always on You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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theAudience said: VoicesCarry said: Nah, I only watched bits of London. Haven't seen much else. Maybe I'll go on AOL and check out Laura Pausini. The crowds never really seemed to go wild anywhere, though. I would not be surprised if they filtered the audio because they were afraid the crowd noise would drown out the stage noise. They went pretty wild for Pink Floyd.
Zucchero was on the Paris stage. Lemme know what you think. tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm In London, because of overrunning, many had left by the early evening in order to get trains (most of which to Northern England finished as early as 8:30pm, would you believe) so the crowds were actually thinning out by the evening, which accounts for some of the subdued feel. Also, there was no alcohol allowed. | |
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The highlight for me was Snoop and Madonna. Maybe both aren't technically gifted musicians but they were the best performers. | |
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