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Thread started 06/06/05 4:07pm

CinisterCee

What happened to orchestras in music?

I'm sittin here listenin to

"Walk On By" by Isaac Hayes.



And I'm wondering what happened to strings in soul music. Even something like Prince and the Clare Fischer strings, just doesn't seem to happen all that often.


If you know some newer soul music that has real strings on it, reply! biggrin
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Reply #1 posted 06/06/05 4:09pm

MrTation

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They were replaced by cheezy synths in the 80s.
"...all you need ...is justa touch...of mojo hand....."
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Reply #2 posted 06/06/05 4:43pm

theAudience

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MrTation said:

They were replaced by cheezy synths in the 80s.

And thesexofit is as pleased as punch.

cool

Seriously though, it probably boils down to...



...as usual. Hiring an orchestrator, the actual muscians, etc.


tA

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Reply #3 posted 06/06/05 4:46pm

CinisterCee

That's the part I don't get. It wasn't inexpensive back in the day either.
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Reply #4 posted 06/06/05 5:01pm

theAudience

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CinisterCee said:

That's the part I don't get. It wasn't inexpensive back in the day either.

True. I think back then, it was expected that real muscians would be doing these sessions.
If an orchestra was needed, then so be it. It's all part of the budget.

But part of the answer may also lie within a deeper question...what happened to soul music?


tA

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Reply #5 posted 06/06/05 7:14pm

CinisterCee

theAudience said:


But part of the answer may also lie within a deeper question...what happened to soul music?


eek

puff puff pass, tA lol
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Reply #6 posted 06/06/05 7:17pm

thesexofit

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theAudience said:

MrTation said:

They were replaced by cheezy synths in the 80s.

And thesexofit is as pleased as punch.

cool

Seriously though, it probably boils down to...



...as usual. Hiring an orchestrator, the actual muscians, etc.


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


'tiss true. Fake horns are the bees.
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Reply #7 posted 06/06/05 7:19pm

Luv4oneanotha

cost alot of dough to hire an orchestra
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Reply #8 posted 06/06/05 7:24pm

GangstaFam

cueing "It's Ecstasy When You Lay Down Next To Me"... love
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Reply #9 posted 06/06/05 7:25pm

CinisterCee

GangstaFam said:

cueing "It's Ecstasy When You Lay Down Next To Me"... love



Another great example. sexy
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Reply #10 posted 06/06/05 7:27pm

thesexofit

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CinisterCee said:

GangstaFam said:

cueing "It's Ecstasy When You Lay Down Next To Me"... love



Another great example. sexy



"get outta my dreams (get into my car)" is a great example too
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Reply #11 posted 06/06/05 7:28pm

theAudience

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CinisterCee said:

theAudience said:


But part of the answer may also lie within a deeper question...what happened to soul music?


eek

puff puff pass, tA lol



Heavy man.


tA

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Reply #12 posted 06/06/05 7:30pm

GangstaFam

CinisterCee said:

Another great example. sexy

Bjork totally rocks an orchestra, but then again, she isn't exactly soul music.
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Reply #13 posted 06/06/05 7:30pm

CinisterCee

lol
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Reply #14 posted 06/06/05 7:32pm

thesexofit

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We should be asking, what happened to fake ass shit.

Orchastra's came back with neo soul right? Remember that MTV unplugged uptown rap thing? Ll cool J had an orchastra eek That was a sight for sore eyes.
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Reply #15 posted 06/06/05 7:42pm

CinisterCee

I'm not sure what I'm getting at.

It's just I'm listening to a song like "Turn Back The Hands Of Time" by Tyrone Davis, and thinkin' ... no one would even bother to have a string segment like that, even if it was only a quartet.
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Reply #16 posted 06/06/05 7:44pm

thesexofit

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CinisterCee said:

I'm not sure what I'm getting at.

It's just I'm listening to a song like "Turn Back The Hands Of Time" by Tyrone Davis, and thinkin' ... no one would even bother to have a string segment like that, even if it was only a quartet.



LL did
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Reply #17 posted 06/06/05 7:49pm

theAudience

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Aw hell,...



..."Let's get it on"




MFSB Band




The Salsoul Orchestra


tA

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Reply #18 posted 06/06/05 8:26pm

GangstaFam

CinisterCee said:

I'm not sure what I'm getting at.

lol
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Reply #19 posted 06/07/05 1:02am

DavidEye

listen to Jamiroquai.They use strings in their music.As far as they're concerned,the 80s never happened...lol...they make music as if they were still in the 70s.
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Reply #20 posted 06/07/05 1:16am

Hotlegs

theAudience said:

CinisterCee said:



eek

puff puff pass, tA lol



Heavy man.


tA

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http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm



falloff blunt
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Reply #21 posted 06/07/05 1:17am

Hotlegs

theAudience said:

MrTation said:

They were replaced by cheezy synths in the 80s.

And thesexofit is as pleased as punch.

cool

Seriously though, it probably boils down to...



...as usual. Hiring an orchestrator, the actual muscians, etc.


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm



nod Union Fees.
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Reply #22 posted 06/07/05 1:20am

Hotlegs

theAudience said:

Aw hell,...



..."Let's get it on"




MFSB Band




The Salsoul Orchestra


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


nod That's exactly what I'm talkin about Playa pimp2.
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Reply #23 posted 06/07/05 2:35am

Ottensen

MrTation said:

They were replaced by cheezy synths in the 80s.


Yup. Then along came Pro-tools and Logic and a million sound cards to render the beloved string orchestra quasi-obsolete for recording...
sad
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Reply #24 posted 06/07/05 2:39am

Hotlegs

Ottensen said:

MrTation said:

They were replaced by cheezy synths in the 80s.


Yup. Then along came Pro-tools and Logic and a million sound cards to render the beloved string orchestra quasi-obsolete for recording...
sad

nod Unfortunately.
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Reply #25 posted 06/07/05 3:30am

lovedad43

Yeah I miss strings in music. I was listening to the Dells "Stay in my corner" and thinking how much I miss this kind of music.
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Reply #26 posted 06/07/05 4:43am

SteamForest

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Funny.....I just made a cd with a bunch of Love Unlimited Orchestra, Salsoul Orchestra and MFSB stuff on it. I'd like to put Ashford and Simpson's Bourgie Bourgie in that same category as well. biggrin Good stuff man.
I will do today what you won't, so tomorrow I can do what you can't.
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Reply #27 posted 06/07/05 4:52am

meltwithu

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well at least prince still uses a lush orchestra in his music...oh wait..those are just imported claire fisher tracks boxed
you look better on your facebook page than you do in person hmph!
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Reply #28 posted 06/07/05 6:43am

Novabreaker

Orchestral power sampling:

www.coldmeat.se
www.coldspring.co.uk
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Reply #29 posted 06/07/05 6:54am

RipHer2Shreds

Damn, a better question would be what happened to the music in music these days? neutral
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