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Reply #210 posted 06/13/05 8:53pm

Stymie

SassyBritches said:

you know what? some of you are so full of shit i can't even bear it.

please drop the self righteous crap just because some are thrilled that mike is not going to jail. yes, the whole ordeal is sad and yes, the whole ordeal is a travesty. nobody is denying that. just because people are glad mj is not going to jail doesn't mean thay are celebrating the trial or the entire circus show that it was.

everybody knows its a disgrace what this child was put through (either way). everyone has said this time and time again.

if you don't agree with the verdict, great...let's discuss why. what has the prosecution provided to the jury that should guarantee a "guilty" verdict? why do you think the jury should have come back with a different verdict? how, exactly, did the justice system fail today? it seems to me that it worked the way it should. this was a criminal case and not a civil case. a preponderance of guilt is not enough...it must be beyond a reasonable doubt. in my opinin, and the jury's, there was certainly enough reasonable doubt.

its great to have your own opinions and its even better if you can back them up with reason but, please, do us all a favor and drop the holier than thou attitude.
Before I say anything, were you referring to me as one of the ones?
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Reply #211 posted 06/13/05 9:26pm

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Nancy Grace is a joke like most of the media pundits. She plays to the conservative audience that wants to convict anyone that has been alleged or indicted of doing anything. Her show is a fucking joke and anyone with half a brain can see through that lame ass bull shit she peddles to the uninformed masses. The biased nature of the media makes me sick and sadly it molds public opinion. Regardless of what we feel about MJ, none of us know what went on and we only have 2nd, 3rd, 4th 5th.....70th hand info to go on so you REALLY can't state what happened because we are getting our info thru a lens. I'm tired of this shit already. It amazes me that we don't get this continuously worked up about the daily goings on of our government. This distraction is just what the Doctor ordered. confused


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Reply #212 posted 06/13/05 9:48pm

SassyBritches

Stymie said:

SassyBritches said:

you know what? some of you are so full of shit i can't even bear it.

please drop the self righteous crap just because some are thrilled that mike is not going to jail. yes, the whole ordeal is sad and yes, the whole ordeal is a travesty. nobody is denying that. just because people are glad mj is not going to jail doesn't mean thay are celebrating the trial or the entire circus show that it was.

everybody knows its a disgrace what this child was put through (either way). everyone has said this time and time again.

if you don't agree with the verdict, great...let's discuss why. what has the prosecution provided to the jury that should guarantee a "guilty" verdict? why do you think the jury should have come back with a different verdict? how, exactly, did the justice system fail today? it seems to me that it worked the way it should. this was a criminal case and not a civil case. a preponderance of guilt is not enough...it must be beyond a reasonable doubt. in my opinin, and the jury's, there was certainly enough reasonable doubt.

its great to have your own opinions and its even better if you can back them up with reason but, please, do us all a favor and drop the holier than thou attitude.
Before I say anything, were you referring to me as one of the ones?

honestly, i didn't even see that you had a comment up there. i'll have to go and look to see what you said. i'm specifically speaking to those people who think there's something wrong with a man who was on trial (and found guilty in the media before it even went to court) celebrating the fact that he is noty going to jail and that his name was cleared of the charges he has continuously and vehemently denied. those who say they would not celebrate their victory are in denial.
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Reply #213 posted 06/13/05 9:52pm

Stymie

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Stymie said:

Before I say anything, were you referring to me as one of the ones?

honestly, i didn't even see that you had a comment up there. i'll have to go and look to see what you said. i'm specifically speaking to those people who think there's something wrong with a man who was on trial (and found guilty in the media before it even went to court) celebrating the fact that he is noty going to jail and that his name was cleared of the charges he has continuously and vehemently denied. those who say they would not celebrate their victory are in denial.
No problems, J. Your posts always make me look at things from a different perspective. hug
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Reply #214 posted 06/13/05 9:53pm

SassyBritches

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In my opinion, there is truly nothing to celebrate.

its far too ambiguous of a statement for me to comment on. personally, i think the fact that mj has been through the wringer (not to mention the kid), yeah, i would still be mad as hell and not in a terribly celebratory mood. however, i would probably still go out for a drink and celebrate the fact that i still have my freedom and my name was cleared in the courts. would i throw a party? probably not. would i have some friends and family over and have some drinks? absolutely.

even still, i don't have a problem with those who've supported him day in and out celebrating. they are happy. they believed he was innocent and today their belief was echoed (to a degree) in the court. for them it is truly a cause for celebration.
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Reply #215 posted 06/13/05 9:57pm

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SassyBritches said:

Stymie said:

In my opinion, there is truly nothing to celebrate.

its far to0 ambiguous of a statement to make for me too comment on. personally, i think the fact that mj has been through the wringer (not to mention the kid), yeah, i would still be mad as hell and not in a terribly celebratory mood. however, i would probably still go out for a drink and celebrate the fact that i still have my freedom and my name was cleared in the courts. would i throw a party? probably not. would i have some friends and family over and have some drinks? absolutely.
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see, agreed..we can agree..

but i draw the line at people saying "fuck tom sneddon" and "mj, the new jesus" comments...it just reinforced the whole "the white man is out to get mj" mentality that his fans have adopted.....without forcing him to take ownership of the perverse and stupid actions that lead him to this situation...
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Reply #216 posted 06/13/05 10:00pm

SassyBritches

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SassyBritches said:


its far to0 ambiguous of a statement to make for me too comment on. personally, i think the fact that mj has been through the wringer (not to mention the kid), yeah, i would still be mad as hell and not in a terribly celebratory mood. however, i would probably still go out for a drink and celebrate the fact that i still have my freedom and my name was cleared in the courts. would i throw a party? probably not. would i have some friends and family over and have some drinks? absolutely.
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see, agreed..we can agree..

but i draw the line at people saying "fuck tom sneddon" and "mj, the new jesus" comments...it just reinforced the whole "the white man is out to get mj" mentality that his fans have adopted.....without forcing him to take ownership of the perverse and stupid actions that lead him to this situation...

hey, i think tom sneddon made a mockery of the santa barbara judicial system and i would wear a shirt that said "fuck tom" on it if for no other reason than because he wasted my tax money on a trophy case that he ended up losing due to insufficient evidence. tom's retiring and he could give two shits about anything but his nest egg book deal. if this were any other nobody the case probably would have never been granted an arrest warrant because tom would not have believed he could win it. because its mj and he can make a mint on the book deal, he went with it - and wasted millions of tax payers dollars on the way.
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Reply #217 posted 06/13/05 10:03pm

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I dont get it either. Why should I feel sad?


because all that's happened is that there is no proof against Jackson...it doesn't mean he's innocent at all.
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Reply #218 posted 06/13/05 10:12pm

Stymie

SassyBritches said:

Stymie said:

In my opinion, there is truly nothing to celebrate.

its far too ambiguous of a statement for me to comment on. personally, i think the fact that mj has been through the wringer (not to mention the kid), yeah, i would still be mad as hell and not in a terribly celebratory mood. however, i would probably still go out for a drink and celebrate the fact that i still have my freedom and my name was cleared in the courts. would i throw a party? probably not. would i have some friends and family over and have some drinks? absolutely.

even still, i don't have a problem with those who've supported him day in and out celebrating. they are happy. they believed he was innocent and today their belief was echoed (to a degree) in the court. for them it is truly a cause for celebration.
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Reply #219 posted 06/13/05 10:16pm

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I just saw "Larry King Live" and one of the jurors was interviewed. This juror said he personally believed that Michael was guilty of molesting a child in the past but for this particular case, there was no evidence to convict him. He said he didn't believe a 46 year old man could sleep with a young boy for 365 days and strictly eat popcorn and watch TV.
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Reply #220 posted 06/13/05 10:18pm

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100% INNOCENT!!

JUSTICE HAS PREVAILED!!

LOVE YOU MJ!! GOD BLESS!!
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Reply #221 posted 06/13/05 10:29pm

agentmonday

Get out of America mate. It's no place for you to live. Many places in the world will be more than happy to have you.

No evidence= no case. What a waste of time and money for crap like this to go through court.
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Reply #222 posted 06/13/05 10:29pm

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while everyone been paying attention to michael jackson , george w and his cronnies have been fucking the american middle class up the ass.
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Reply #223 posted 06/13/05 10:40pm

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beret1022 said:

NOT GUILTY!!!


Now is a great time for Michael to go back to the studio and make some f***ing black music again!!!!! cool

No more of this "Heal the world for the lost children, liveaid-like, earth theme song-type" bullshit!

Michael needs to give us his own Musicology! cool

Or even better (or worse), Michael & Dr. Dre could form an unholy allience for the the remake of They Don't Care About Us.
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Reply #224 posted 06/13/05 10:40pm

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sosgemini said:

Sdldawn said:

How we put these icons on a foot stool, and let them do the things that norms cant.. what a role model.




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bingo...

and im really disgusted by all these people celebrating as if todays jury decision was a good thing...

no, it wasnt a good thing to celebrate..this is a somber moment and im glad at least the jackson family treated it as such and walked away, heads down, back into their caravan and back the fuck home.....

i hope mj, his family and his fans really think about what happened here....we have children who are being abused by either mj (not sexually) but mentally by acting like a child and sucking their own childhoods from them, greedy parents and a hungry and disgusting media....

this kid (and the others before him) has lost his own childhood now..he will always be the "freak who slept with mj".....hor ironic that mj sucked out of this boy the very thing he lost himself...mj should feel ashamed.....and his fans should feel ashamed for jumping up and celebrating what should be considered a pathetic day for a family who should be remembered for their talent...not their freakish behaviors...

disbelief





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Reply #225 posted 06/13/05 10:50pm

whodknee

I have the same feeling I had with O.J. and Robert Blake being acquitted-- nothing. I'm not sure if they actually did it or not and I'll never know. I only hope that they are truly innocent and that nobody gets hurt in the future at the hands of these men.

I do feel good for SOME of the MJ fans-- not those who have convinced themselves this was all a conspiracy to get MJ with no merit to it. Regardless of the reasons for prosecuting him there was compelling evidence against MJ. However, from what I know there was indeed reasonable doubt and the right verdict was given.

Now, if Michael ever has a sleepover with another child he should be locked up without a trial. I pray he has learned his lesson and gets on with his life. Hopefully he'll get help first and then worry about music later.
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Reply #226 posted 06/13/05 10:50pm

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TonyVanDam said:

No more of this "Heal the world for the lost children, liveaid-like, earth theme song-type" bullshit!


I hear ya! It's time for some funk dammitt!!
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Reply #227 posted 06/13/05 10:51pm

JohnP

vainandy said:

I just saw "Larry King Live" and one of the jurors was interviewed. This juror said he personally believed that Michael was guilty of molesting a child in the past but for this particular case, there was no evidence to convict him. He said he didn't believe a 46 year old man could sleep with a young boy for 365 days and strictly eat popcorn and watch TV.


yep.... paedo. i was so looking forward to some conclusive evidence that MJ was not guilty, but there is none. it's far more likely that MJ did it based on the bold text alone.
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Reply #228 posted 06/13/05 10:53pm

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

dreamfactory313 said:

The US Justice system WORKS!

no, it doesn't.


US Justice System only works for you if you have money! wink
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Reply #229 posted 06/13/05 10:54pm

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Fauxie said:

Tiffypoo2004 said:



yes wink



omg, what did he do????



fauxie, I love you!! mushy
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Reply #230 posted 06/13/05 10:55pm

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vainandy said:

TonyVanDam said:

No more of this "Heal the world for the lost children, liveaid-like, earth theme song-type" bullshit!


I hear ya! It's time for some funk dammitt!!



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Reply #231 posted 06/13/05 10:58pm

purpledoveuk

rudeboynpg said:

purpledoveuk said:




Politically yes...but a guilty man has walked free...guilty of EXACTLY what remains unknown


Found NOT GUILTY. Maybe, just maybe, he is INNOCENT!



On the sex abuse charges then he PROBABLY didnt do it...certainly not on that evidence.

But the alcohol charges????? Guilty as a badger, its beyond me how he didnt get anything for that.

The man tell the world that he doesnt drink alcohol and then justifies all the booxe at neverland as for his own personal use...something doesnt add up there.
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Reply #232 posted 06/13/05 11:00pm

JohnP

TonyVanDam said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


no, it doesn't.


US Justice System only works for you if you have money! wink


Yep, just like that poor excuse for a health-system. A system which asks $100 USD for medication which in Australia I get for $3 USD. Pa-fucking-thetic. I hate the US "System", period.
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Reply #233 posted 06/13/05 11:02pm

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oh my god...this bitch threw out doves while the innocent verdicts were coming out?

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Reply #234 posted 06/13/05 11:09pm

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That juror is a dummy. He didn't believe Gavin. He didn't believe that Jason kid. So who is left to believe? Jordy? That little fuck didn't even show up to make sure his "molestor" was put away for good. What a joke.

And I can't believe some of you still think he could be guilty. He is obviously innocent of these charges based on the Arvizo family's testimony alone. Shows you haven't followed the case that closely.
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Reply #235 posted 06/13/05 11:12pm

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sosgemini said:

oh my god...this bitch threw out doves while the innocent verdicts were coming out?

falloff


lol I saw that crazy bitch. There were some loony toons out there. One guy was absolutely crying his eyes out. If he's that wrapped up in some entertainer's problems, I would hate to see how he would react with problems in his own family. He would probably lose his damn mind. lol
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Reply #236 posted 06/13/05 11:14pm

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WildStyle said:

That juror is a dummy. He didn't believe Gavin. He didn't believe that Jason kid. So who is left to believe? Jordy? That little fuck didn't even show up to make sure his "molestor" was put away for good. What a joke.

And I can't believe some of you still think he could be guilty. He is obviously innocent of these charges based on the Arvizo family's testimony alone. Shows you haven't followed the case that closely.



So touching to see you refer to some kid as a "little fuck" just because he didn't show up to face his molester. Have you been molested? Have you ever had to face someone like that? Some adults still can't do it.
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Reply #237 posted 06/13/05 11:17pm

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vainandy said:



lol I saw that crazy bitch. There were some loony toons out there. One guy was absolutely crying his eyes out. If he's that wrapped up in some entertainer's problems, I would hate to see how he would react with problems in his own family. He would probably lose his damn mind. lol


Most of those people (Michael's fans) came all the way from Europe! neutral
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Reply #238 posted 06/13/05 11:31pm

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sosgemini said:

oh my god...this bitch threw out doves while the innocent verdicts were coming out?

falloff




lol lol lol
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Reply #239 posted 06/13/05 11:47pm

DavidEye

Good for Michael! Hopefully,he can get his life back on track.The prosecution had a very weak case to begin with,not to mention all the credibility problems with the kid's family.
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