vainandy said:

Down Low Brothas are ANY brothas that have fronted as being Hetero but enjoy the male Hershey Highway. Maxy would be considered a Dow Lown Brotha if he came "out."

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

I never said lesbians where put on this Earth to entertain str8 men. But is it my fault if they chose to do it willingfully?

vainandy said:

Dawg, dont even dare try to compare sexuality to race. Its funny, I cant even say I accept y'all in society as ordinary people without y'all tripping. LOL!

vainandy said:

First of, how do the hell you gonna say I dont respect women? Dont even come at me with that bullshit. You seriously got it twisted. I dont know how the fuck you the idea that I feel women were put on this Earth to entertain man. Why are y'all making all of these goddamn assumptions? Yeah, I might like to watch porn, but that doesnt mean I feel all female women are objects but is it my fault that they choose to do what they do? No.

And since we're on the subject of respecting women, last time I called used the word "bitches", (at the time I believe I was talkin about the girls in x-rated music vidoes who exploit themselves), alot of females on this board came down on me hard. But now you're calling them "bitches" so I'd expect to see the same results.



And you really think I dont know that? LOL! You aint schoolin nobody. But just so you know, you dont know what the fuck is going universally cause some of that shit you're that doesnt happen in real life acutally DOES happen in real life - you're just buying to the stereotypes.

Sounds like maybe you just have a problem with heterosexuals in general. Look, Im into females, so I have no problem seeing two of them get intimate at all. Im NOT into guys at all. I didn't say two guys going at it is sick and disgusting, I said I find it sick and disgusting, meaning thats how I feel. You feel differently and thats alright, but you need to understand and respect my opinion and my perference, and leave it at that. Believe it or not, there are people in the world who dont like to see at sex at all - does that make them "sex-phobic"?



Did I ever say gay people didnt have a right to flaunt their shit like str8 on TV? No. I just said I dont wanna see it, meaning I'd rather change the channel but you have a problem respecting that. And personally I dont give a fuck what gay people think, I dont know why you're tellin me. But why do y'all have problem with what I dont want my eyes to see?

Now back to the beginning how this all started, I didnt say Maxwell shouldnt sing about another man, I just said I didnt wanna hear it. I didnt I would never listen to his shit again or that I would lose respect for him. That should not even qualify me as being homophobic. I dont discriminated against gay people, I dont dispise gay people and I aint scared of gay people.

I wasnt my intentions for this threat to turn into diaster but it wasnt my fault wither. Y'all just are sensitive, paranoid, jump to conclusions and make too many false assumptions. Ive explained my self the best way I can all throughout this thread and cant tell me that I aint making any sense cause I am, but y'all are just gonna take shit out of context and pick on something that aint even there.

Im always outnumbered on these threads. There's never enough people who feel the way I do or liek what the things/music that I like to back me up cause there really aint many of them on this board to begin with. So when y'all wanna insult my intelligence and not respect respect opinions, I rebel against that and I find myself in the center of another heated discussion, and I get blamed for it. So whats the use? I aint no psychic, but I already now the outcome and I cant win. Its pointless to me. So Im done. So say whatever you will after this, say whatever helps you sleep at night, but the end of the day, you're WRONG about me.
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NeoSoulScribe said:

ABeautifulOne said:

Those who are oblivious to whats the real deal like yourself are hilarious. While others do actully have a real radar and know the deal. Keep fooling yourself and that's all I have to say.

TonyVanDam said:

Hotlegs said:

Not necessarily. If Maxwell came "out" at this point in his life and is having intimate/sexual relations ONLY with men, then he would be considered a gay black man.

MsLegs said:

IM STILL SHOCKED!!!!!


Maxwell...gay!!!!???






HE JUST MADE MORE OF A FAN OUT OF ME!!!!!

PrettyMan72 said:

Well yeah. ONLY if it were with men.

The whole thing about Luther isn't exactly a secret.
I feel sorry for any singer "hiding" in the closet because their record company thinks it would be prudent to do so. It's time the American music industry woke up and stopped doing this shit. Things are different in the UK, thank God. Well, for the most part, excepting a singer by the initials of CD...not that I'll fill you in...

jjam said:

I agree with you totally.

vainandy said:

OMG, that was beautiful

Xavier23 said:

now ya'll be nice to Jugo de cebolla....

boriquateddy said:

Si

OnionJuice said:

Well here's a novel solution for you: DON'T LISTEN TO IT. There - all better?

jjam said:

Charlie Daniels?

VoicesCarry said:

Did you even bother reading what I said in my very first post on this thread? Cause you sound real ignorant.
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Maxwell, gay? I think it's time the R&B/hip hop/black community embraced gay culture. Rappers have rapped about nasty lesbos. hell, gay men are HOT, popular, and will they always be around! White rockers have no probs coming out, so lets hear some bump N grinds about black Adam and black Steve for a change.

BlaqueKnight said:

so what? If Goerge Micheal wasn't forced out of the closet in 1998, he admitted he'd still be in it publicly.

GlamorousSlammer said:

I repeat: Maxwell is about as gay as Prince.

BlaqueKnight said:

Soooo..... is he gay?

Nah, but seriously though. How do you know what he is?
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whodknee said:

We'll find out the deal when this records released. As for the Prince example, we really can't even go there especially now.

BlaqueKnight said:

Aw damn! Poor Ananda - STILL takin' shots after Diddy...and...

OnionJuice said:

Why the fuck are you insulting me? I never did so to you. You keep whining throughout this thread about the possibility this music might turn you off, so there you are. There's your option if you don't want to appear homophobic: listen or don't, but don't complain about the path that Maxwell has decided to take because you find his overt sexuality "disgusting". Thanks.

I am well aware that there are lesbians out there that sleep with men. There are some in my area. They are very rare though. Most of them have more pride than that. The fact that the porno industry is constantly showing two women together, is the reason these trade motherfuckers come to the gay clubs in the first place. They are constantly in the lesbians' faces bothering them all night long. When they are not successful, then they go after the drag queens (but they don't let anyone see them go after them). As a last resort, then they will go after a gay man that doesn't dress in drag. A mouth is a mouth and an orgasm feels the same no matter who's giving to them.

As far as stereotypes go, I'm very aware of them also. Gay people are just like straight people. There are many different types varying from extremely masculine to extremely feminine. The media just doesn't let you see the gay people that appear to be close to their version of "normal" because they want to keep homosexuals as a freak show to give them a good laugh.




I don't have a problem with heterosexuals at all. If it weren't for them, I would have never been born. I'm not about to kiss their ass though. I don't ask and beg for their respect. I shouldn't have to. They don't ask and beg for mine. I demand respect and if they hate me for it, I don't give a damn. Hell, you can't be liked by everyone.




I understand and respect your preference but if you have watched two women together in porn, you have also seen the other scenes in the same movies that feature a man and a woman. The camera is zoomed in close on the man's dick while the woman is sucking it. I'm sure that probably doesn't make you sick because you are watching porn to begin with. If it were a man doing the same thing to another man on the screen, I could see it looking awkward to you. That's only natural because society has made it so taboo for so many years. It probably wouldn't turn you on but I seriously doubt that you would become physically sick.




Now you see how gay people have felt for years....outnumbered and disrespected.




The fact that you are defending yourself about being accused of being homophobic means you're an alright person. A real homophobic person wouldn't give a damn if people thought they were homophobic....and believe me, I've met plenty of people like that. If I thought you were a 100% homophobic gay basher, I wouldn't waste my time responding to you. I would have just said what I had to say and wouldn't have given a damn if you liked it or not.

How could he be a down low man if he came out? The reason they are called "down low" men is because they keep what they do on the down low. If he came out, he would be in the open with it. That would either make him a gay man or a bisexual man. Down low men keep what they do a secret.

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OK U better say that shit!!!! hit the nail right on the head

vainandy said:

Yes, IF he comes out he's no longer Down Low but he was a PRACTICING DOWN LOW BROTHA BEFORE he came out. That's my point. If he is a switch hitter and he kept it on the slide...he's down low. If he comes out and proclaims he's gay, he's no longer down low.

VoicesCarry said:

I didnt insult you. Im saying, how are you gonna give me that bullshit solution when thats what Ive been saying since the very first post? And what the fuck are you talkin? Im not complaining about the path Maxwell might possibly take musically (this just rumor, remember?) But did I ever say anywhere on this thread that Maxwell shouldnt go that route musically? NO. I just said that although I would always love Maxwell as an artist, I would not wanna listen to a song of him singin about another man. Thats it. Im just dictating what I dont want my own eyes/ears to see/hear - I dont know why you would have a problem wit that. I didnt say I would hold anything against him and I didn't would never listen to his music ever ever again. So thats why I said you sound so fuckin ignorant. Now, do yourself a favor and dont say shit else.

Most you gay posters got it twisted and had a heart attack from the beginning and wrongingfully accused me of being homophobic (which is what I consider "heterophobic" on y'all). When you accuse someone of being something like that when they aint, thats an insult.
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