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Printablesosgemini said: agreed..she just went too far out of her rhelm/element....it was a failed attempt. IMHO
I don't see it. I think she was perfectly in her element. She is primarily a vocalist. She spends all her time singing and it's the thing she values most. The fact that she wanted to make an album celebrating the human voice isn't surprising. I think it's a very exotic dish that many people don't have a taste for. But I think that within the limits of an all vocal album, she made the most interesting work I can think of. When I first heard the specifics about this album, I was like, "Oh no! No tonal instruments?" So I was expecting to hate it. Fortunately, I was pleasantly suprised at how well she pulled it off and how musical it really is. My point. I don't see it as a failure. It's just an acquired taste for most. | |
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sosgemini said: now, since im in the minority here im going to give claps and nods to my own post..
  
(popularity contest be damned..  )I really don't think you're in the minority. I'd say at least half of the people that have heard this album and are Bjork fans don't like it, if not more. It got pretty much slaughtered on here when it first came out. | |
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TRON said: sosgemini said: agreed..she just went too far out of her rhelm/element....it was a failed attempt. IMHO
I don't see it. I think she was perfectly in her element. She is primarily a vocalist. She spends all her time singing and it's the thing she values most. The fact that she wanted to make an album celebrating the human voice isn't surprising. I think it's a very exotic dish that many people don't have a taste for. But I think that within the limits of an all vocal album, she made the most interesting work I can think of. When I first heard the specifics about this album, I was like, "Oh no! No tonal instruments?" So I was expecting to hate it. Fortunately, I was pleasantly suprised at how well she pulled it off and how musical it really is. My point. I don't see it as a failure. It's just an acquired taste for most. I've got to hear this. | |
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Hmmm...this new project sounds interesting.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I thought Medulla was a refreshing return to form for Bjork. The CD of hers that really lost me was Vespertine.  | |
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sosgemini said: bratchildsfriend said: sosgemini said:
great artist need boundries to work within.... I always thought that the great artists as those who break out of the boundaries. Think of all the painters, poets, musicians, architects etc. you admire most. Those who push the edge, experiment and present unique works or approaches are much more interesting than those who work within the confines of a prescribed recipie. And, who gets to define what the boundary is? I believe it is the artist, each time they enter the realm of their craft. They are the only one who can say ~ "okay, this is the limit for this work of art" ~~~ then, they get to move it anywhere they want the next time out. To me, the thought process and the space Bjork had to be in to produce Medulla is as exciting as the album itself (don't forget the beautiful Komid that was left off the US release). I see, Gemini, that one of your favourite artists is MeShell. Her new release "Dance Of The Infidel" is a perfect example of pushing the limits. Not what people expected from her and many are having a difficult time with it but others recognize the genius behind it. Great thread!!!!! thats not what i meant....boundries as far as working within either a timeframe or a concept that energizes their creative energies....when you are free of those boundries, and your ego starts to think you can do no wrong then it is my belief that the art starts to be compromised.. a perfect example of this is Steven Spielberg's Schindler's List..the man had budject constraints, time limits (due to him working on Jurrasic Park at the same time)..he said it was one of the most creative moments in his career..versus something like Amistad that failed despite him having no restraints.. i encourage and support pushing limits..and meshell's a perfect example of an artist that artistically was able to take her music into a different level... i commend bjork for her efforts...but in my personal opinion, she failed...and im not going to appreciate an album simply because of the artist intent...after all, im just a consumer of the product...and if the product sucks..the product sucks.. this isnt saying im not going to buy bjorks music anymore..im just waxing on this one album. now, since im in the minority here im going to give claps and nods to my own post..
(popularity contest be damned.. )ah~ I see ~ makes sense when you put it that way but I do feel the creative process can work with free flow as well. Speaking from limited experience as a potter, I've been in both situations. Limits can force very productive results becuase there isn't time, money etc. to over analyze. But walking into a studio with a blank slate is incredibly exciting and nourishes that inner drive ~ that reason for needing to be an artist. I think both methods can be effective. I'm in agreement with TRON that Bjork was successful in her quest. And I think your applause is very well deserved for the thoughtful and interesting comments you wrote and inspired in others ~~~~~ for sosgemini!!!!! | |
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todd305 said: I know I'm in the minority here, but I thought Medulla was a refreshing return to form for Bjork. The CD of hers that really lost me was Vespertine.
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bratchildsfriend said: sosgemini said: thats not what i meant....boundries as far as working within either a timeframe or a concept that energizes their creative energies....when you are free of those boundries, and your ego starts to think you can do no wrong then it is my belief that the art starts to be compromised.. a perfect example of this is Steven Spielberg's Schindler's List..the man had budject constraints, time limits (due to him working on Jurrasic Park at the same time)..he said it was one of the most creative moments in his career..versus something like Amistad that failed despite him having no restraints.. i encourage and support pushing limits..and meshell's a perfect example of an artist that artistically was able to take her music into a different level... i commend bjork for her efforts...but in my personal opinion, she failed...and im not going to appreciate an album simply because of the artist intent...after all, im just a consumer of the product...and if the product sucks..the product sucks.. this isnt saying im not going to buy bjorks music anymore..im just waxing on this one album. now, since im in the minority here im going to give claps and nods to my own post..
(popularity contest be damned.. )ah~ I see ~ makes sense when you put it that way but I do feel the creative process can work with free flow as well. Speaking from limited experience as a potter, I've been in both situations. Limits can force very productive results becuase there isn't time, money etc. to over analyze. But walking into a studio with a blank slate is incredibly exciting and nourishes that inner drive ~ that reason for needing to be an artist. I think both methods can be effective. I'm in agreement with TRON that Bjork was successful in her quest. And I think your applause is very well deserved for the thoughtful and interesting comments you wrote and inspired in others ~~~~~ for sosgemini!!!!! "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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I love this thread. It's great to see a discussion develop like this.
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Telecaster said: I love this thread. It's great to see a discussion develop like this.
PURRR What do you think the album will be like? And what would you like to see her do after that? Were you happy with Medulla? | |
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Bjork and Matthew Barney. Damn. Could it get any weirder? I think Barney is overrated, but it's interesting to have him around, I guess.
I'm excited about the collaberation. Bjork has never let me down a single time yet. [Edited 6/10/05 21:34pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
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Lammastide said: Bjork and Matthew Barney. Damn. Could it get any weirder? I think Barney is overrated, but it's interesting to have him around, I guess.
I'm excited about the collaberation. Bjork has never let me down a single time yet. the weirder....the better   looking for you in the woods tonight Switch FC SW-2874-2863-4789 (Rum&Coke) | |
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