Aint no denying this kid was the pretender back in the day. No usher comparisons, but u can see lil' usher idolising bobby a lil'. Usher wants to be street too, just like bobby was.


Then Whitney had to marry him after the boo's she got at soul train They fuck'd eachother up literally


"Dont be cruel" beats virtually any rnb labum of the 80's. Easily one of the best rnb albums of the 80's.

The slick, glossy followup "bobby" is my preferred fav though. Production is too slick, but going back to it now, it holds well. Songs like "good enough", "two can play that game" "get away", they are hot songs.

I always loved bobby's voice too. Easily one of the best.

(ok, so I lied about the title )
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Was this the gospel according to Whitney? didn't she already give him the title "the original r&b king"?

twink69 said:

No, no - you meant kang.

That album was in my walkman for the entire year of 1988...the album hasn't aged well though.

twink69 said:

bobby is great. Not like Iam talking him up. "dont be cruel" was one of the most important rnb albums of the 80's.

lilgish said:

Yeah buts its the blueprint of most rnb of the 90's.

thesexofit said:

Is that a good thing?

twink69 said:

Yeah I guess. Usher uses the same formula and his records aint bad.

If bobby wouldn't of commercialized newjack, then we still be getting anita baker and sade singing us to sleep with their yuppie, snobby, middle class soul.

thesexofit said:

thesexofit said:

I like both of them, but that still cracks me up.

thesexofit said:

The sound, not the album, was the blueprint of early 90's randb. by 93/94 the sound was dying.

thesexofit said:

Never quite heard it put that way.

RipHer2Shreds said:

? They just bore me. They aint aimed at kids really, and that was the problem with rnb at that time. The new kids on the block were rap and newjack in the 80's. Newjack fused rap beats with melodic chorus' and verses. Its hard to define newjack, and the importance it had. But it definately was more then a stopgap between rap and hiphop soul!
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thesexofit said:

Anita is anything but yuppie, Sade on the other hand is very much bourgeois fare.

lilgish said:

I can take some whitney, even if I did grow up poor (whitney was obviously not aimed at the hood).


I loved the fashions and positivity cats like teddy, boody, al b sure! had. The dancing, the clothes, even "in living color" had a definate newjack feel. As did "new jack city". Mary J progressed the sound, as did jodeci and r kelly. Which was great, but I would like to see a book on newjack. Just 1 book damnit!

thesexofit said:

I saw Tommy Davidson the other day.

thesexofit said:

QUIET STORM will make a comeback!

twink69 said:

I love quiet storm....

boriquateddy said:

Me too.

Oh, bobby could rap too. Can usher or anyone else? Even justin got some average bum for his "like I love u" track. Bobby can rap too. Like on "dont be cruel" and "get away" and of course "she ain't worth it".

So funny that you started this thread cuz I was listening to B. Brown earlier today and thought to myself how talented he was. He was on Fire in the 80's and 90's. It sad to see what became of him. Do you think he has a chance to restart his career? I think he can but he just wouldn't be as popular as he once was.

dancerella said:

I heard he is making an album. 1997's "forever" bombed. It was all ballads, quiet storm and lacking anything that stood out. It didn't have any proper producers.

Bobby is a bit more then 2 albums and a killer remix cd too.




"girlfriend" is sooooo cheesy and NE inspired, BUT even with that corny assed video (that I got!), it makes me feel good. "girl next door" is cameo funky (thanx to larry) and the title track is fun too.



The last true album he was part of was 1993's bomb "b brown posse". He found some local acts. Not as bad as u think. "drop it on the one" (which was a single) is a good, hard swing tune. Also the mid tempo "where did the love go" by someone called harold travis, is a hidden gem of a track. Both are worth finding.

signaled the end of newjack, but it got a few good tracks.

thesexofit said:

Oh, this must be the cover of Ass Tickler magazine.
Congrats Bobby!!!

sitruk7 said:

huh? Is that a gay mag or something

No, just a sad attempt to capitalize on Bobby and Whitney's nastiness from another thread. If you don't know, you don't wanna know!!!

sitruk7 said:

I proberly do know. In the past on here, people always bitched about bobby and little about whitney, who was apparantly into hard drugs before bobby.

Only a couple appreciate him musically, which is fine, but the today bobby makes people forget how good and freah bobby was in his prime. He moved rnb on.

lilgish said:

I would love to get my hands on a New Jack compilation CD.Bobby,Guy,Teddy,Al B.Sure,yada yada....

larryluvlife said:

Ahh, the good old days of New Jack Swing.

although he doesn't get my vote of the greatest entertainer of all time, i will say that don't be cruel was the shit. hmmm don't be cruel, my perogative, roni, rock with you, every little step..... good gawd that was the album. i liked guy's 1st album as well as keith sweat's so i can't even say b brown's was my favorite of the late 80s. it still gets a lot of play in my house. i like bobby's greatest hits cd too.

larryluvlife said:

http://www.amazon.com/exe...59-4637506


This is a good buy. Cheap too. Though for some reason, mary j blige "real love" is on there?

Good to see silk on their with "baby its you". A summer breezer and a good dance track. Good choices

Though they need timmy gatlings "cheatin'", thats the cut right their!