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"WHITE" MUSIC & "BLACK" MUSIC I really can't stand it when i hear people say things like that. Music is music and really shouldn't have any bias based on race. people see artists like Lenny Kravitz and beacuse he's a rock star, u hear stupid shit like "oh Lenny thinks he's white"  since when did rock music become an all white culture club?? and the same goes for rap i see alot of white rappers coming up (and asian ones too) and the same stereotypes are abound. "they're trying to be black" i just people would see artists for thier musical ability instead of the color of thier skin  "Americans consume the most fast food than any nation on Earth and the stupid motherfuckers wonder why they are so fat? " - Oprah Winfrey | |
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I always hated those terms too. Makes no sense. What is "White/Black music"? It's not a genre nor does it tell me anything about the music.  Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Prince fans aren't like that, none of us care that he's half Italian
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my co-worker and i were talking about this earlier in the week. we don't have to prove our blackness by listening to r&b all day. | |
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k7i2m3 said: my co-worker and i were talking about this earlier in the week. we don't have to prove our blackness by listening to r&b all day.
I listen to bands like Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, Foo Fighters, etc., as much as I listen to old skool R&B and hip-hop(the new stuff doesn't impress me at all). I could care less if people give me strange looks. Xavier, what you said also applies to radio. Everything's segmented these days. |
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Crap ; blues . jazz and funk (fe) are black music
Nothing wrong or biased in calling it that either It's just a fact that those genres originated from blacks ! Geez , some of you are taking this race /pc thing far too serious ! (btw i think nearly all of today's music evolved from 'black music') [Edited 5/29/05 21:29pm] | |
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Xavier23 said: I really can't stand it when i hear people say things like that. Music is music and really shouldn't have any bias based on race. people see artists like Lenny Kravitz and beacuse he's a rock star, u hear stupid shit like "oh Lenny thinks he's white"
since when did rock music become an all white culture club?? and the same goes for rap i see alot of white rappers coming up (and asian ones too) and the same stereotypes are abound. "they're trying to be black" i just people would see artists for thier musical ability instead of the color of thier skin Apart from classical, new age, & trance, all music genres in general IS Black Music by origin. | |
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Xavier23 said: I really can't stand it when i hear people say things like that. Music is music and really shouldn't have any bias based on race. people see artists like Lenny Kravitz and beacuse he's a rock star, u hear stupid shit like "oh Lenny thinks he's white" Amen!
since when did rock music become an all white culture club?? and the same goes for rap i see alot of white rappers coming up (and asian ones too) and the same stereotypes are abound. "they're trying to be black" i just people would see artists for thier musical ability instead of the color of thier skin Black Music! White Music! Nonsence! All music should co-exist. Equally. Hell! Some of my best music is Black music. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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Well these name tags are cultural conventions that are widely used, so we really shouldn't challenge their validity as existing definitions. However, on your own behalf you can change the situation just by using language differently when discussing black/white artists.
Given that so very few African-Americans seem to start rock bands these days I think the separation makes quite a lot of sense. And black music, as it is, has always been a counter force against the white mainstream. That's why there is talk about "white rappers", and it's just become a convention. Of course, now that these days African-Americans in the US dominate at least the Singles charts and video airplay many of these idioms could do a reconsideration. I'll change my mind when I see a single African-American industrial artist. | |
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Fortunately, I grew up with friends and musicians who let me check out all kinds of music. In my book, there's only 2 kinds of music..GOOD MUSIC AND BAD MUSIC. | |
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I have no problem when black people make pop/rock music or when white people make R&B/funk. BUT....if you are going to do something, then dammit, do it right. Don't water it down to appeal to both a pop and R&B audience because that makes the music weak. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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I really can't stand it when i hear people say things like that. Music is music and really shouldn't have any bias based on race. people see artists like Lenny Kravitz and beacuse he's a rock star, u hear stupid shit like "oh Lenny thinks he's white" since when did rock music become an all white culture club?? and the same goes for rap i see alot of white rappers coming up (and asian ones too) and the same stereotypes are abound. "they're trying to be black" i just people would see artists for thier musical ability instead of the color of thier skin
I agree! | |
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vainandy said: I have no problem when black people make pop/rock music or when white people make R&B/funk. BUT....if you are going to do something, then dammit, do it right. Don't water it down to appeal to both a pop and R&B audience because that makes the music weak.
Thank you chile,,,thats ALL I wanted to read! | |
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k7i2m3 said: my co-worker and i were talking about this earlier in the week. we don't have to prove our blackness by listening to r&b all day.
On the same token, listening to R&B all day doesn't mean that you're not open to other forms of music. | |
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These are more marketing ideas than actual musical ones. While some styles of music may be listened to or performed more by one group or another, most musical styles contain a lot of influences from other cultures. Usually the musicians themselves are more "open-minded" than their audiences (for example- a lot of rappers who enjoy rock, or a lot of country artists who like R&B) #SOCIETYDEFINESU | |
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jjhunsecker said: These are more marketing ideas than actual musical ones. While some styles of music may be listened to or performed more by one group or another, most musical styles contain a lot of influences from other cultures. Usually the musicians themselves are more "open-minded" than their audiences (for example- a lot of rappers who enjoy rock, or a lot of country artists who like R&B)
I agree. Just so they can package it easier. "rock" is white mans "soul" u know  | |
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It's easy to label stuff (just like people) in order to describe it. But then the people who don't fit those neat categories (often the most innovative & special) get left out because nobody knows where to put them.
I don't shy away from descriptions, but when the descriptions are labels that start to define us it's at best boring & homogenous and at the worst hateful, prejudiced, and demeaning Check this song out at:
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I think a lot of music today has just went mainstream. We shouldn't consider it a "white" music and "black" music thing. That's just like back in the 70's where disco took over just about every genre of music and a lot of artists got their #1 hits. Take the Bee Gees for example: when they released their 1975 Main Course album and their 1977 Saturday Night Fever, they just took over, but later in the 80's--they were considered again to be the hitless Bee Gees. That's probably what's happening today--rap, R&B, blues, and even jazz has went pop and has "crossed over" a lot. Check me out and add me on:
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vainandy said: I have no problem when black people make pop/rock music or when white people make R&B/funk. BUT....if you are going to do something, then dammit, do it right. Don't water it down to appeal to both a pop and R&B audience because that makes the music weak.
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andyman91 said: It's easy to label stuff (just like people) in order to describe it. But then the people who don't fit those neat categories (often the most innovative & special) get left out because nobody knows where to put them.
I don't shy away from descriptions, but when the descriptions are labels that start to define us it's at best boring & homogenous and at the worst hateful, prejudiced, and demeaning  | |
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White, Black, Puerto Rican/Everybody justa freakin'/Good times a-rollin'!
If we could all only get to Uptown somehow and end this ridiculousness... Silent shouts, I hope you hear
I'm calling out to your body Baby, you know just what to do Close the door, no interlude | |
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