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Reply #90 posted 06/08/05 8:40am

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Xavier23 said:

BoOTyLiCioUs said:



nod

body dismorphic disorder is a phsical condition where the body feeds on itself(read my other post) what u guys are talking about is a pschological condition refferd to as "self loathing"


Um no sir, I don't know where ur getting ur info from but BDD is a psychlogical condition. Observe the following from an internet search:

"Body dysmorphic disorder is a type of anxiety disorder. The disorder is different from eating disorders because it involves other factors besides one's weight or body size. Physical features or attributes are what provokes the person's anxiety and negative beliefs. Those with BDD have several 'cognitive distortions' about how they look. Cognitive distortions are distorted beliefs about a perceived flaw," explains Steven Pittman, PhD, a licensed clinical psychologist.

We all know that anxiety disorders are psychological so that means BDD is as well. See also:

JackieBlue said:

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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD) is a mental disorder which involves a disturbed body image. The central feature of BDD is that persons who are afflicted with it are excessively dissatisfied with their body because of a perceived physical defect. An example would be a man who is extremely worried that his nose is too big, although other people don't notice anything unusual about it.
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Reply #91 posted 06/08/05 8:55am

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i can't imagine michael as a gay man
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Reply #92 posted 06/08/05 8:56am

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Marrk said:

I will not continue to support him if somebody pulls this shit on him again.

He can't allow himself to be put in this position ever again.hmph!



i see where your coming from, i too am supporting him with this one, even if there is another claim after another against him i will support him just as strong.....

BUT IF HE HAS ANOTHER TEEN SLEEP OVER

MY SUPPORT IS GAME OVER!!!
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Reply #93 posted 06/08/05 8:59am

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Xavier23 said:

i can't imagine michael as a gay man


i can actually, it wasnt untill the day Vain Andy brought it up, its made me think yeh,, i would be allot happy for him if he came out with it, (if he was)
Once he would share a physical relationship am sure he would stop hating him self with the physical insecurities... thats my opinon..
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Reply #94 posted 06/08/05 9:03am

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ThaCat said:

Xavier23 said:

i can't imagine michael as a gay man


i can actually, it wasnt untill the day Vain Andy brought it up, its made me think yeh,, i would be allot happy for him if he came out with it, (if he was)
Once he would share a physical relationship am sure he would stop hating him self with the physical insecurities... thats my opinon..

somehow i can't see him kissing another man, the king of pop just doesn't do that disbelief
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Reply #95 posted 06/08/05 9:04am

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Xavier23 said:

ThaCat said:



i can actually, it wasnt untill the day Vain Andy brought it up, its made me think yeh,, i would be allot happy for him if he came out with it, (if he was)
Once he would share a physical relationship am sure he would stop hating him self with the physical insecurities... thats my opinon..

somehow i can't see him kissing another man, the king of pop just doesn't do that disbelief


Sounds like a homophobic comment to me.
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Reply #96 posted 06/08/05 9:07am

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VoicesCarry said:

Xavier23 said:


somehow i can't see him kissing another man, the king of pop just doesn't do that disbelief


Sounds like a homophobic comment to me.

don't get me wrong i'm gay, but somehow i just can't see him as a gay man. i would honestly be shocked if it turned out to be true neutral
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Reply #97 posted 06/08/05 9:16am

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Xavier23 said:


somehow i can't see him kissing another man, the king of pop just doesn't do that disbelief


maybe cos we cant see mike being intimate with anybody?!?
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Reply #98 posted 06/08/05 10:01am

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Cloudbuster said:

VoicesCarry said:



Well, for starters, you'd have to be totally fuckin' deluded...


Why? I know a couple (black male, white female, both dark haired) who have four blue eyed, blonde haired, white skinned children. It's rare, but it can happen.

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Exactly. Not common, but not impossible.
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Reply #99 posted 06/08/05 10:05am

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ThaCat said:

Xavier23 said:


somehow i can't see him kissing another man, the king of pop just doesn't do that disbelief


maybe cos we cant see mike being intimate with anybody?!?

That could be it. I know thatmyself, even after seeing the infamous Lisa Marie kiss, have a difficult time picturing him kiss anyone.
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Reply #100 posted 06/08/05 10:27am

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If Mike is acquitted, I'd like to see him take his children and live elsewhere.

Also, this should be a great lesson to him, about trust, and other people's children.

Fuck 'em all! Live for him, and his children.
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Reply #101 posted 06/08/05 10:35am

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DavidEye said:

Sadly,I think his career is over,even if he survives these latest charges.He simply has too much baggage to carry around.These days,when people think of Michael Jackson,they don't think about music.They think about child molestation and plastic surgery.It's so tragic.I can't imagine him making any kind of comeback.If he is acquitted,many people are still gonna believe that he is a child molester.

On one hand, I feel the same way as u do. On the other hand, for some reason, I CAN see Michael coming out with an album, and if it's good, I can see it selling
like hotcakes. Producer L.A. Reid said that IF Michael was to succeed, he would should get a new change of address. Sell Neverland, move to New York, put out a new album with more ballad type soulful material and then do a scaled down tour. No huge arenas. He felt that MJ needs to reconnect with the real world.
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Reply #102 posted 06/08/05 10:57am

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blackguitaristz said:

DavidEye said:

Sadly,I think his career is over,even if he survives these latest charges.He simply has too much baggage to carry around.These days,when people think of Michael Jackson,they don't think about music.They think about child molestation and plastic surgery.It's so tragic.I can't imagine him making any kind of comeback.If he is acquitted,many people are still gonna believe that he is a child molester.

On one hand, I feel the same way as u do. On the other hand, for some reason, I CAN see Michael coming out with an album, and if it's good, I can see it selling
like hotcakes. Producer L.A. Reid said that IF Michael was to succeed, he would should get a new change of address. Sell Neverland, move to New York, put out a new album with more ballad type soulful material and then do a scaled down tour. No huge arenas. He felt that MJ needs to reconnect with the real world.


These are all good ideas... which is probably why he won't do it.
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Reply #103 posted 06/08/05 11:19am

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VoicesCarry said:

You are officially the biggest Michael Jackson apologist ever.


I just call it as I see it. No harm in doing so. If I honestly thought he was a monster I would say so. But I don't. And that, as they say, is that.
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Reply #104 posted 06/08/05 11:43am

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If Mike is acquitted, I'd like to see him take his children and live elsewhere.


You think thats best for the kids?
Neverland has been the only home they have known.
Its a kids dreamland.
They have lived their young lives in an amusement park/home - this is what they have come to expect. They have been shown a world that most children will never experience. Do you think removing them from that enviroment will have no effect? They had the perfect childhood until it was ripped away from them & they were hurled into the cold sterile world of reality.
MJ often cries that he had no childhood - what will leaving Neverland do to his own kids childhood memories?
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Reply #105 posted 06/08/05 11:50am

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Oh, and girls have slept in his room, too. Not just ze boys. wink


what is THIS supposed to say to us? eek
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Reply #106 posted 06/08/05 12:02pm

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He fucked his own good thing up by being such a damn child and hanging out with kids. He has spent tons of money on a rediculous ranch called "Neverland" with amusement park rides, toys, and animals. He's also spent so much money on payoffs to past accusers and now on laywers for this court case.

Michael had enough money that he could have come out as a strong, proud gay man and absolutely flaunted it in people's faces. It wouldn't have mattered if he ever sold another record in his life because he had enough money that he was set for life. He had enough money that, if people called him words like "faggott", he could say "I'm a rich faggott and your money made me one, you stupid ass motherfuckers, now do something about it if you don't like it". He was in a position to have the last laugh but instead, he's the one being laughed at for running around with kids like a damned fool. He should have been running around with either full grown men or full grown women.....whichever it is that turns him on.

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Reply #107 posted 06/08/05 12:19pm

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thedoorkeeper said:


You think thats best for the kids?
Neverland has been the only home they have known.
Its a kids dreamland.
They have lived their young lives in an amusement park/home - this is what they have come to expect. They have been shown a world that most children will never experience. Do you think removing them from that enviroment will have no effect? They had the perfect childhood until it was ripped away from them & they were hurled into the cold sterile world of reality.
MJ often cries that he had no childhood - what will leaving Neverland do to his own kids childhood memories?
[Edited 6/8/05 11:45am]


And that, my friends, is what is called "life". wink
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Reply #108 posted 06/08/05 1:03pm

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xpsiter said:

thedoorkeeper said:


You think thats best for the kids?
Neverland has been the only home they have known.
Its a kids dreamland.
They have lived their young lives in an amusement park/home - this is what they have come to expect. They have been shown a world that most children will never experience. Do you think removing them from that enviroment will have no effect? They had the perfect childhood until it was ripped away from them & they were hurled into the cold sterile world of reality.
MJ often cries that he had no childhood - what will leaving Neverland do to his own kids childhood memories?
[Edited 6/8/05 11:45am]


And that, my friends, is what is called "life". wink
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nodThank you very much! That is what life is, a "cold sterile world". The only thing that gets you through it are the proper tools needed to succeed in life and career, which are handed down from the parents. Obviously Michael is not providing these tools to his kids, mainly because he doesn't have them himself. Living at Neverland is in fact NOT the perfect environment for them. By having them live in such an outlandish place and (I'm assuming) giving them whatever the want they will come to expect those things in life. And that my friend is just not how the world works. I pray for Michael and children because crazy begats crazy and if Michael doesn't stop listening to his "yes" men and get some real help his kids will be worse than he is.
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Reply #109 posted 06/08/05 4:35pm

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JackieBlue said:

blackguitaristz said:


On one hand, I feel the same way as u do. On the other hand, for some reason, I CAN see Michael coming out with an album, and if it's good, I can see it selling
like hotcakes. Producer L.A. Reid said that IF Michael was to succeed, he would should get a new change of address. Sell Neverland, move to New York, put out a new album with more ballad type soulful material and then do a scaled down tour. No huge arenas. He felt that MJ needs to reconnect with the real world.


These are all good ideas... which is probably why he won't do it.

That's exactly what I thought. I say the verdict will be in by this Friday, the 10th or on Monday.
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Reply #110 posted 06/08/05 4:42pm

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blackguitaristz said:

JackieBlue said:



These are all good ideas... which is probably why he won't do it.

That's exactly what I thought. I say the verdict will be in by this Friday, the 10th or on Monday.


If innocent, mike gonan bea new man (I hope). He can still shift 5-10 million easy peesy. No one can do 20 million anymore.

So his career would not be over. As has been stated, maybe americans are fed up with him, but certainly europe, japen and UK ain't.

get a deal with warners or whoever, and do a bloody jacksons album already.
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Reply #111 posted 06/08/05 6:04pm

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Reply #112 posted 06/08/05 6:16pm

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If Mike is acquitted, I'd like to see him take his children and live elsewhere.

Also, this should be a great lesson to him, about trust, and other people's children.

Fuck 'em all! Live for him, and his children.
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Reply #113 posted 06/08/05 7:35pm

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blackguitaristz said:

Do you think he will still have a career? Will the public and media turn on him? Just curious as to what you all think if this was to go down.

If I were Michael and escaped unscathed legally from his present predicament, 1st i'd take a serious look at the Man In The Mirror and make some decisions.

1. If there is a sexual/psychological/physical problem, get help.

2. Get an extreme makeover of the adult variety. (IMO "Captain Crunch" suits on someone approaching 50 is pushing it)

3. If it's determined that he still can have a career in the biz (be it large or small), start work on a smoking record.
Consider a skillful non-trendy adult. (Quincy Jones maybe?)

4. Get out of the house and on the road.
As others have said, if the U.S. won't have it, there's a big world out there willing to pay for him to get on stage.


Step 1 is mandatory all others are optional.


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Reply #114 posted 06/08/05 8:44pm

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theAudience said:

blackguitaristz said:

Do you think he will still have a career? Will the public and media turn on him? Just curious as to what you all think if this was to go down.

If I were Michael and escaped unscathed legally from his present predicament, 1st i'd take a serious look at the Man In The Mirror and make some decisions.

1. If there is a sexual/psychological/physical problem, get help.

2. Get an extreme makeover of the adult variety. (IMO "Captain Crunch" suits on someone approaching 50 is pushing it)

3. If it's determined that he still can have a career in the biz (be it large or small), start work on a smoking record.
Consider a skillful non-trendy adult. (Quincy Jones maybe?)

4. Get out of the house and on the road.
As others have said, if the U.S. won't have it, there's a big world out there willing to pay for him to get on stage.


Step 1 is mandatory all others are optional.


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Reply #115 posted 06/08/05 10:21pm

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FunkyBrotha said:

"Hip Hop has dominated the charts for years"

Um yeah, in the US, but what about the rest of the world. Just remember that in Europe, in places like France, Germany and the UK despite bad press, MJ is still huge, he sold almost 2million copies of Number Ones in the UK alone, compared with 1.5million in the US and almost a million in France. Worldwide he is still massive and Invincible sold almost 10million worldwide. These days 10million is massive, in fact besides Usher, not that many CDs have sold more than that this decade.


Michael will ALWAYS have Europe in general & Asia (especially Japan).
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Reply #116 posted 06/08/05 10:25pm

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vainandy said:

His career was on the decline before this scandal. Hip hop has dominated the charts for years and, unless an artist sells out to it, they don't usually do well. Michael also has a gay appearance and even if he did sell out to hip hop, he would never be accepted because I can't think of a more homophobic genre of music out there than hip hop.


Outside of USA, Michael will ALWAYS have Europe in general & Asia (especially Japan).

And forget Hip-Hop, Michael needs to do electronic.

He needs to hired BT & Daft Punk to help him with the next comeback album.
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Reply #117 posted 06/08/05 10:29pm

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thedoorkeeper said:

dangerousman said:

if i was MJ i would be fucking every fit girl right and centre.


Unfortunately MJ never matured emotionally beyond
8 years old & 8 year old boys have no interest in having sex.
8 year old boys want to have slumber parties & food fights & sneak booze in soda cans & live in an amusement park.
Fucking girls right & centre plays no part in his world.


Bullshit!!!

When I was age 8, I want a girlfriend!
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Reply #118 posted 06/08/05 10:32pm

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Xavier23 said:

dangerousman said:



if that true and its look l ikely,

then MJ is one fucked up individual,

a disgrace to black race,

it must mean he truly ashamed

i love michael but i always thought he wanted to be white.


Before Michael ever went public about his skin disorder, I thought he wanted to be light-skinned like Prince!!! confused
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Reply #119 posted 06/08/05 10:36pm

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dangerousman said:

hes a stupid fucker

if he had stayed same as in 1984, not got more nose jobs,
and found nice woman to be wife, instead of paying old white hag to have baby,
he would be more respected and not so much of a joke,

all his other brother went and got wife the normal way and fucked hard and had black babies,

the stupid tit, should have fucked Lisa Marie and got her pregnant,

Lisa Marie deserved a huge cock in her clitoris


If Lise Marie was MY wife, we would've had at least 4 kids!!!!
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