well,my best friend is Asian and can dance and she has big hips and a bigger butt than this other chick who is black~its a lot of stereotypes out there that are so dumb and WRONG!But i must say my best friend grew up around all black people but how the heck would that effect her shape?!?! | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: i find this thread to be very offensive to white people
It is, very offensive. I am sick of this stereotype especially the stereotypes on white women. I go to a very diverse school in Michigan. I have a big round butt and a lot of black guys have tried to holla at me. Some of them have said to me..."damn girl, you hav a fat ass booty.. you got some black in you."It really irritates me to hear that. Having a big butt is because it runs in your family. It runs in my family. It is not because you are a certain race. Nor is your dancing ability. It's whether or not you were born with rhythm or a talent to dance. We need to stop these stereotypes because it is pushing white and black people farther apart from each other. Oh, but it's totally acceptable for minorities to say stereotypical and racist things about whites. However, all hell would break loose if it was a white person saying something along the lines that about a black person on televison. | |
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theVelvetRoper said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: It is, very offensive. I am sick of this stereotype especially the stereotypes on white women. I go to a very diverse school in Michigan. I have a big round butt and a lot of black guys have tried to holla at me. Some of them have said to me..."damn girl, you hav a fat ass booty.. you got some black in you."It really irritates me to hear that. Having a big butt is because it runs in your family. It runs in my family. It is not because you are a certain race. Nor is your dancing ability. It's whether or not you were born with rhythm or a talent to dance. We need to stop these stereotypes because it is pushing white and black people farther apart from each other. Oh, but it's totally acceptable for minorities to say stereotypical and racist things about whites. However, all hell would break loose if it was a white person saying something along the lines that about a black person on televison. He was dissing the black people... | |
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Janfriend said: theVelvetRoper said: Oh, but it's totally acceptable for minorities to say stereotypical and racist things about whites. However, all hell would break loose if it was a white person saying something along the lines that about a black person on televison. He was dissing the black people... I was mostly responding to what Bootylicious said and what's accepted in society in general, not about "P. Diddy". | |
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Silly Americans. ...Your coochie gonna swell up and fall apart... | |
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Oh, but it's totally acceptable for minorities to say stereotypical and racist things about whites. However, all hell would break loose if it was a white person saying something along the lines that about a black person on televison.
Are you attacking me or just making a statement. I agree with what you said. You soooo get off on being white and having a big butt that makes all the Black guys go nutty. Oh well, keep enjoying the good life!
Oh yeah. I like the attention but sometimes it gets real annoying. Like one time, it was every other day that some black guy was making a comment about my behind. Some of the black guys who have tried to get my number have been fine!!!! | |
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Janfriend said: Shapeshifter said: Well, it's not just white people who can't dance. If we go back to the original post .... "I saw him in his shitty making the band 3, and he was making comments to some black girls about their lack of dancing ability, and along the lines they should be ashamed of being black, what are saying here Puff Shitty, that just because a person is black, they automatically know how to dance?? And white people don't??? Maybe it was me but that's how I took it.. " .... some black folks can't either. In fact, I don't agree with you at all. People either have a sense of rhythm and co-ordination or they don't. I know plenty of black people who can't dance to save their lives, like I know plenty of white folks who dance terrifically - and none of them had dance lessons from 10-18 like you did, and neither do they go to clubs every weekend. [Edited 6/8/05 2:35am] You didn't read everything I said I was able to dance very well before I took any dance lessons because it was something I was surrounded by from birth and I also sated that I do know black people who cannot dance Anyone doing the two-step cpoied it from somewhere else | |
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beret1022 said: i hope the mods lock this one.
So far,everyone is being civil. I don't see a purpose for a lock a up. The only way racism and stereotypes can be squashed is by talking about it dispelling myths and giving facts. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Oh, but it's totally acceptable for minorities to say stereotypical and racist things about whites. However, all hell would break loose if it was a white person saying something along the lines that about a black person on televison.
Are you attacking me or just making a statement. I agree with what you said. You soooo get off on being white and having a big butt that makes all the Black guys go nutty. Oh well, keep enjoying the good life!
Oh yeah. I like the attention but sometimes it gets real annoying. Like one time, it was every other day that some black guy was making a comment about my behind. Some of the black guys who have tried to get my number have been fine!!!! YOu must enjoy the attention, so why complain about it? | |
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Janfriend said:[quote] Shapeshifter said: Everyone copies something from somewhere - for example, you copied your dancing from your family in childhood. Who is to say that a white child growing up in a similar environment to yours (where, say, they witness their family dance daily or fairly regularly) would not later develop into a great dancer as you you have? What kind of dancing are we talking about here? Well then, if we're heading there ... you ever do the bolero? The samba? The cancan? The waltz? How about flamenco dancing? Or ballet? I really think this debate is something that we have to be witnessing together because I have seen a shift in the way white people dance from the 80's till now and it has become blurred with the way black people dance. There used to be distinctions. White women were not moving their hips back and forth the way they are doing now So you go out and watch women in clubs too? Where were you when I needed you? When you say "similar enviroment" do you mean an urban enviroment? Not sure what to say to that. No, I meant an environment similar to the one you described, where your elders danced a lot around their kids - and I mean that literally as opposed to figuratively. Children start off imitating their parents. Therefore it will follow that if a child sees his or her parents dancing a lot, it will emulate its parents. That's basic child psychology for you, not the greatest dancer gene you seem to be suggesting black people possess along with their melanin. My nephews were bopping their heads at 9 months. Don't their parents bop theirs? Bet they do. [Edited 6/8/05 13:42pm] There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said:[quote] Janfriend said: Shapeshifter said: Everyone copies something from somewhere - for example, you copied your dancing from your family in childhood. Who is to say that a white child growing up in a similar environment to yours (where, say, they witness their family dance daily or fairly regularly) would not later develop into a great dancer as you you have? What kind of dancing are we talking about here? Well then, if we're heading there ... you ever do the bolero? The samba? The cancan? The waltz? How about flamenco dancing? Or ballet? Actually , if you want to go there, I am a really good salsa dancer. I go to salsa clubs and I have been complemented by many people. As for ballet, that is something that requires training which goes back to what I originally said about trained dancers. I have been trained in Jazz, Tap, and Modern dance I really think this debate is something that we have to be witnessing together because I have seen a shift in the way white people dance from the 80's till now and it has become blurred with the way black people dance. There used to be distinctions. White women were not moving their hips back and forth the way they are doing now
So you go out and watch women in clubs too? Where were you when I needed you? When you say "similar enviroment" do you mean an urban enviroment? Not sure what to say to that. No, I meant an environment similar to the one you described, where your elders danced a lot around their kids - and I mean that literally as opposed to figuratively. Children start off imitating their parents. Therefore it will follow that if a child sees his or her parents dancing a lot, it will emulate its parents. That's basic child psychology for you, not the greatest dancer gene you seem to be suggesting black people possess along with their melanin. I didn't suggest that. Like I said, it depends on what kind of dancing is being done here My nephews were bopping their heads at 9 months.
Don't their parents bop theirs? Bet they do. [Edited 6/8/05 13:42pm] Well, their single mother, my sister, doesn't bop her head, but I am not going to disagree with the fact they may have seen it somewhere else All you have to do is watch Spring Break on MTV to know what I'm talking about | |
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Janfriend said: I've never known a white person that could dance naturally without formal training
The hip-hop style of dancing was created by black folks and I think that is the kind of dancing on the show. Sure there are black folks that can't dance. I've known some. It's a crying shame Paging Andre Cymone... Some people tell me I've got great legs... | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: I've never known a white person that could dance naturally without formal training
I do. There are some people out there that can watch people dancing and then get the dance move right away. No amount of formal training will make a Fred Astaire or a Gene Kelly. They were incredibly naturally talented dancers who went even further with formal training. Rather than it being a matter of race, it's more a function of the music you are used to listening to. Rhythmic music with a heavy beat is easier to dance to than let's say, heavy rock or opera music. It's cultural rather than racial. Some people tell me I've got great legs... | |
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Alasseon said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: I do. There are some people out there that can watch people dancing and then get the dance move right away. No amount of formal training will make a Fred Astaire or a Gene Kelly. They were incredibly naturally talented dancers who went even further with formal training. Rather than it being a matter of race, it's more a function of the music you are used to listening to. Rhythmic music with a heavy beat is easier to dance to than let's say, heavy rock or opera music. It's cultural rather than racial. That's up for debate. It depends who you ask and is a matter of opinion. | |
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Alasseon said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: I do. There are some people out there that can watch people dancing and then get the dance move right away. No amount of formal training will make a Fred Astaire or a Gene Kelly. They were incredibly naturally talented dancers who went even further with formal training. Rather than it being a matter of race, it's more a function of the music you are used to listening to. Rhythmic music with a heavy beat is easier to dance to than let's say, heavy rock or opera music. It's cultural rather than racial. Ever hear of black culture? | |
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Hotlegs said: Alasseon said: No amount of formal training will make a Fred Astaire or a Gene Kelly. They were incredibly naturally talented dancers who went even further with formal training. Rather than it being a matter of race, it's more a function of the music you are used to listening to. Rhythmic music with a heavy beat is easier to dance to than let's say, heavy rock or opera music. It's cultural rather than racial. That's up for debate. It depends who you ask and is a matter of opinion. I applaud your diplomacy. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Janfriend said: Alasseon said: No amount of formal training will make a Fred Astaire or a Gene Kelly. They were incredibly naturally talented dancers who went even further with formal training. Rather than it being a matter of race, it's more a function of the music you are used to listening to. Rhythmic music with a heavy beat is easier to dance to than let's say, heavy rock or opera music. It's cultural rather than racial. Ever hear of black culture? Well, let's break that down a bit shall we - which "black" culture are you referring to? On which continent? Which country? Whose ethnic minority? European black people see things in a very different way to African-Americans. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Janfriend said:[quote] Shapeshifter said: I didn't suggest that. Like I said, it depends on what kind of dancing is being done here My nephews were bopping their heads at 9 months.
Don't their parents bop theirs? Bet they do. [Edited 6/8/05 13:42pm] Well, their single mother, my sister, doesn't bop her head, but I am not going to disagree with the fact they may have seen it somewhere else All you have to do is watch Spring Break on MTV to know what I'm talking about I hate MTV. Never watch it. Rots the brain. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said: Janfriend said: Ever hear of black culture? Well, let's break that down a bit shall we - which "black" culture are you referring to? On which continent? Which country? Whose ethnic minority? European black people see things in a very different way to African-Americans. Well hello? Did this discussion not originate from something a black American said? I am American. I cannot speak for any other country or continent | |
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Shapeshifter said: Janfriend said: Well, their single mother, my sister, doesn't bop her head, but I am not going to disagree with the fact they may have seen it somewhere else All you have to do is watch Spring Break on MTV to know what I'm talking about I hate MTV. Never watch it. Rots the brain. Do you go to dance clubs? | |
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Shapeshifter said: Janfriend said: Ever hear of black culture? Well, let's break that down a bit shall we - which "black" culture are you referring to? On which continent? Which country? Whose ethnic minority? European black people see things in a very different way to African-Americans. REally? how so? | |
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Janfriend said: Shapeshifter said: Well, let's break that down a bit shall we - which "black" culture are you referring to? On which continent? Which country? Whose ethnic minority? European black people see things in a very different way to African-Americans. Well hello? Did this discussion not originate from something a black American said? I am American. I cannot speak for any other country or continent But did you not say "I've never known a white person that could dance naturally without formal training"? You didn't specify nationality at all, just stereotype. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Janfriend said: Shapeshifter said: I hate MTV. Never watch it. Rots the brain. Do you go to dance clubs? Are you asking me out on a date? There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said: Janfriend said: Do you go to dance clubs? Are you asking me out on a date? Sounds like a connection to me. | |
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Shapeshifter said: Janfriend said: Well hello? Did this discussion not originate from something a black American said? I am American. I cannot speak for any other country or continent But did you not say "I've never known a white person that could dance naturally without formal training"? You didn't specify nationality at all, just stereotype. Uh, was I supposed to specify? I was talking about the people I know. Most of the people I know are American. I know people from other countries to, but the majority are American. Sorry I didn't make that clear | |
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Hotlegs said: Shapeshifter said: Are you asking me out on a date? Sounds like a connection to me. | |
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Shapeshifter said: Janfriend said: Do you go to dance clubs? Are you asking me out on a date? I'm trying to figure out where your observations are coming from. I told you mine | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: I can't speak on the dancing part but the big booty part I can. It's rear to see a white lady with a Sista/Spanish lady type booty. So when a brotha sees that he's shocked, we think that you have to have some other ethnic orgin in your blood because most of the white ladies we encounter don't have round backsides like are Sistas and Spanish ladies They are usually flat as a pancake in the booty area.
Don't be offended by it, hell all we want to do is stick are faces in between those cheeks, see it's a win-win situation if you like that kinda service from a man, LOL!! It is not a race thing. It runs in the family whether or not you have a big behind. I have seen tons of black girls at my college with flat butts. Uh, well. My butt is wide and round. I have gotten a ton of attention from it. A lot. There's this thing called nightwatch. It's people sitting at the door to the dorms and they watch to see if anyone is coming in who shouldn't. My friend works there and he told me about the black guys who talk about me and say how my butt was nice and round. I would also be talkin to my friend at the front desk, and he said some of the black guys would said damn or o wee. LOL Honey, black women get stereotyped the worst! At least, yours is something positive!
Not really. They say that black guys try to go for white girls because they think we are easier than black girls. Some of the black girls give me stares when I am talking or sitting with some black guys. You say it's not a race thing because your a rare White girl with a big booty, I'm saying it's just as rear to see a Sista or Latina with no Butt where I'm from.You just don't understand a White lady with booty isn't the norm to us brothas, it's not something seen everyday here in Philly. | |
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Adisa said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: Not really. They say that black guys try to go for white girls because they think we are easier than black girls. Some of the black girls give me stares when I am talking or sitting with some black guys. You soooo get off on being white and having a big butt that makes all the Black guys go nutty. Oh well, keep enjoying the good life! Call it for what it is. A white girl who thinks she can pull all the "n*gg*s." | |
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