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Reply #30 posted 06/22/05 6:03am

DavidEye

paligap said:

I still think the Earth Wind and Fire situation is worse. They released a single in september of last year, "Show Me The Way"...It was even nominated for a 2004 Grammy, everybody was asking about the new record....and the album, "Illumination", STILL hasn't dropped! last I heard, it was set for September, what d'you bet they're gonna miss that date, too...the single will have been out a year with no album to go with it....



This situation is becoming more and more common,lol.Last year,Babyface released a single called "The Loneliness".The song was said to be the first single from his album 'Love Story'.The video (which featured Mayte,btw) was even shown on BET.But the song came and went without leaving a trace,and the album was never released.He has since scrapped most of that album,recorded some new tracks,and is planning to finally release it this summer.

This begs the question....why release a single if the album isn't finished? It confuses many listeners.
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Reply #31 posted 06/22/05 11:18am

manray10

DavidEye said:

paligap said:

I still think the Earth Wind and Fire situation is worse. They released a single in september of last year, "Show Me The Way"...It was even nominated for a 2004 Grammy, everybody was asking about the new record....and the album, "Illumination", STILL hasn't dropped! last I heard, it was set for September, what d'you bet they're gonna miss that date, too...the single will have been out a year with no album to go with it....



This situation is becoming more and more common,lol.Last year,Babyface released a single called "The Loneliness".The song was said to be the first single from his album 'Love Story'.The video (which featured Mayte,btw) was even shown on BET.But the song came and went without leaving a trace,and the album was never released.He has since scrapped most of that album,recorded some new tracks,and is planning to finally release it this summer.

This begs the question....why release a single if the album isn't finished? It confuses many listeners.



EXACTLY!!!!! I've been saying this all along!!
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Reply #32 posted 06/22/05 6:36pm

CinisterCee

I bought the CD single for "So What The Fuss" finally today at HMV, for $2.99 Cdn.

1. Radio Edit 4:13
2. Album Version 6:06
3. Mario Winans Remix feat. Q-Tip 3:49
4. Mario Winans Remix (No Rap) 4:13

Drums: Stevie Wonder
Bass: Stevie Wonder
Keyboards: Stevie Wonder
Guitar(s): PRINCE courtesy of himself
Percussion: Stevie Wonder
Background Vocals: En Vogue

The remix is corny to me.
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Reply #33 posted 06/22/05 6:45pm

VoicesCarryFur
ther

CinisterCee said:

I bought the CD single for "So What The Fuss" finally today at HMV, for $2.99 Cdn.

1. Radio Edit 4:13
2. Album Version 6:06
3. Mario Winans Remix feat. Q-Tip 3:49
4. Mario Winans Remix (No Rap) 4:13


Drums: Stevie Wonder
Bass: Stevie Wonder
Keyboards: Stevie Wonder
Guitar(s): PRINCE courtesy of himself
Percussion: Stevie Wonder
Background Vocals: En Vogue

The remix is corny to me.


Mario Winans remixing Stevie. That pretty much sums up what is WRONG with the industry today.
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Reply #34 posted 06/22/05 6:53pm

CinisterCee

VoicesCarryFurther said:

CinisterCee said:

I bought the CD single for "So What The Fuss" finally today at HMV, for $2.99 Cdn.

1. Radio Edit 4:13
2. Album Version 6:06
3. Mario Winans Remix feat. Q-Tip 3:49
4. Mario Winans Remix (No Rap) 4:13


Drums: Stevie Wonder
Bass: Stevie Wonder
Keyboards: Stevie Wonder
Guitar(s): PRINCE courtesy of himself
Percussion: Stevie Wonder
Background Vocals: En Vogue

The remix is corny to me.


Mario Winans remixing Stevie. That pretty much sums up what is WRONG with the industry today.


Yup!! It's totally "well hopefully radio will play this rap remix if they don't like soul music". It uses Mobb Deep's "Shook Ones", as if that isn't played out.
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Reply #35 posted 06/23/05 2:12am

DavidEye

CinisterCee said:

I bought the CD single for "So What The Fuss" finally today at HMV, for $2.99 Cdn.

1. Radio Edit 4:13
2. Album Version 6:06
3. Mario Winans Remix feat. Q-Tip 3:49
4. Mario Winans Remix (No Rap) 4:13

Drums: Stevie Wonder
Bass: Stevie Wonder
Keyboards: Stevie Wonder
Guitar(s): PRINCE courtesy of himself
Percussion: Stevie Wonder
Background Vocals: En Vogue

The remix is corny to me.




I gotta get my hands on that! The "From The Bottom Of My Heart" CD single has just been released too.I'm gonna look for both singles this weekend.Since the album isn't being released anytime soon,I guess I'll have to be satisfied with just the singles confused
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Reply #36 posted 06/23/05 2:28pm

VinnyM27

avatar

laurarichardson said:

lastdecember said:

Well the reason i was told by a source that basically buys for a record chain and writes an article for Vibe. the reason this record is delayed is that MOTOWN is worried about making the money back that it has invested and they have invested alot, so they say. They have said that it all depends on that first week sales number, which honestly is sad that with an ARTIST like STEVIE we are even talking about how many units he will scan, WHO GIVES A SHIT, just put out music, this is why the whole industry is crashing and burning, its all bottom line and all the artists are SHIT. A rep for Motown told my source that they have to at least move 200,000 that first week to be close to breaking even. Well if thats what they shooting for, they aint gonna get it, there is no way that stevie will scan 200,000 units opening week, I love stevie, but the public just doesnt buy like that. Those are opening numbers for artists that "teens" buy.

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They can't be serious because they did a horrible job pre-marketing this CD.
Just look at the awful and cheap video for "What's The Fuss".



The video hardly looks cheap and I thought it was well done. It seems to be doing OK as far as getting video play, consdiering the big three hardly play videos anymore. But I agree that Motown isn't doing a great job promoting the CD.
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Reply #37 posted 06/23/05 2:32pm

VinnyM27

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paligap said:

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I still think the Earth Wind and Fire situation is worse. They released a single in september of last year, "Show Me The Way"...It was even nominated for a 2004 Grammy, everybody was asking about the new record....and the album, "Illumination", STILL hasn't dropped! last I heard, it was set for September, what d'you bet they're gonna miss that date, too...the single will have been out a year with no album to go with it....





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It should be a crime how older and established acts are treated. Older acts in general I guess.
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Reply #38 posted 06/26/05 9:22am

laurarichardso
n

VinnyM27 said:

laurarichardson said:


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They can't be serious because they did a horrible job pre-marketing this CD.
Just look at the awful and cheap video for "What's The Fuss".



The video hardly looks cheap and I thought it was well done. It seems to be doing OK as far as getting video play, consdiering the big three hardly play videos anymore. But I agree that Motown isn't doing a great job promoting the CD.

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If you don't think that video is cheap. I would like to know what expensive is to you. The video lighting is dark. Those chicks are not En Vogue and they look like they just got off the ghetto bus. The musicians playing with Stevie look like corner wine heads. It sucks ass.
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