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Reply #30 posted 06/24/05 6:56am

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LightOfArt said:

All I ever hear from younger people when they try to defend their music is, "My mother says the same thing and her mother said the same thing to her.


that argument is fruitless because there are load of young folks who also think today's music is shit shrug


So true. I never met any until I joined this site. I'm so glad to see that there are some young people that have a mind of their own.
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Reply #31 posted 06/24/05 7:21am

rocknrolldave

The great thing is that whatever music we have today just adds to an already vast stockpile to choose from.

I have heard people like Keith Richards say how they were there at the start of Pop/ Rock music, how they witnessed it being born, which is all cool and all that, but how much cooler is it to be 40/ 50 years down the line and able to cherry pick from the whole history of music?

And yeah, we WILL look back and pick stuff from this year too. Maybe we are too close to appreciate it just yet.
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Reply #32 posted 06/24/05 7:46am

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Little of column "A", little of column "B"....
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Reply #33 posted 06/24/05 7:47am

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And yeah, we WILL look back and pick stuff from this year too. Maybe we are too close to appreciate it just yet.


I can only think of four songs (from the mainstream) from the last five or six years that sounded even halfway worth a damn to me:

Believe - Cher
Music - Madonna
It's My Life - No Doubt (which was a remake so I really shouldn't be counting it, but I will)
Musicology - Prince

That's only four songs. I could really have an all night party with those, couldn't I? lol
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Reply #34 posted 06/24/05 7:55am

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LightOfArt said:

All I ever hear from younger people when they try to defend their music is, "My mother says the same thing and her mother said the same thing to her.


that argument is fruitless because there are load of young folks who also think today's music is shit shrug


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Reply #35 posted 06/24/05 8:03am

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Both
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Reply #36 posted 06/24/05 9:16am

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What saint said, with this qualifier.

There's good stuff coming from all directions, be it alternative, rock, pop, jazz or hip-hop. The internet has changed the way we find music, but the industry "products" still dominates the airwaves.
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Reply #37 posted 06/24/05 9:29am

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namepeace said:

There's good stuff coming from all directions, be it alternative, rock, pop, jazz or hip-hop. The internet has changed the way we find music, but the industry "products" still dominates the airwaves.


Those mean nothing to me. Where's the funk? biggrin
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Reply #38 posted 06/24/05 9:34am

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namepeace said:

saintsation said:

Both


What saint said, with this qualifier.

There's good stuff coming from all directions, be it alternative, rock, pop, jazz or hip-hop. The internet has changed the way we find music, but the industry "products" still dominates the airwaves.



Music sux these days except these boots are walking by that gal jessiac simpson. lol And we are getting older by the second of the day.
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Reply #39 posted 06/24/05 9:36am

namepeace

vainandy said:

namepeace said:

There's good stuff coming from all directions, be it alternative, rock, pop, jazz or hip-hop. The internet has changed the way we find music, but the industry "products" still dominates the airwaves.


Those mean nothing to me. Where's the funk? biggrin


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Reply #40 posted 06/24/05 9:37am

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most of its shit machinegun
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Reply #41 posted 06/24/05 9:40am

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vainandy said:



There has always been shit but never such widespread shit to the point that there is absolutely nothing good like today's music scene. As far as "you have to go and look for it", you didn't have to look for it back then, it came to you.




YUP, YUP, YUP, You are right about that.....so true
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Reply #42 posted 06/24/05 9:44am

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Today's music is shit. lol I'm 27, and I cannot get into the crap thats peddled on mainstream radio. I prefer listening to oldies stations, jazz stations and college radio when I listen to it. I never watch BET or MTV, or VH1 for that matter. I do watch VH1 Classic and VH1 Soul, very good stations. Other than that, I play my own cds and most of them are from the 70s-80s. neutral
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Reply #43 posted 06/24/05 9:50am

namepeace

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vainandy said:

As far as "you have to go and look for it", you didn't have to look for it back then, it came to you.


YUP, YUP, YUP, You are right about that.....so true


vain IS right, but we are where we are. and other than going back and exploring jazz, revisiting old artists/albums I've skipped, etc. I have to rely on the internet, recommendations, news, etc. to keep up with new gems. but i have to work to find good stuff now. i wish radio and videos made it easier, but they don't.
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Reply #44 posted 06/24/05 9:51am

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namepeace said:

righteous1 said:



YUP, YUP, YUP, You are right about that.....so true


vain IS right, but we are where we are. and other than going back and exploring jazz, revisiting old artists/albums I've skipped, etc. I have to rely on the internet, recommendations, news, etc. to keep up with new gems. but i have to work to find good stuff now. i wish radio and videos made it easier, but they don't.


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Reply #45 posted 06/24/05 9:54am

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There is a lot of bad music out there but there is a lot of good music out there. I think a lot of people think that today's music sucks because the radio stations that say they play the latest music, MTV, VH1, and BET play the same 10 songs in a row all day long. Not only do you get sick of the music quicker, you don't get to hear any other music than that. That's what I like about mix or oldies stations, you can hear a variety of music without having to listen to the same songs in row all day long. Although, if you want a record deal now adays you have to be attrative when it should be about talent, not looks.
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Reply #46 posted 06/24/05 11:28am

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Damn right! I took current radio stations off my dial years ago. The only ones I listen to now are oldies stations and I be damned if Clear Channel doesn't own those too. Out of decades and thousands of old songs, they take a select few and play them 10 times a day. Brain control is what it is. They are going to make sure that people only hear the songs that they want them to hear.

nod Vain Baby, you hit it right on the head. This sounds like a conspiracy against real music and real musicians. The powers that be are fabricating music to munipulate young minds and turn them into drones.
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Reply #47 posted 06/24/05 11:42am

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nod Vain Baby, you hit it right on the head. This sounds like a conspiracy against real music and real musicians. The powers that be are fabricating music to munipulate young minds and turn them into drones.


I don't think young folk are a monolith. After all, they're usually the first to put a band "on." In the 80's, bands like REM, and underground hip-hop sets like BDP and PE and ATCQ were hot in the high schools and on college campuses before they blew up. It's the same now, with bands like the Shins and Arcade Fire. But you and vain are right on, radio tends to reduce the listening options. As Sagat once said, we hear the same 5 songs, 15 times a day, for 3 months.
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Reply #48 posted 06/24/05 11:47am

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Well, I think that this decade in music is over. I know that there are kids sitting in their basements right now coming up with the next new beat. In the 80's you only had Reagan and his oppression, not much to help the artist create there. In the 70's you got Eric Clapton, The Eagles, and many other artists who came out and created, but that was only a way for them to enjoy the pot that was floating around back then. The 60's was an acid trip gone good. The 50's, well, lets just say I have a poodle skirt in the closet that I bring out from time to time. I am almost 25 and the last big wave that I saw dominate the music industry was the Boy Bands but I don't think that I would consider them long in the running, they really didn't put an end to anything the way that Grunge of the Early 90's put an end to the Hair Bands. I grew up listening to a lot of 60's & 70's music and that is what I will always love, but I enjoy keeping myself open to new people with new musical idea's. The White Stripes have crossed over boundries like few others, The Killer's are perhaps this generations omfg Nirvana. When you close yourself off to the new experiences then you have to accept what you have, I don't like accepting things that don't please me. So I'll keep my ears open and keep bouncing 2 "What The Fuss"! Who knows, maybe these young'uns will start diggin' Stevie like an old Soul Wreka. mr.green
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Reply #49 posted 06/24/05 11:52am

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MsLegs said:

vainandy said:


nod Vain Baby, you hit it right on the head. This sounds like a conspiracy against real music and real musicians. The powers that be are fabricating music to munipulate young minds and turn them into drones.


I don't think young folk are a monolith. After all, they're usually the first to put a band "on." In the 80's, bands like REM, and underground hip-hop sets like BDP and PE and ATCQ were hot in the high schools and on college campuses before they blew up. It's the same now, with bands like the Shins and Arcade Fire. But you and vain are right on, radio tends to reduce the listening options. As Sagat once said, we hear the same 5 songs, 15 times a day, for 3 months.

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Reply #50 posted 06/24/05 12:21pm

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Todays music is sooo shite, and that cuming from an 17 year old, I hate 2 fink what my children are gonna be listenin 2 when Im older...

..But now i know why my nan and granddad always used 2 say "that music your listenin 2 is rubbish"

Cus back in there day it was amazing, i would rather listen 2 anything from the 60's 70's or 80's.

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Reply #51 posted 06/24/05 12:43pm

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Now Andy, I KNOW u know the answer to that! But don't fret children, all of that is GONNA change! What did Mighty Mouse used to sing?... There it is.
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Reply #52 posted 06/24/05 12:50pm

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Now Andy, I KNOW u know the answer to that! But don't fret children, all of that is GONNA change! What did Mighty Mouse used to sing?... There it is.

hmmm So BG Baby, you and the Funk are here to save the day. Well, if so, Legs can get w/that program.
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Reply #53 posted 06/24/05 1:10pm

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There has always been good and shit music around...


For example, I look back at the 80's and I think WOW! Great stuff - Blondie, Smiths etc etc..


..but it's easy to forget all the garbage that was also around at the time.Growing up at the time, I listened to anything but the good stuff!


Maybe it takes a bit of time to sift the crud out of the pan and leave us with the nuggets...?



Truth. it's easy to look back at the 80's and see Prince, U2, The Police, etc., etc. and be blown away. But nobody wants to remember the massive success of Debbie Gibson and Micheal Bolton.



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Reply #54 posted 06/24/05 1:31pm

namepeace

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Truth. it's easy to look back at the 80's and see Prince, U2, The Police, etc., etc. and be blown away. But nobody wants to remember the massive succes of Debbie Gibson and Micheal Bolton.


Co-sign.

Save for Michael Jackson and maybe Madonna, most of the 80's superstars were nurtured by devoted cult followings. And for every Springsteen, there was a Billy Ocean. For every Prince, there was a Jack Wagner. For every Madonna, there was a Madon . . . nevermind.

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Reply #55 posted 06/24/05 1:42pm

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Both, there are no more great dance pop singles.
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Reply #56 posted 06/24/05 1:56pm

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DorothyParkerWasCool said:

Today's music is shit. lol I'm 27, and I cannot get into the crap thats peddled on mainstream radio. I prefer listening to oldies stations, jazz stations and college radio when I listen to it. I never watch BET or MTV, or VH1 for that matter. I do watch VH1 Classic and VH1 Soul, very good stations. Other than that, I play my own cds and most of them are from the 70s-80s. neutral




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Reply #57 posted 06/24/05 1:56pm

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Both, there are no more great dance pop singles.




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Reply #58 posted 06/24/05 2:01pm

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DorothyParkerWasCool said:

Today's music is shit. lol I'm 27, and I cannot get into the crap thats peddled on mainstream radio. I prefer listening to oldies stations, jazz stations and college radio when I listen to it. I never watch BET or MTV, or VH1 for that matter. I do watch VH1 Classic and VH1 Soul, very good stations. Other than that, I play my own cds and most of them are from the 70s-80s. neutral




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Reply #59 posted 06/24/05 2:29pm

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ya know, i started a thread with a title almost identical to this a while back, and i'm glad to see the topic get resurrected every now and then.

my theory about music right now is that we're in a space not unlike the mid-70s, which was a very conservative and uninspired time in terms of mainstream pop - think bubblegum music and lite FM (sound familiar?) - but there was also TONS of fantastic music thriving under the surface of what the major record labels and mainstream radio was trying to forcefeed us. there was great stuff being played in clubs, there was the birth of punk in london and a parallel craze going on in america, in NYC and LA, and there was all kinds of experimental music quietly getting released and gobbled up by small communities of music geeks and college kids.

thirty years later, we remember roxy music and david bowie and kraftwerk. we don't really laud the albums of david cassidy, leif garrett or gerry rafferty.

the point is, the shit sinks and the good stuff rises, surfaces, and gets remembered.

i dunno if that's a consolation or not, but i can see that happening with the really excellent music that's been released over the past few years - meanwhile, clay aiken's first album is gonna be so much dog-eared garage sale fodder.
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