BoOTyLiCioUs said:

body dismorphic disorder is a phsical condition where the body feeds on itself(read my other post) what u guys are talking about is a pschological condition refferd to as "self loathing"

Are 2 different disorders being discussed? I only knew of BDD as...

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD) is a mental disorder which involves a disturbed body image. The central feature of BDD is that persons who are afflicted with it are excessively dissatisfied with their body because of a perceived physical defect. An example would be a man who is extremely worried that his nose is too big, although other people don't notice anything unusual about it.

Xavier23 said:

Err....no, they were correct.

He fucked his own good thing up by being such a damn child and hanging out with kids. He has spent tons of money on a rediculous ranch called "Neverland" with amusement park rides, toys, and animals. He's also spent so much money on payoffs to past accusers and now on laywers for this court case.

Michael had enough money that he could have come out as a strong, proud gay man and absolutely flaunted it in people's faces. It wouldn't have mattered if he ever sold another record in his life because he had enough money that he was set for life. He had enough money that, if people called him words like "faggott", he could say "I'm a rich faggott and your money made me one, you stupid ass motherfuckers, now do something about it if you don't like it". He was in a position to have the last laugh but instead, he's the one being laughed at for running around with kids like a damned fool. He should have been running around with either full grown men or full grown women.....whichever it is that turns him on.

vainandy said:

True. Mike did screw himself over bigtime and now he has to pay the piper.

dangerousman said:

Who cares what colour his kids are? They're cute, and as far as we know, healthy. Should it matter what shade they are?

meow85 said:

Good point.

dangerousman said:

In her clitoris?

You don't know much about the female anatomy, do you?

Hmm...Michael as a gay man...


I wonder, if he had come out, would he have been dating a fellow celebrity, or someone less high profile?

meow85 said:

That's a thought.

MsLegs said:

Thanks.


They might be his, or there might have been a sperm donor.

It's entirely possible to have half-black kids that light-skinned, it's just not common.

I'm mixed Native and white, but am paler than most white people I know. I couldn't tan to save my life! But on the plus side, unlike white people, I can't get a sunburn either. Most people don't believe me when I say I'm Metis, or try to suggest that my mom was fooling around on my dad with a white man!
[Edited 6/7/05 23:50pm]

MsLegs said:

Kind of a tough question, really. Michael likes to make a spectacle of himself, so another celeb (a la Lisa Marie) almost seems the obvious choice, but he also likes to keep a certain amount of privacy, so it might've been someone he knew outside of the business (a la Debbie)

meow85 said:

Meow, I have to agree with you again. You read my mind.

Sadly,I think his career is over,even if he survives these latest charges.He simply has too much baggage to carry around.These days,when people think of Michael Jackson,they don't think about music.They think about child molestation and plastic surgery.It's so tragic.I can't imagine him making any kind of comeback.If he is acquitted,many people are still gonna believe that he is a child molester.

VoicesCarry said:

Why? I know a couple (black male, white female, both dark haired) who have four blue eyed, blonde haired, white skinned children. It's rare, but it can happen.

langebleu said:

My biggest fear is that,if he is acquitted,he will assume that he was "right" all along,that his behavior was justified.I pray that the people close to him will be honest with him,and tell him the truth.

For what it's worth i've never believed Prince Michael, Paris and Prince Michael II were ever biologically Michaels. How he stands in relation to keeping the kids if sent to prison could turn out to be interesting.

I suppose Paris could be his, she has a darkish look about her (similar to Madonna's daughter)

If i'm honest, i'd prefer them to be with their mother(s). Michael's life is just so much of a mess at present. It's not fair on them.

DavidEye said:

thats absolutely right point there you made,, lets hope HE actually works it out for him self this time... there wont be another next time... no way his family and fans are going to have the strength to keep supporting him when he shares beds with teenagers.

i am a big fan of Mike and a supporter of his innocence but When he has His own Children now for company why does he feel the need to be with other Peoples Children too????

ThaCat said:

I belive their MJ´s kids, cause if he didn´t care to have his own biological than I don´t understand why he didn´t adopt one rather than use someoné else´s sperm. I mean adoption is faster and easier.

I can see some resemblance of Michael in Paris in that picture of her leaning from a car.

And the reason why he divorced LMP, I think is that she wouldn´t give him kids. He said in Life magazine interview (the issue that that first picture of Mike and liil Prince comes from) that she told him she regreted not having his child.

ThaCat said:

I'll always love his music and his ability as a performer, but really, this is last chance saloon time for Michael as a person. The Jury may not give him that chance, but i'm willing to. It's the only one he's getting from me though from now on.

Sad, all this could have been so easily avoidable. we had a long drawn out ilnness and death in the family last year, and (to me) the stress of this trial and waiting on the verdict, has been equally stressful. I'll be extremely glad when it's all over (whatever the result).

Marrk said:

He gets no more chances from me.I'm done with Michael.I will forever be a fan of his old music (Jackson Five stuff,Off The Wall,Thriller,etc) but I give up on him.He should be ashamed of himself for putting his fans through this bullshit,not once,but TWICE!

DavidEye said:

So if he puts a new album out you won't be buying it?

Cloudbuster said:

Nope

DavidEye said:

Question for Cloudy....


If MJ gets acquitted,and then continues to have "sleepovers" with young boys,will this be okay with you?

DavidEye said:

I didn't buy Invincible, so I certainly won't be purchasing the next one, if there is indeed a next one (something tells me there won't be).
[Edited 6/8/05 6:26am]

DavidEye said:

I think he'd be a fool to continue the sleep-overs. But then (despite the opinions of some orgers) I've already stressed many times that I think he was foolish to carry on as he did before after the '93 affair.

However, I still don't think there's anything wrong, creepy, sinister (take your pick, guys) with hanging out with children. They're actually good company most of the time. But sure, when you've been accused of child molestation then obviously you have to be cautious. MJ failed. It makes no difference to me as a fan of his work, tho'. I find him peculiar but that doesn't mean he's a monster.

Oh, and girls have slept in his room, too. Not just ze boys.

I will not continue to support him if somebody pulls this shit on him again.

He can't allow himself to be put in this position ever again.

Cloudbuster said:

You are officially the biggest Michael Jackson apologist ever.