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Reply #150 posted 06/13/05 6:34pm

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I think the mother of the victim is to blame for Michael Jackson walking because she is a money hungry con artist. She has gotten what she deserved (which is nothing) because of her greed. However, if Michael Jackson did molest this boy, she is also to blame for letting her son sleep with Michael and for being such a money hungry gold digger. It would be very easy for Michael to molest this boy and get away with it because who would ever believe a piece of money hungry trash like this boy's mother.

I personally believe he is guilty but could not be proven guilty. When they found porn in the house, that convinced me. The fact that he owns porn, means that he does have a sex drive so who is he using this drive on? He's never seen with men, he's never seen with women either. He's only seen with young boys. You can only look at porn for so long until you actually want to have some sort of sex. I used to wonder if he was asexual but the possession of the porn proves to me that he does have sexual urges just like everyone else.

Knowing now, that he has sexual urges, owns porn, and has liquor in the house (all of which are adult things), I don't buy the fact that he is a grown man that "never grew up" so he could very innocently sleep in the same bed with a boy in his underwear. I could have believed it before, but I can't now.

I don't blame the jury though because they did their job. He could not be proven guilty.
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Reply #151 posted 06/13/05 6:38pm

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How we put these icons on a foot stool, and let them do the things that norms cant.. what a role model.




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bingo...

and im really disgusted by all these people celebrating as if todays jury decision was a good thing...

no, it wasnt a good thing to celebrate..this is a somber moment and im glad at least the jackson family treated it as such and walked away, heads down, back into their caravan and back the fuck home.....

i hope mj, his family and his fans really think about what happened here....we have children who are being abused by either mj (not sexually) but mentally by acting like a child and sucking their own childhoods from them, greedy parents and a hungry and disgusting media....

this kid (and the others before him) has lost his own childhood now..he will always be the "freak who slept with mj".....hor ironic that mj sucked out of this boy the very thing he lost himself...mj should feel ashamed.....and his fans should feel ashamed for jumping up and celebrating what should be considered a pathetic day for a family who should be remembered for their talent...not their freakish behaviors...

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Reply #152 posted 06/13/05 6:40pm

GeminiMoon

thankgod a'mighty! jackson is innocent. clapping
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Reply #153 posted 06/13/05 6:49pm

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sosgemini said:

Sdldawn said:

How we put these icons on a foot stool, and let them do the things that norms cant.. what a role model.




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bingo...

and im really disgusted by all these people celebrating as if todays jury decision was a good thing...

no, it wasnt a good thing to celebrate..this is a somber moment and im glad at least the jackson family treated it as such and walked away, heads down, back into their caravan and back the fuck home.....

i hope mj, his family and his fans really think about what happened here....we have children who are being abused by either mj (not sexually) but mentally by acting like a child and sucking their own childhoods from them, greedy parents and a hungry and disgusting media....

this kid (and the others before him) has lost his own childhood now..he will always be the "freak who slept with mj".....hor ironic that mj sucked out of this boy the very thing he lost himself...mj should feel ashamed.....and his fans should feel ashamed for jumping up and celebrating what should be considered a pathetic day for a family who should be remembered for their talent...not their freakish behaviors...

disbelief

clapping Thank you for speaking the truth. Like I said before this is a sad event and people so many people, especially the MJ fans don't seem to realize this. The more coverage I see of this case, the sadder I get.
sad
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Reply #154 posted 06/13/05 6:53pm

Tiffypoo2004

purplecam said:

sosgemini said:



bingo...

and im really disgusted by all these people celebrating as if todays jury decision was a good thing...

no, it wasnt a good thing to celebrate..this is a somber moment and im glad at least the jackson family treated it as such and walked away, heads down, back into their caravan and back the fuck home.....

i hope mj, his family and his fans really think about what happened here....we have children who are being abused by either mj (not sexually) but mentally by acting like a child and sucking their own childhoods from them, greedy parents and a hungry and disgusting media....

this kid (and the others before him) has lost his own childhood now..he will always be the "freak who slept with mj".....hor ironic that mj sucked out of this boy the very thing he lost himself...mj should feel ashamed.....and his fans should feel ashamed for jumping up and celebrating what should be considered a pathetic day for a family who should be remembered for their talent...not their freakish behaviors...

disbelief

clapping Thank you for speaking the truth. Like I said before this is a sad event and people so many people, especially the MJ fans don't seem to realize this. The more coverage I see of this case, the sadder I get.
sad


is sad because mj was found innocent i dont understand. oh well am still gonna celebrate mj's victory whoo hoo lol
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Reply #155 posted 06/13/05 6:55pm

GeminiMoon

I dont get it either. Why should I feel sad?
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Reply #156 posted 06/13/05 6:55pm

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GeminiMoon said:

I dont get it either. Why should I feel sad?


innocence lost should never be celebrated....
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Reply #157 posted 06/13/05 7:00pm

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Poll from MSNBC - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8051786/

What this shows us is how divided our country is and in a sense - Micheal is already defeated.

I mean, it's all about public opinion. Like Kobe Bryant - he was found innocent but look at his career sense then - no endorsements at all, Shaq left team, Lakers then suck,etc. The same thing has already happened to Mike's carrer. He would have to show a complete 360 character turn to get people in his favor again.

He will never sell in the US - unless he can appeal to the kids who listen to the likes of Usher and Beyonce..ok, i'm totally done on this topic.

Good night everyone....we eventually have 2 find something else to chat about.

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Reply #158 posted 06/13/05 7:08pm

SassyBritches

you know what? some of you are so full of shit i can't even bear it.

please drop the self righteous crap just because some are thrilled that mike is not going to jail. yes, the whole ordeal is sad and yes, the whole ordeal is a travesty. nobody is denying that. just because people are glad mj is not going to jail doesn't mean thay are celebrating the trial or the entire circus show that it was.

everybody knows its a disgrace what this child was put through (either way). everyone has said this time and time again.

if you don't agree with the verdict, great...let's discuss why. what has the prosecution provided to the jury that should guarantee a "guilty" verdict? why do you think the jury should have come back with a different verdict? how, exactly, did the justice system fail today? it seems to me that it worked the way it should. this was a criminal case and not a civil case. a preponderance of guilt is not enough...it must be beyond a reasonable doubt. in my opinin, and the jury's, there was certainly enough reasonable doubt.

its great to have your own opinions and its even better if you can back them up with reason but, please, do us all a favor and drop the holier than thou attitude.
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Reply #159 posted 06/13/05 7:08pm

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Tiffypoo2004 said:

purplecam said:


clapping Thank you for speaking the truth. Like I said before this is a sad event and people so many people, especially the MJ fans don't seem to realize this. The more coverage I see of this case, the sadder I get.
sad


is sad because mj was found innocent i dont understand. oh well am still gonna celebrate mj's victory whoo hoo lol

I'm not sad because he was found innocent. The jury did their job and I'm not mad at them at all. The verdict was right. I'm sad because with him found not guilty, it means he never should have gone through this. I'm scared that he won't change his ways because of the verdict too. I'm scared that he won't get the help that he needs (not to say that jail was the answer) and if something bad happens like this again, he'll think that the verdict justified his actions. Maybe it's bullshit, I don't know. Personally, it's sad to see someone who I used to love be in a predicament like this guilty or not. But with it all, I hope that when he's ready to drop a new album, it's a kickass one. We all could use it.
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Reply #160 posted 06/13/05 7:17pm

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Jermaine.. Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin!

If you havent heard the Chris Rock skit on the crazy Jacksons from his last HBO special and Cd, you gotta check it out. It's so true.. "Another kid, I'm done! I loved MJ all my life, but am having a real tough time seperating his music from his sick personal life..

I found this funny news article on the Onion, that says the "real" Michael Jackson corpse was found dead on Neverland Ranch. This white guy calling himself Michael Jackson is a FRAUD!

see below

Neverland Ranch Investigators Discover Corpse Of Real Michael Jackson
SANTA BARBARA, CA—During a search for evidence at the Neverland Valley Ranch, investigators discovered a corpse that has been identified as that of Michael Jackson, Santa Barbara police officials announced Tuesday.
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Reply #161 posted 06/13/05 7:19pm

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SassyBritches said:

you know what? some of you are so full of shit i can't even bear it.

please drop the self righteous crap just because some are thrilled that mike is not going to jail. yes, the whole ordeal is sad and yes, the whole ordeal is a travesty. nobody is denying that. just because people are glad mj is not going to jail doesn't mean thay are celebrating the trial or the entire circus show that it was.

everybody knows its a disgrace what this child was put through (either way). everyone has said this time and time again.

if you don't agree with the verdict, great...let's discuss why. what has the prosecution provided to the jury that should guarantee a "guilty" verdict? why do you think the jury should have come back with a different verdict? how, exactly, did the justice system fail today? it seems to me that it worked the way it should. this was a criminal case and not a civil case. a preponderance of guilt is not enough...it must be beyond a reasonable doubt. in my opinin, and the jury's, there was certainly enough reasonable doubt.

its great to have your own opinions and its even better if you can back them up with reason but, please, do us all a favor and drop the holier than thou attitude.



(for the record..i support the verdict....but i still have a sense of perspective...one that seems to correspond with the jackson family..hence them *not* making grandstand speeches after the verdict ala OJ and robert blake...unlike mj's fans calling this a day parrallel to MLK's b-day and Nelson Mandela being free? please!!)
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Reply #162 posted 06/13/05 7:22pm

SassyBritches

sosgemini said:

(for the record..i support the verdict....but i still have a sense of perspective...one that seems to correspond with the jackson family..hence them *not* making grandstand speeches after the verdict ala OJ and robert blake...unlike mj's fans calling this a day parrallel to MLK's b-day and Nelson Mandela being free? please!!)

haven't been to mj's official site, www.mjjsource.com , have you? where do you think those folks got the notion of comparing it to mlk's birthday and nelson mandela's day of release?

and there's NOTHING wrong with a person celebrating their acquittal. most of us, whether we admit it or not, would do the very same thing if we were in those shoes. what's wrong with saying "i told you so" when the entire us media had him pegged as guilty?
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Reply #163 posted 06/13/05 7:31pm

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Michael Who???

Prince and the NPG are the best!!! biggrin
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Reply #164 posted 06/13/05 7:31pm

ELBOOGY

I'm glad! It was a witchhunt but MJ better change his stance on the whole sleepover thing. He needs 2 regroup, get healthy and come back with a kickass album with real music played by real musicians. Not that hot producer of the moment bullshit!
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Reply #165 posted 06/13/05 7:33pm

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and if his family had any kind of sense they would get that freak some fuckin couseling....he is clearly not well.
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
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Reply #166 posted 06/13/05 7:34pm

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Vegas breathes a sigh of relief.



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Reply #167 posted 06/13/05 7:34pm

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Whatever the verdict, Jackson is not innocent. Any 46 y.o. man that has a closet full of naked kiddie pictures and sleeps with an array of pre-teen boys is not innocent, regardless of whether he's caught fondling them or not. He's a sick fuck.

Did anyone watch Nancy Grace on Headline News tonight? Good show. The truth is, the jury acquitted him because they thought (and rightly so) that the accuser's mother was an opportunistic grifter.

Did anyone hear the comments of the jurors afterward? Very telling.
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Reply #168 posted 06/13/05 7:34pm

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boriquateddy said:

and if his family had any kind of sense they would get that freak some fuckin couseling....he is clearly not well.


thank you!
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Reply #169 posted 06/13/05 7:38pm

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vainandy said:

I think the mother of the victim is to blame for Michael Jackson walking because she is a money hungry con artist. She has gotten what she deserved (which is nothing) because of her greed. However, if Michael Jackson did molest this boy, she is also to blame for letting her son sleep with Michael and for being such a money hungry gold digger. It would be very easy for Michael to molest this boy and get away with it because who would ever believe a piece of money hungry trash like this boy's mother.

I personally believe he is guilty but could not be proven guilty. When they found porn in the house, that convinced me. The fact that he owns porn, means that he does have a sex drive so who is he using this drive on? He's never seen with men, he's never seen with women either. He's only seen with young boys. You can only look at porn for so long until you actually want to have some sort of sex. I used to wonder if he was asexual but the possession of the porn proves to me that he does have sexual urges just like everyone else.

Knowing now, that he has sexual urges, owns porn, and has liquor in the house (all of which are adult things), I don't buy the fact that he is a grown man that "never grew up" so he could very innocently sleep in the same bed with a boy in his underwear. I could have believed it before, but I can't now.

I don't blame the jury though because they did their job. He could not be proven guilty.





I totally agree with your whole statement.
I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back.
I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there.
I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish.
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Reply #170 posted 06/13/05 7:41pm

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Whatever the verdict, Jackson is not innocent. Any 46 y.o. man that has a closet full of naked kiddie pictures and sleeps with an array of pre-teen boys is not innocent, regardless of whether he's caught fondling them or not. He's a sick fuck.

Did anyone watch Nancy Grace on Headline News tonight? Good show. The truth is, the jury acquitted him because they thought (and rightly so) that the accuser's mother was an opportunistic grifter.

Did anyone hear the comments of the jurors afterward? Very telling.

A closet full. Don't believe that shit until they show it. And Nancy Grace's ass is full of shit.
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Reply #171 posted 06/13/05 7:42pm

SassyBritches

Xagain said:

Whatever the verdict, Jackson is not innocent. Any 46 y.o. man that has a closet full of naked kiddie pictures and sleeps with an array of pre-teen boys is not innocent, regardless of whether he's caught fondling them or not. He's a sick fuck.

Did anyone watch Nancy Grace on Headline News tonight? Good show. The truth is, the jury acquitted him because they thought (and rightly so) that the accuser's mother was an opportunistic grifter.

Did anyone hear the comments of the jurors afterward? Very telling.

i'm watching her now and the foreman has clearly said that while the mother's testimony was damaging to the prosecution's case, he has said (several times already) that the prosecution simply did not present a thorough case. he has said, over and over, that they were left wanting more info; he said they were never given enough evidence to convict.

yes, the comments were very telling indeed. they told of the prosecution's weak case.
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Reply #172 posted 06/13/05 7:45pm

SassyBritches

ELBOOGY said:

Xagain said:

Whatever the verdict, Jackson is not innocent. Any 46 y.o. man that has a closet full of naked kiddie pictures and sleeps with an array of pre-teen boys is not innocent, regardless of whether he's caught fondling them or not. He's a sick fuck.

Did anyone watch Nancy Grace on Headline News tonight? Good show. The truth is, the jury acquitted him because they thought (and rightly so) that the accuser's mother was an opportunistic grifter.

Did anyone hear the comments of the jurors afterward? Very telling.

A closet full. Don't believe that shit until they show it. And Nancy Grace's ass is full of shit.

nancy grace is a dis-grace to the criminal justice system. she lacks any form of objectivity and believes that anyone convicted of a crime is guilty of that crime. she bases her opinions on the fact that her fiance was murdered and the grief is what does all her speaking. one may want to ask why she stopped prosecuting. this is a woman who said mj was guilty before any evidence was even discussed in trial. that says enough about her.

if i didn't enjoy yelling at the tv i would not have watched this cow. now that jackson's case is over i will be done with her program.
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Reply #173 posted 06/13/05 7:46pm

ELBOOGY

The prosecution's case was weak bcuz they did'nt have 1 from the start!
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Reply #174 posted 06/13/05 7:47pm

Tiffypoo2004

SassyBritches said:

Xagain said:

Whatever the verdict, Jackson is not innocent. Any 46 y.o. man that has a closet full of naked kiddie pictures and sleeps with an array of pre-teen boys is not innocent, regardless of whether he's caught fondling them or not. He's a sick fuck.

Did anyone watch Nancy Grace on Headline News tonight? Good show. The truth is, the jury acquitted him because they thought (and rightly so) that the accuser's mother was an opportunistic grifter.

Did anyone hear the comments of the jurors afterward? Very telling.

i'm watching her now and the foreman has clearly said that while the mother's testimony was damaging to the prosecution's case, he has said (several times already) that the prosecution simply did not present a thorough case. he has said, over and over, that they were left wanting more info; he said they were never given enough evidence to convict.

yes, the comments were very telling indeed. they told of the prosecution's

weak case.



thats right people still trying to bring mj down but u know what it aint gonna happen the case was proven without a reasonable doubt that michael is acquitted on all charges. plus the boy and his mother are lying bastards and con artists( the boy's mother anyway). yeah i said it and am not taking it back either. neutral
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Reply #175 posted 06/13/05 7:52pm

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SassyBritches said:

Xagain said:

Whatever the verdict, Jackson is not innocent. Any 46 y.o. man that has a closet full of naked kiddie pictures and sleeps with an array of pre-teen boys is not innocent, regardless of whether he's caught fondling them or not. He's a sick fuck.

Did anyone watch Nancy Grace on Headline News tonight? Good show. The truth is, the jury acquitted him because they thought (and rightly so) that the accuser's mother was an opportunistic grifter.

Did anyone hear the comments of the jurors afterward? Very telling.

i'm watching her now and the foreman has clearly said that while the mother's testimony was damaging to the prosecution's case, he has said (several times already) that the prosecution simply did not present a thorough case. he has said, over and over, that they were left wanting more info; he said they were never given enough evidence to convict.

yes, the comments were very telling indeed. they told of the prosecution's weak case.


What are you talking about? The juror saying "What mother would allow this to go on?" WHAT to go on, if he's innocent? Or the juror saying that "He wasn't on trial for possession of child porn." Clearly, it was not a weak case. Jackson is an 46-yo man who regularly sleeps with a plethora of pre-teen boys. If this were a man in your neighborhood, would you say it was a weak case?

And what kind of proof do you think exists in a molestation case? A blue dress? Unless a pedophile is caught in the act, there's almost never any evidence.

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't all ready to hang him right away. But when he wasn't even convicted of giving alcohol to minors, something that witnesses even testified to helping him do, clearly justice was not served.

And whatever about Nancy Grace. She is a smart chic that says some hard truths and has balls of steel.

If Jackson was the guy next door, he would't have stood a chance. But the accuser's mom was a bitch. And a freak. She pissed off the jury, and that's what swung it.
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Reply #176 posted 06/13/05 7:53pm

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ELBOOGY said:

Xagain said:

Whatever the verdict, Jackson is not innocent. Any 46 y.o. man that has a closet full of naked kiddie pictures and sleeps with an array of pre-teen boys is not innocent, regardless of whether he's caught fondling them or not. He's a sick fuck.

Did anyone watch Nancy Grace on Headline News tonight? Good show. The truth is, the jury acquitted him because they thought (and rightly so) that the accuser's mother was an opportunistic grifter.

Did anyone hear the comments of the jurors afterward? Very telling.

A closet full. Don't believe that shit until they show it. And Nancy Grace's ass is full of shit.


yes full of shit. yes i believe it when i sees it until then i dont believe none of that shit. mj innocent the juror says so and "God" says so too.
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Reply #177 posted 06/13/05 7:55pm

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Tiffypoo2004 said:

ELBOOGY said:


A closet full. Don't believe that shit until they show it. And Nancy Grace's ass is full of shit.


yes full of shit. yes i believe it when i sees it until then i dont believe none of that shit. mj innocent the juror says so and "God" says so too.


God says so? confused

And yes, it's true about the porn. You're just being ridiculous if you don't believe that. It's documented evidence.
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Reply #178 posted 06/13/05 7:58pm

Tiffypoo2004

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Tiffypoo2004 said:



yes full of shit. yes i believe it when i sees it until then i dont believe none of that shit. mj innocent the juror says so and "God" says so too.


God says so? confused

And yes, it's true about the porn. You're just being ridiculous if you don't believe that. It's documented evidence.


yes maybe the porn and shit but that wasnt a crime as they had said but other then that mj's innocent still.
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Reply #179 posted 06/13/05 8:01pm

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Xagain said:

SassyBritches said:


i'm watching her now and the foreman has clearly said that while the mother's testimony was damaging to the prosecution's case, he has said (several times already) that the prosecution simply did not present a thorough case. he has said, over and over, that they were left wanting more info; he said they were never given enough evidence to convict.

yes, the comments were very telling indeed. they told of the prosecution's weak case.


What are you talking about? The juror saying "What mother would allow this to go on?" WHAT to go on, if he's innocent? Or the juror saying that "He wasn't on trial for possession of child porn." Clearly, it was not a weak case. Jackson is an 46-yo man who regularly sleeps with a plethora of pre-teen boys. If this were a man in your neighborhood, would you say it was a weak case?

And what kind of proof do you think exists in a molestation case? A blue dress? Unless a pedophile is caught in the act, there's almost never any evidence.

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't all ready to hang him right away. But when he wasn't even convicted of giving alcohol to minors, something that witnesses even testified to helping him do, clearly justice was not served.

And whatever about Nancy Grace. She is a smart chic that says some hard truths and has balls of steel.

If Jackson was the guy next door, he would't have stood a chance. But the accuser's mom was a bitch. And a freak. She pissed off the jury, and that's what swung it.

Some people want Jackson to be guilty so bad. Its almost sick how bad some people want Michael to fry.
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