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vainandy

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Michael Jackson's Gender Preference

A topic that I have not seen discussed lately is what gender is Michael Jackson attracted to. With all the talk about children, people haven't really discussed the gender issue in much detail. This is NOT a thread dealing with the court case or whether or not Michael sexually prefers children. This is a thread about specifically what gender do you think Michael is sexually attracted to.

A long time arguement that many people have made is that Michael is asexual, meaning that he has absolutely no sexual attraction to either a male or a female. I could understand that theory until it came out that he had porno magazines. The fact that someone would even own a porno magazine means that they do have sexual attractions so that shoots that whole asexual theory to hell. Knowing this now, what gender do you think Michael is attracted to? As I said before, this is not about children but merely gender.
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Reply #1 posted 05/17/05 11:14pm

lilgish

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well, he ate stephanie mills out. biggrin

Liberace's former lover Scott Thorson said they had an affair.

he had gay and str8 porn.

Mike plays both sides.
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Reply #2 posted 05/17/05 11:20pm

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I think he totally likes males. A closet gay person would have straight porn because it would have both a male and a female. The closet person would be looking at the dicks and not really pay attention to the females. Also, if anyone else ever found the porn, they wouldn't be busted out of the closet.
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Reply #3 posted 05/17/05 11:23pm

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To be serious and academic on this..
Queer Thoery as it relates to MichaeL Jackson

Here Goes: http://www.hartfordadvoca...=oid:83561

On Sept. 23-24, 2004, Yale University's Larry Kramer Initiative for Lesbian and Gay Studies co-sponsored, with the university's Department of African American Studies, an interdisciplinary conference titled “Regarding Michael Jackson: Performing Racial, Gender, and Sexual Difference Center Stage.”

Regarding Michael Jackson: Performing Racial, Gender, and Sexual
Difference


A two-day conference event at Yale University, 24-25 September 2004
Sponsored by the African American Studies Department and the Larry
Kramer Initiative for Lesbian and Gay Studies
Organized by Uri McMillan and Seth Clark Silberman



Panels and papers could explore, but should not be limited to, the
following:
1. Michael and the remix: courting black and gay club culture
2. Michael in black and white: plastic-surgery and cross-over ?passing?
3. ?Have you seen my childhood??: the spectacle, expected adolescence,
and belated independence of childhood stars
4. ?Man in the Mirror?: race, technology, and visual culture
5. Michael and the dance: black corporeal and cultural politics
6. ?I am not a homo?: denial, and the enigmatic ?family? man
7. Transforming Michael: horror movie conventions, make-up, and
make-believe
8. ?I?m not like other guys?: Michael performs black masculinity
9. Michael and paranoia: selling celebrity culture
10. ?I am Peter Pan?: courting, distorting childlike wonder
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Reply #4 posted 05/17/05 11:45pm

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http://www.indegayforum.o...hick4.html

Check this out.

I think this writer might be racist, he'll let the blacks deals with michael, yet doesn't want to deal with him as an american or as a gay man.

I can at the very least understand a seminar on Michael Jackson sponsored by the African-American Studies Department, touching on issues of racial identity.But what I cannot countenance is the leadership of the Larry Kramer Initiative for Lesbian & Gay Studies in hosting this celebratory conference on a man who is widely, and rightly, viewed by society as a disturbed individual who engages in questionable sexual activity.

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Reply #5 posted 05/17/05 11:53pm

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vainandy said:

A topic that I have not seen discussed lately is what gender is Michael Jackson attracted to. With all the talk about children, people haven't really discussed the gender issue in much detail. This is NOT a thread dealing with the court case or whether or not Michael sexually prefers children. This is a thread about specifically what gender do you think Michael is sexually attracted to.

A long time arguement that many people have made is that Michael is asexual, meaning that he has absolutely no sexual attraction to either a male or a female. I could understand that theory until it came out that he had porno magazines. The fact that someone would even own a porno magazine means that they do have sexual attractions so that shoots that whole asexual theory to hell. Knowing this now, what gender do you think Michael is attracted to? As I said before, this is not about children but merely gender.
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White Women!!!! cool

See, that was easy.

EDIT: I could be wrong for saying that. But I know for a fact that Michael don't want Black, Latina, or Asian.
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[Edited 5/17/05 23:56pm]
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Reply #6 posted 05/17/05 11:59pm

TonyVanDam

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lilgish said:

To be serious and academic on this..
Queer Thoery as it relates to MichaeL Jackson

Here Goes: http://www.hartfordadvoca...=oid:83561

On Sept. 23-24, 2004, Yale University's Larry Kramer Initiative for Lesbian and Gay Studies co-sponsored, with the university's Department of African American Studies, an interdisciplinary conference titled “Regarding Michael Jackson: Performing Racial, Gender, and Sexual Difference Center Stage.”

Regarding Michael Jackson: Performing Racial, Gender, and Sexual
Difference


A two-day conference event at Yale University, 24-25 September 2004
Sponsored by the African American Studies Department and the Larry
Kramer Initiative for Lesbian and Gay Studies
Organized by Uri McMillan and Seth Clark Silberman



Panels and papers could explore, but should not be limited to, the
following:
1. Michael and the remix: courting black and gay club culture
2. Michael in black and white: plastic-surgery and cross-over ?passing?
3. ?Have you seen my childhood??: the spectacle, expected adolescence,
and belated independence of childhood stars
4. ?Man in the Mirror?: race, technology, and visual culture
5. Michael and the dance: black corporeal and cultural politics
6. ?I am not a homo?: denial, and the enigmatic ?family? man
7. Transforming Michael: horror movie conventions, make-up, and
make-believe
8. ?I?m not like other guys?: Michael performs black masculinity
9. Michael and paranoia: selling celebrity culture
10. ?I am Peter Pan?: courting, distorting childlike wonder
[Edited 5/17/05 23:41pm]



Damn!!! Michael Jackson, 2pac, Prince, & Public Enemy are deep subjects in the college classrooms these days!
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Reply #7 posted 05/17/05 11:59pm

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TonyVanDam said:

vainandy said:

A topic that I have not seen discussed lately is what gender is Michael Jackson attracted to. With all the talk about children, people haven't really discussed the gender issue in much detail. This is NOT a thread dealing with the court case or whether or not Michael sexually prefers children. This is a thread about specifically what gender do you think Michael is sexually attracted to.

A long time arguement that many people have made is that Michael is asexual, meaning that he has absolutely no sexual attraction to either a male or a female. I could understand that theory until it came out that he had porno magazines. The fact that someone would even own a porno magazine means that they do have sexual attractions so that shoots that whole asexual theory to hell. Knowing this now, what gender do you think Michael is attracted to? As I said before, this is not about children but merely gender.
[Edited 5/17/05 23:10pm]


White Women!!!! cool

See, that was easy.

EDIT: I could be wrong for saying that. But I know for a fact that Michael don't want Black, Latina, or Asian.


Good One

I have seen him with non-white women though..



The Jacksons have color issues.

The last women he was seen with was white...



Michael Jackson and Monique lol
Well, if he wants a beard, it's definitely gonna be white.
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Reply #8 posted 05/18/05 12:59am

vainandy

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TonyVanDam said:

White Women!!!! cool

See, that was easy.

EDIT: I could be wrong for saying that. But I know for a fact that Michael don't want Black, Latina, or Asian.


I don't think he is really attracted to white women sexually though. I think there are things about them that he admires. With all the plastic surgery, it looks to me that he doesn't want to have a white woman sexually, he wants to be a white woman.
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Reply #9 posted 05/18/05 1:17am

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I don't think he is really attracted to white women sexually though. I think there are things about them that he admires. With all the plastic surgery, it looks to me that he doesn't want to have a white woman sexually, he wants to be a white woman
rolleyes


MIKE LIKES WOMEN!!!!! Get over it guys????? I don´t think he´s more complicated than Prince and we all know that Prince likes women, but some ppl have hard times believing that. I think it´s the same with Mike. He likes women, but people WANT him to like men, children, whatever.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #10 posted 05/18/05 1:20am

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dag said:


MIKE LIKES WOMEN!!!!! Get over it guys????? I don´t think he´s more complicated than Prince and we all know that Prince likes women, but some ppl have hard times believing that. I think it´s the same with Mike. He likes women, but people WANT him to like men, children, whatever.
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Prince's sexuality is questionable also. Not everyone buys that Prince is only into women.
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Reply #11 posted 05/18/05 2:52am

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Prince's sexuality is questionable also. Not everyone buys that Prince is only into women.

OK.
I think he does, I think they both do - like women.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #12 posted 05/18/05 6:25am

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Being gay doesn't mean you can't appreciate the other sex. It's one thing to like women--think they are attractive, intriguing, etc--it's another to actually want to BE with a woman--in a relationship that includes affection and sexual intercourse, sharing quality time, dating or living in the same home--all those little heterosexual nuances. I don't really get that Michael is sincerely emotionally and sexually interested in a relationship with women, but hey I could be wrong. His preferences don't really matter to me--as long as they're over 18.
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Reply #13 posted 05/18/05 7:54am

Novabreaker

Michael Jackson is obviously trans-gendered. But in a very unconventional way.

He prefers his face to look like a woman's (in fact his face alterations could be seen as one form of sex-change operations), yet from the head down he strikes to me as quite masculine. His choice of clothes isn't typical for a transvestite, they don't denote much overt feminine sexuality. And moreover, unlike transvestites he doesn't seem to be much of a fetishist. This would hint at some sort of asexuality indeed.

I think the most important factor that people always forget when speculating Jackson's sexual orientation is that he is most likely quite shy about his appearance. Vitiligo or not, it's clear that if we saw Michael Jackson's body up-close, naked and without make-up the sight wouldn't necessarily be the most pleasant - he is apparently quite blotchy and definitely not what anyone would rank as sexually attractive (altough I do reserve the possibility that he doesn't look like a total monster either). That must have affected his sexual behaviour, most likely to his abstinence from it.

The confiscated porn really proves no matter what that women turn him on. The amount of it found was quite staggering (which is actually quite bothering even, when thinking of the fact that a man of his status should be able to find a lover quite easily were the circumstances different). He didn't really have gay porn, as far as the court transcripts go. That one single item (?) was an art book that depicted gay fantasies. Who knows was he comfortable when watching the pictures, but I doubt he was reading it everyday. It is also possible to be "asexual" and be aroused by pornography, as asexuality manifests itself on the practical level.

To me, he just seems scared of physical touch. And since he is quite old already, it surfaces in weird ways. - i.e. in his unconventional way of having children.
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Reply #14 posted 05/18/05 8:39am

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This is stupid, it's plain to me that MJ perfers the company of young men.
Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater?
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Reply #15 posted 05/18/05 8:45am

Annastesia22

Why ask this question ?
he likes young teenage boys .
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Reply #16 posted 05/18/05 8:55am

CinisterCee

MJ likes penis. The judge is trying to determine what age of penis he likes.
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Reply #17 posted 05/18/05 8:57am

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With a all the money MJ has or had, I wonder why he never moved to a part of the world where it is legal to be with underage boys. shrug
Haters travel in packs and they are offended or threatened by klhk, haters express intense hostility toward the subject of hate. Haters are annoyed and roll thier eyes when klhk is paid a compliment. ask yourself, are u a hater?
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Reply #18 posted 05/18/05 8:58am

TheFrog

disbelief
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Reply #19 posted 05/18/05 9:00am

CinisterCee

TheFrog said:

disbelief


sad You look young, Frog. There's still a chance for you.
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Reply #20 posted 05/18/05 9:02am

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Novabreaker said:

Michael Jackson is obviously trans-gendered. But in a very unconventional way.

He prefers his face to look like a woman's (in fact his face alterations could be seen as one form of sex-change operations), yet from the head down he strikes to me as quite masculine. His choice of clothes isn't typical for a transvestite, they don't denote much overt feminine sexuality. And moreover, unlike transvestites he doesn't seem to be much of a fetishist. This would hint at some sort of asexuality indeed.

I think the most important factor that people always forget when speculating Jackson's sexual orientation is that he is most likely quite shy about his appearance. Vitiligo or not, it's clear that if we saw Michael Jackson's body up-close, naked and without make-up the sight wouldn't necessarily be the most pleasant - he is apparently quite blotchy and definitely not what anyone would rank as sexually attractive (altough I do reserve the possibility that he doesn't look like a total monster either). That must have affected his sexual behaviour, most likely to his abstinence from it.

The confiscated porn really proves no matter what that women turn him on. The amount of it found was quite staggering (which is actually quite bothering even, when thinking of the fact that a man of his status should be able to find a lover quite easily were the circumstances different). He didn't really have gay porn, as far as the court transcripts go. That one single item (?) was an art book that depicted gay fantasies. Who knows was he comfortable when watching the pictures, but I doubt he was reading it everyday. It is also possible to be "asexual" and be aroused by pornography, as asexuality manifests itself on the practical level.

To me, he just seems scared of physical touch. And since he is quite old already, it surfaces in weird ways. - i.e. in his unconventional way of having children.


Someone other than me with a brain on an MJ thread. How refreshing. smile
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Reply #21 posted 05/18/05 9:02am

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klhk said:

With a all the money MJ has or had, I wonder why he never moved to a part of the world where it is legal to be with underage boys. shrug


Mike didn't get accused of this until he was 30, stopped at 35 and suddenly got the urge 10 years later. Rich pedophiles get their pray in other ways. Mike could easily do so If he wanted. Wake up, he never touched this kid. I suggest you guys start reading the court threads. I know cinister does. cool
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Reply #22 posted 05/18/05 9:05am

Novabreaker

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Someone other than me with a brain on an MJ thread. How refreshing. smile


No. I just think I am about as sexually fucked-up myself as he is. wink
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Reply #23 posted 05/18/05 9:05am

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TheFrog said:

disbelief


sad You look young, Frog. There's still a chance for you.


thanks for the words of encouragement. smile

i'm gonna take each day as it comes. smile
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Reply #24 posted 05/18/05 9:06am

CinisterCee

lilgish said:

klhk said:

With a all the money MJ has or had, I wonder why he never moved to a part of the world where it is legal to be with underage boys. shrug


Mike didn't get accused of this until he was 30, stopped at 35 and suddenly got the urge 10 years later. Rich pedophiles get their pray in other ways. Mike could easily do so If he wanted. Wake up, he never touched this kid. I suggest you guys start reading the court threads. I know cinister does. cool


Yup.
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Reply #25 posted 05/18/05 9:06am

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Novabreaker said:

Cloudbuster said:

Someone other than me with a brain on an MJ thread. How refreshing. smile


No. I just think I am about as sexually fucked-up myself as he is. wink


Me, three. wink
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Reply #26 posted 05/18/05 9:09am

CinisterCee

Novabreaker is actually right about MJ's asexuality.

It would be difficult for MJ to share his body with such a damaged body image (self-image).
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Reply #27 posted 05/18/05 9:17am

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CinisterCee said:

lilgish said:



Mike didn't get accused of this until he was 30, stopped at 35 and suddenly got the urge 10 years later. Rich pedophiles get their pray in other ways. Mike could easily do so If he wanted. Wake up, he never touched this kid. I suggest you guys start reading the court threads. I know cinister does. cool


Yup.


Holla
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Reply #28 posted 05/18/05 9:22am

CinisterCee

lilgish said:



Holla


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Reply #29 posted 05/18/05 9:25am

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CinisterCee said:

lilgish said:



Holla




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