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Printablethesexofit said: VoicesCarry said: No, the blame falls with the 30-something guy who's fucking them and getting off on the fact that they're 14. That would be R. Kelly. Maybe you are a pedo after all with these sorts of justifications.  I didn't justify it. But yeah at his age (was he 30?) then that is pedo. But as a teen at 19, i can tell the underage girls now. At 17, I was blind. She said 16, she wasn't. Shit happens. We were talking about old dudes here, not teens screwing teens. | |
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R. KELLY SUCKS!!!   "Americans consume the most fast food than any nation on Earth and the stupid motherfuckers wonder why they are so fat? " - Oprah Winfrey | |
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VoicesCarry said: thesexofit said: Deosnt justify it, u just gotta admit that the girl is to blame aswell sometimes. I thought she was 15? I've had girls lie to me about their age. Iam better at spotting them now. When in clubs, 15 year olds can very easily look 16, and sometimes same with 14 year olds. No, the blame falls with the 30-something guy who's fucking them and getting off on the fact that they're 14. That would be R. Kelly. Maybe you are a pedo after all with these sorts of justifications. Damn i missed you man! but you know what you know i have to disagree with ya hehe Now i never said that it was justification of anytype. R. Still did the crime BUT! like i said it was consenual it wasn't rape... hell majority of the time he was paying them... now... what i think the females should have some of the blame as well... this was not a molestaion of anytype This was a statutory Rape case the women were over 12, 14,15,16 i believe it was nonforcible sexual intercourse i think they should know better as well, Now im not defending R. but i must point out the obvious [Edited 5/29/05 8:42am] | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: VoicesCarry said: No, the blame falls with the 30-something guy who's fucking them and getting off on the fact that they're 14. That would be R. Kelly. Maybe you are a pedo after all with these sorts of justifications. Damn i missed you man! but you know what you know i have to disagree with ya hehe Now i never said that it was justification of anytype. R. Still did the crime BUT! like i said it was consenual it wasn't rape... hell majority of the time he was paying them... now... what i think the females should have some of the blame as well... this was not a molestaion of anytype This was a statutory Rape case the women were over 12, 14,15,16 i believe it was nonforcible sexual intercourse i think they should know better as well, Now im not defending R. but i must point out the obvious [Edited 5/29/05 8:42am] The obvious that a 14-year-old should not be having sex with an adult, and that said adult must be criminally responsible for it, because a 14-year-old, although s/he may "have been asking for it", is not mentally or physically prepared for the ramifications of such an act. It's called an adult taking advantage of a child - hence statutory rape. | |
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More importantly, he's got like 10 albums planned! 
What is this? The Emancipation of RiRi? | |
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mariahj said: I remember back in the day everything he did was great!
Now everything sounds the same. Happy People sounds likSTEP IN THE NAME OF LOVE part 3. IGNITION was good and I'm feelin his new single TRAPPED IN THE CLOSET, But a lot of the songs on CHOCOLATE FACTORY sound boring and unoriginal, and I've heard 5 songs off of his new cd and they are just average. He sucks now! Anyone else feel this way  All that underage jailbait putang has took his mind. | |
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psykosoul said: I used to sing R. Kelly's praises on his first 2 albums. The way I see it. I grew up and R. Kelly didn't. He's a very talented individual but I think he wastes his time on bullshit ass lyrics and appealing to children. He is one of the main reasons that R&B has gone down the toilet and everything is so damn forumlaic now.
I won't pretend like I don't like his music. I do like some of it. But for every R. Kelly song that I like (i.e. I Will Never Leave You, Baby Baby Baby, Your Body's Calling) he's got 5 that make me despise his ass (i.e. Trapped in the Closet, Feeling on Your Booty, You Remind Me of My Jeep, etc) What sickens me is how critics are starting to compare his ass to Marvin and Al Green. He has single-handedly tainted the respect I had for Ron Isley and the Isley Brother name offering him the same bullshit that he records for himself. For him to be considered an "icon of R&B", he hasn't composed a whole lot that makes me think he's worthy of the moniker. As far as R. Kelly and peein' on little girls: since the courts won't serve real justice, I think the parents of any of those girls, including Aaliyah should come forth and castrate his ass.  |
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VoicesCarry said: Luv4oneanotha said: Damn i missed you man! but you know what you know i have to disagree with ya hehe Now i never said that it was justification of anytype. R. Still did the crime BUT! like i said it was consenual it wasn't rape... hell majority of the time he was paying them... now... what i think the females should have some of the blame as well... this was not a molestaion of anytype This was a statutory Rape case the women were over 12, 14,15,16 i believe it was nonforcible sexual intercourse i think they should know better as well, Now im not defending R. but i must point out the obvious [Edited 5/29/05 8:42am] The obvious that a 14-year-old should not be having sex with an adult, and that said adult must be criminally responsible for it, because a 14-year-old, although s/he may "have been asking for it", is not mentally or physically prepared for the ramifications of such an act. It's called an adult taking advantage of a child - hence statutory rape. Careful, theirs a double edge sword when it comes with this topic... Alot of people throw around the "Mental" capacity os said child, What determines this? The age 18 is just a limit... years ago the limit use to be 21, and years before that 24 I assume in another few years they will no doubt lower it to 16... Because the mental capacity of these teenagers are becoming more mature... this is in sync with human evolution It is fool-hardy to categorize all teenagers as not having "the mental or physical ramifications of such an act" Not everyone has the same mental or physical ability , you especially should know that... When i was 16 i was in a relationship with a 22 year old women... I told her i was 18 
She didn't have a clue because of mental status, which was more advance than the common 16 year old male (not to toot my own horn) in some ways i was more mature then her... you can say in ways i seduced her than vice versa, but the law would state that i would be the victim by default... Females are Physically ready for sex as the age of 12, sometimes earlier... Mentally Females are more advance than males (not around where i live) How are you so sure that the female Kelly was engaging in wasn't mentally ready for the act, or perhaps planning upon it... Or how do you even know that the female seduced him instead of vice versa... which is quite common These are complicated waters... ... once again im not defending r. just trying to make a point their are more then one point of view but ultimately i agree with you, Kelly should have been responsible enough to avoid this... new topic is R.Kelly a Pedophile? Yes and No.. i can name hundreds of men who are attracted to 15 and 16 year olds but do not act upon it, Pedophilia - depending on which definition you take to heart, is specifically about children under the age 13... why? simple because majority of pedophiles are attracted to children that havent developed physically yet, it excites them. by the time 15 or 16 they are nearly fully developed, hell a 16 year old can be considered a pedophile if he's attracted to children 5 years under his age... | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: CalhounSq said: No. He pee'd on under-aged girls. He had sex with under-aged girls. Those are good enough reasons for me 
Does ANYONE care about under-aged girls anymore??  Oh wait, you already said "not that I care" - nevermind For real! I don't know why anyone is shocked by or in disbelief of the charges. He did it once when me married an underaged Aaliyah. Why did nobody think he'd do it again? Age ain't nothin' but a number...indeed. Ok, I see what your point is but still Chester The Molester is a Damn Perv and I am glad that Dave Chapell Clowned on his ass. He should've left that jailbait pussy alone. | |
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GangstaFam said: More importantly, he's got like 10 albums planned!
What is this? The Emancipation of RiRi?  | |
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All I know is that the guy, to me, has made and still makes great music. Some of his joints, you cant help but to just LOVE them. | |
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theAudience said: paisleypark4 said: U can sit there and complain, but Trapped In The Closet is really good
C'mon bro. VoicesCarry wrote some better stuff than that just the other day.  (damn search function)
tA  Tribal
Disorder Exactly TA!
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Luv4oneanotha said: VoicesCarry said: The obvious that a 14-year-old should not be having sex with an adult, and that said adult must be criminally responsible for it, because a 14-year-old, although s/he may "have been asking for it", is not mentally or physically prepared for the ramifications of such an act. It's called an adult taking advantage of a child - hence statutory rape. Careful, theirs a double edge sword when it comes with this topic... Alot of people throw around the "Mental" capacity os said child, What determines this? The age 18 is just a limit... years ago the limit use to be 21, and years before that 24 I assume in another few years they will no doubt lower it to 16... Because the mental capacity of these teenagers are becoming more mature... this is in sync with human evolution It is fool-hardy to categorize all teenagers as not having "the mental or physical ramifications of such an act" Not everyone has the same mental or physical ability , you especially should know that... When i was 16 i was in a relationship with a 22 year old women... I told her i was 18
She didn't have a clue because of mental status, which was more advance than the common 16 year old male (not to toot my own horn) in some ways i was more mature then her... you can say in ways i seduced her than vice versa, but the law would state that i would be the victim by default... Females are Physically ready for sex as the age of 12, sometimes earlier... Mentally Females are more advance than males (not around where i live) How are you so sure that the female Kelly was engaging in wasn't mentally ready for the act, or perhaps planning upon it... Or how do you even know that the female seduced him instead of vice versa... which is quite common These are complicated waters... ... once again im not defending r. just trying to make a point their are more then one point of view but ultimately i agree with you, Kelly should have been responsible enough to avoid this... new topic is R.Kelly a Pedophile? Yes and No.. i can name hundreds of men who are attracted to 15 and 16 year olds but do not act upon it, Pedophilia - depending on which definition you take to heart, is specifically about children under the age 13... why? simple because majority of pedophiles are attracted to children that havent developed physically yet, it excites them. by the time 15 or 16 they are nearly fully developed, hell a 16 year old can be considered a pedophile if he's attracted to children 5 years under his age... Awesome post. I wish i coulda said that. I admit that when I was 17, I slept with a girl 14. But she lied to me straight out. But I did leave her. It just felt wrong to me. U should hear some of the people I know. They happily hit anything with even a hint of breast. In uk, age is 16. I think there were talks to lower it to 14, but u could discuss that 'til doomsday. Physically, ur ready 4 sex as soon as u hit puberty. Mentally, proberly around the same time. Did u feel any different after sex with someone u actually wanted to be with? I was 15 when I first had proper intercourse. The problem is older guys who are twice their age or more hitting on girls. They know they can be manipulated as girls wanna prove to them they are adults etc..... anyway. There are always 2 sides of the story. | |
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i like trapped in the closet... so what  | |
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Honestly, if you're over 25 or 30 and a girl can lie to you about her age by 2 or 3 years she's probably a chic you shouldn't be messing with in the first place.
R. Kelly's brother, Kerry was interviewed by Wendy Williams recently and he said he knew something was up when would be out and he'd tell his people to get a certain girl or her number or something and they'd say 'R, she looks a little young' and he'd just call them 'haters'. Kerry said some of these girls looked twelve. Because R has 'yesmen' around him he can continue to do these things and he has a serious thing about control. He has to have control over every situation and anything he can't control he challenges, hence his interest in young girls. Another interesting tidbit was that R can't really read or write. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: Honestly, if you're over 25 or 30 and a girl can lie to you about her age by 2 or 3 years she's probably a chic you shouldn't be messing with in the first place.
R. Kelly's brother, Kerry was interviewed by Wendy Williams recently and he said he knew something was up when would be out and he'd tell his people to get a certain girl or her number or something and they'd say 'R, she looks a little young' and he'd just call them 'haters'. Kerry said some of these girls looked twelve. Because R has 'yesmen' around him he can continue to do these things and he has a serious thing about control. He has to have control over every situation and anything he can't control he challenges, hence his interest in young girls. Another interesting tidbit was that R can't really read or write. Im sorry but thats not believable... dudes a classically trained pianist and he can't read or write Damn even in your darkest hour, your familly will betray you... i wonder how much he got paid to say that... | |
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JackieBlue said: Honestly, if you're over 25 or 30 and a girl can lie to you about her age by 2 or 3 years she's probably a chic you shouldn't be messing with in the first place.
R. Kelly's brother, Kerry was interviewed by Wendy Williams recently and he said he knew something was up when would be out and he'd tell his people to get a certain girl or her number or something and they'd say 'R, she looks a little young' and he'd just call them 'haters'. Kerry said some of these girls looked twelve. Because R has 'yesmen' around him he can continue to do these things and he has a serious thing about control. He has to have control over every situation and anything he can't control he challenges, hence his interest in young girls. Another interesting tidbit was that R can't really read or write. Well, this isn't surprising at all. I heard from some sources that worked with Jive Records that the exact thing as what his bro is saying did in fact go down. So, the truth is the light and it shall set you free just like good Funk. Also orgers, let's keep in mind that he marry Allayia and turn her ass out. | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: JackieBlue said: Honestly, if you're over 25 or 30 and a girl can lie to you about her age by 2 or 3 years she's probably a chic you shouldn't be messing with in the first place.
R. Kelly's brother, Kerry was interviewed by Wendy Williams recently and he said he knew something was up when would be out and he'd tell his people to get a certain girl or her number or something and they'd say 'R, she looks a little young' and he'd just call them 'haters'. Kerry said some of these girls looked twelve. Because R has 'yesmen' around him he can continue to do these things and he has a serious thing about control. He has to have control over every situation and anything he can't control he challenges, hence his interest in young girls. Another interesting tidbit was that R can't really read or write. Im sorry but thats not believable... dudes a classically trained pianist and he can't read or write Damn even in your darkest hour, your familly will betray you... i wonder how much he got paid to say that... Speaking of betrayal, didn't he try to get his brother to take the rap for him?   I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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Luv4oneanotha said: JackieBlue said: Honestly, if you're over 25 or 30 and a girl can lie to you about her age by 2 or 3 years she's probably a chic you shouldn't be messing with in the first place.
R. Kelly's brother, Kerry was interviewed by Wendy Williams recently and he said he knew something was up when would be out and he'd tell his people to get a certain girl or her number or something and they'd say 'R, she looks a little young' and he'd just call them 'haters'. Kerry said some of these girls looked twelve. Because R has 'yesmen' around him he can continue to do these things and he has a serious thing about control. He has to have control over every situation and anything he can't control he challenges, hence his interest in young girls. Another interesting tidbit was that R can't really read or write. Im sorry but thats not believable... dudes a classically trained pianist and he can't read or write Actually, it's partly true. He admitted in Vibe last year that he doesn't read very well. In fact his reading level is on par witha child's. He said that he had to work a lot to help his mother and didn't really do well in school. I mean, he can read and write though. Damn even in your darkest hour, your familly will betray you... i wonder how much he got paid to say that... | |
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Actually, it's partly true. He admitted in Vibe last year that he doesn't read very well. In fact his reading level is on par witha child's. He said that he had to work a lot to help his mother and didn't really do well in school.
But, yes he can read and write. musicman said: Luv4oneanotha said: Im sorry but thats not believable... dudes a classically trained pianist and he can't read or write Actually, it's partly true. He admitted in Vibe last year that he doesn't read very well. In fact his reading level is on par witha child's. He said that he had to work a lot to help his mother and didn't really do well in school. I mean, he can read and write though. Damn even in your darkest hour, your familly will betray you... i wonder how much he got paid to say that... | |
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CalhounSq said: Speaking of betrayal, didn't he try to get his brother to take the rap for him? Kerry said when the tapes came out, R's people went along with a story saying that it was Kerry on the tape and he was upset that no one spoke up and said, 'That's not R. Kelly but that's not, Kerry on the tape either.' [Edited 5/29/05 21:48pm] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: CalhounSq said: Speaking of betrayal, didn't he try to get his brother to take the rap for him? Kerry said when the tapes came out, R's people went along with a story saying that it was Kerry on the tape and he was upset that no one spoke up and said, 'That's not R. Kelly but that's not, Kerry on the tape either.' [Edited 5/29/05 21:48pm] Mmm hmm... I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: JackieBlue said: Kerry said when the tapes came out, R's people went along with a story saying that it was Kerry on the tape and he was upset that no one spoke up and said, 'That's not R. Kelly but that's not, Kerry on the tape either.' [Edited 5/29/05 21:48pm] Mmm hmm... R. Kelly is an overrated, simple Oedipus Rexin' cad. |
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PAPAROBBIE said: CalhounSq said: Mmm hmm... R. Kelly is an overrated, simple Oedipus Rexin' cad. That's Right. | |
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CalhounSq said: I want this fucker behind bars already
  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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PAPAROBBIE said: CalhounSq said: Mmm hmm... R. Kelly is an overrated, simple Oedipus Rexin' cad. Damn Right. | |
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'What the fuck's wrong with R.KELLY'
No talent? | |
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Novabreaker said: 'What the fuck's wrong with R.KELLY'
No talent? Plenty of Talent just misguided. | |
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Hotlegs said: Novabreaker said: No talent? Plenty of Talent just misguided. Ok. I admit, I loved "Fortunare". But it's Maxwell doing his thing, he couldn't even fuck up an R.Kelly song! | |
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