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i'm going to try and chill. i'm a bit agitated, infact i'm a bloody nervous wreck!
 and a little  will get me through the rest of the day.
I'm gonna have to listen to some MJ too.  |
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PANDURITO said: Cloudbuster said: 50-50
Can you be more specific? 50 yes or 50 no? * [Edited 6/3/05 13:04pm] | |
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purplecam said: I've gotta be honest, I won't be shocked if they convict him of molestation. Having said that, I won't be shocked if he gets off on those charges BUT I think they'll get him for the alcohol to minors. I really believe that. Conspiracy charges were blown out of the water before the defense got to try the case. We'll just wait and see.
the charge isn't giving Alcohol to minors the charge is giving alcohols with intent to abuse minors In order for the alcohol charge to go through, the molestation charge must go as well My opinion on what's going to happen? MJ - Guilty 75% Mj - Innocent 25% | |
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I think he'll be acquitted, and the jury shouldn't take more than a week to return their verdict. I think he's innocent as charged in this instance, but I'm also convinced that he's a paedophile. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said: I think he'll be acquitted, and the jury shouldn't take more than a week to return their verdict. I think he's innocent as charged in this instance, but I'm also convinced that he's a paedophile. I thought he was one too but not anymore, of course he's not "normal" but that doesn't make him a (children)sexual predator. | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: purplecam said: I've gotta be honest, I won't be shocked if they convict him of molestation. Having said that, I won't be shocked if he gets off on those charges BUT I think they'll get him for the alcohol to minors. I really believe that. Conspiracy charges were blown out of the water before the defense got to try the case. We'll just wait and see.
the charge isn't giving Alcohol to minors the charge is giving alcohols with intent to abuse minors In order for the alcohol charge to go through, the molestation charge must go as well My opinion on what's going to happen? MJ - Guilty 75% Mj - Innocent 25% but "giving alcohol with intent to abuse" doesn't include molestation - only the intent, right? which is why it's considered to be a 'lesser charge'? i don't actually know what each of the charges are, but surely one can be guilty of giving alcohol with intent to abuse, without being guilty of the actual abuse? | |
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testicleman said: Luv4oneanotha said: the charge isn't giving Alcohol to minors the charge is giving alcohols with intent to abuse minors In order for the alcohol charge to go through, the molestation charge must go as well My opinion on what's going to happen? MJ - Guilty 75% Mj - Innocent 25% but "giving alcohol with intent to abuse" doesn't include molestation - only the intent, right? which is why it's considered to be a 'lesser charge'? i don't actually know what each of the charges are, but surely one can be guilty of giving alcohol with intent to abuse, without being guilty of the actual abuse? nope if the molestation goes the the booz goes... i believe the formal charge is called "Administering an intoxicating agent to perform lewd , lascivious acts upon a minor" if it was just Administering an intoxicating agent upon a minor than he could be pegged with it but if he's pegged with the molestation he's getting the booz count Prosecution should have specified he gave booz to minors not only his victims | |
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I just heard from the MJ boards that the verdict is being announced today. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: I just heard from the MJ boards that the verdict is being announced today.
can see the headlines now "Wacko Jacko Guilty of Child Molestation" | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: I just heard from the MJ boards that the verdict is being announced today.
Hmmm, I guess that's a good sign. Just wonder how the MJ boards would know this? | |
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calldapplwondery83 said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: I just heard from the MJ boards that the verdict is being announced today.
Hmmm, I guess that's a good sign. Just wonder how the MJ boards would know this? oh you didn't know? Mj fans have Prescience they are certified Psychics... 
Call me now for a free reading! | |
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This is nerve wracking.
I hope for an acquittal. I see this family as being so conniving, and street wise.. It is so sad for me to see a Latino family do this. If I were a juror I couldn't in good faith convict a man with so many inconsistencies, and lies.. Doubt is be so strong in my soul. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
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Just a question, If he is found guilty, was he set up? or did he do it? I think the verdict seems to be irrelevant, people have made their minds up already. It's not irrelevant to him of course or his family or the boys family but it does seem that way to the public at large.
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Lleena said: Just a question, If he is found guilty, was he set up? or did he do it? I think the verdict seems to be irrelevant, people have made their minds up already. It's not irrelevant to him of course or his family or the boys family but it does seem that way to the public at large.
..... [Edited 6/3/05 15:03pm] your correct! im at a crossroads now, I don't think Mj's Innocent nor guilty anymore im not satisfied... i think all biasness has left me both sides proved nothing i think their should be a mistrial and both sides need to investigate the case deeper | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: Lleena said: Just a question, If he is found guilty, was he set up? or did he do it? I think the verdict seems to be irrelevant, people have made their minds up already. It's not irrelevant to him of course or his family or the boys family but it does seem that way to the public at large.
..... [Edited 6/3/05 15:03pm] your correct! im at a crossroads now, I don't think Mj's Innocent nor guilty anymore im not satisfied... i think all biasness has left me both sides proved nothing i think their should be a mistrial and both sides need to investigate the case deeper I think people are either convinced of his guilt, or his innocence. Some think like you and are unsure, but few do. The prosecution didn't provide any conclusive evidence and the burden was on them to prove guilt. However, the defence didn't seem too convincing either.. | |
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Lleena said: Just a question, If he is found guilty, was he set up? or did he do it? I think the verdict seems to be irrelevant, people have made their minds up already. It's not irrelevant to him of course or his family or the boys family but it does seem that way to the public at large.
..... [Edited 6/3/05 15:03pm] Good point. Lleena this boys mom reminds me of the stalker.. No lie. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
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I think people are forgetting this is the third boy to accuse him of this ,two others boys were paid to not bring him to court ..i just hope he finds help whatever the outcome is and he needs to stay away from young boys . | |
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Annastesia22 said: I think people are forgetting this is the third boy to accuse him of this ,two others boys were paid to not bring him to court ..i just hope he finds help whatever the outcome is and he needs to stay away from young boys .
3 boys 2 formal accusations all 3 of them can be easily discredited seriously if your gonna post here you need to look up your facts but back to your point It would make sense, if in fact there were more victims Pedophiles victimize hundreds of children within a lifetime and Jackson certainly has access to thousands of children shouldn't there be more victims... ahh wait hush money... mmm paying off 20 million a peice no wonder he's broke1 there is not much logic in that... its also ironic that all three of the children that accuse him have had shady past... Its a very simple equation once you find a weakness... you aim directly for it... i learned that while percieving the MJ sextape scandle years ago... MJ has money and an open weakness... its fairly simple to capitalize on it... like this fool now who's suing him because MJ kidnapped him and abused him physically and sexually physically as in battered and bruised him... we get a mistrial Lets hunt down Jordy Chandler Lets get Brett Barnes Lets get jordy's Father Evan! and see wtf is going down cause i seriously wan't to know if this man is guilty or not and so far i don't know! which is F8cking sad after 14 weeks or trial | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: Annastesia22 said: I think people are forgetting this is the third boy to accuse him of this ,two others boys were paid to not bring him to court ..i just hope he finds help whatever the outcome is and he needs to stay away from young boys .
3 boys 2 formal accusations all 3 of them can be easily discredited seriously if your gonna post here you need to look up your facts but back to your point It would make sense, if in fact there were more victims Pedophiles victimize hundreds of children within a lifetime and Jackson certainly has access to thousands of children shouldn't there be more victims... ahh wait hush money... mmm paying off 20 million a peice no wonder he's broke1 there is not much logic in that... its also ironic that all three of the children that accuse him have had shady past... Its a very simple equation once you find a weakness... you aim directly for it... i learned that while percieving the MJ sextape scandle years ago... MJ has money and an open weakness... its fairly simple to capitalize on it... like this fool now who's suing him because MJ kidnapped him and abused him physically and sexually physically as in battered and bruised him... we get a mistrial Lets hunt down Jordy Chandler Lets get Brett Barnes Lets get jordy's Father Evan! and see wtf is going down cause i seriously wan't to know if this man is guilty or not and so far i don't know! which is F8cking sad after 14 weeks or trial  its not funny he has a problem | |
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Annastesia22 said: Luv4oneanotha said: 3 boys 2 formal accusations all 3 of them can be easily discredited seriously if your gonna post here you need to look up your facts but back to your point It would make sense, if in fact there were more victims Pedophiles victimize hundreds of children within a lifetime and Jackson certainly has access to thousands of children shouldn't there be more victims... ahh wait hush money... mmm paying off 20 million a peice no wonder he's broke1 there is not much logic in that... its also ironic that all three of the children that accuse him have had shady past... Its a very simple equation once you find a weakness... you aim directly for it... i learned that while percieving the MJ sextape scandle years ago... MJ has money and an open weakness... its fairly simple to capitalize on it... like this fool now who's suing him because MJ kidnapped him and abused him physically and sexually physically as in battered and bruised him... we get a mistrial Lets hunt down Jordy Chandler Lets get Brett Barnes Lets get jordy's Father Evan! and see wtf is going down cause i seriously wan't to know if this man is guilty or not and so far i don't know! which is F8cking sad after 14 weeks or trial its not funny he has a problemi mean who seriously doesn't like little boys? Little girls suck! they're boring (no offence to yall females) when you wan't bonding you go to males Duh! that still doesn't mean he's a molester got anything else? | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: Annastesia22 said: Yeah he paid off two boys i know the facts ,i also know he likes little boys
its not funny he has a problemi mean who seriously doesn't like little boys? Little girls suck! they're boring (no offence to yall females) when you wan't bonding you go to males Duh! that still doesn't mean he's a molester got anything else? Oh please look at what you just posted ,really thats all you can think of little girls suck ..he is 46 let him bond with adults | |
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Annastesia22 said: Luv4oneanotha said: i mean who seriously doesn't like little boys? Little girls suck! they're boring (no offence to yall females) when you wan't bonding you go to males Duh! that still doesn't mean he's a molester got anything else? Oh please look at what you just posted ,really thats all you can think of little girls suck ..he is 46 let him bond with adults hey if im lying im dying... Little girls suck! and perhaps if he connected with adults he'd bond with them as well Adults Judge first before showing any type of compassion its the opposite with kids Plus kids are funner than adults, i love hanging out with my cousins and their friends brings me back to my childhood maybe you should go watch Willy Wonka and The chocolate Factory in speaking maybe Willy Wonka was based after a pedophile... [Edited 6/3/05 16:12pm] | |
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Really, I truly believe Mike is not guilty..
The charges are too big to seem "real", and the proofs don't exist... I don't see why Mike will be find guilty... Do you really believe that Michael Jackson molested this boy ? Com'on, it's too big... I don't believe it, and a lot of people don't believe either... If he's found guilty I will be shocked... |
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sag10 said: Lleena said: Just a question, If he is found guilty, was he set up? or did he do it? I think the verdict seems to be irrelevant, people have made their minds up already. It's not irrelevant to him of course or his family or the boys family but it does seem that way to the public at large.
..... [Edited 6/3/05 15:03pm] Good point. Lleena this boys mom reminds me of the stalker.. No lie. really? That is scary  | |
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I seriously doubt Willy Wonka EVER shared his bed with Charlie.... | |
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Lleena said: I seriously doubt Willy Wonka EVER shared his bed with Charlie....
whatchoo doing in this forum?!? GIT (no pun intended  ) yo butt back to GD!!
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Lleena said: I seriously doubt Willy Wonka EVER shared his bed with Charlie....
Of course not he already shares his bed with the Oompa Loompas! | |
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SpcMs said: 
Janet looking mmm... different. Janet needs a hug for eating more. I love it!!! [Edited 6/3/05 22:23pm] | |
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krayzie said: Really, I truly believe Mike is not guilty..
The charges are too big to seem "real", and the proofs don't exist... I don't see why Mike will be find guilty... Do you really believe that Michael Jackson molested this boy ? Com'on, it's too big... I don't believe it, and a lot of people don't believe either... If he's found guilty I will be shocked... Michael got screw! | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: testicleman said: but "giving alcohol with intent to abuse" doesn't include molestation - only the intent, right? which is why it's considered to be a 'lesser charge'? i don't actually know what each of the charges are, but surely one can be guilty of giving alcohol with intent to abuse, without being guilty of the actual abuse? nope if the molestation goes the the booz goes... i believe the formal charge is called "Administering an intoxicating agent to perform lewd , lascivious acts upon a minor" if it was just Administering an intoxicating agent upon a minor than he could be pegged with it but if he's pegged with the molestation he's getting the booz count Prosecution should have specified he gave booz to minors not only his victims 
no, they were the original charges filed. i thought the whole point of the discussions a couple of days ago was that the judge in his directions would allow the jury to find MJ guilty of a 'lesser charge' of administering alcohol without the need for there to be the lewd acts too.  | |
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