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Reply #30 posted 05/27/05 6:09am

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There's a few uptempo tracks on here shrug


"Payback" in particular nod
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Reply #31 posted 05/27/05 10:34am

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I think that's why Outkast's " BOMBS OVER BAGDAD " packed such a punch !
because it WAS UP THERE in Tempo !
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Reply #32 posted 05/27/05 10:52am

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DavidEye said:

I totally agree.I am so sick of midtempo R&B songs.Where are the hard,fast dance beats that we used to hear?? There was a time when we had fast uptempo jams like "Super Freak","Alligator Woman","Erotic City" and "You Dropped A Bomb On Me"....songs that actually sounded good in the clubs.


Hmm recently uuuhhhh.....

Lose My Breath - Destiny's Child (perfect example of a uptempo song that RADIO NEEDS MORE OF!!!
Get Right - J.Lo
Caught Up - Usher (doesnt really make me hit the floor though)
R&B Junkie / All Nite - Janet
Lose Control - Missy feat. Ciara
1 Thing - Amerie

Oh...just about all Missy's trax make me wanna hit the flo'. We need more of that though in R&B because there's definitley a void of uptempo dance coreography in videos today...OTHER than shakin sum ass in front of the camera and pausing for a few sec.s in slow motion.


EXCELLENT POST. I was going to name all those same songs.
Ciara "1, 2 Step"
Destiny's Child "Lose My Breath"
etc
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Reply #33 posted 05/27/05 10:55am

JANFAN4L

paisleypark4 said:


Hmm recently uuuhhhh.....

Lose My Breath - Destiny's Child (perfect example of a uptempo song that RADIO NEEDS MORE OF!!!


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Reply #34 posted 05/27/05 10:58am

CinisterCee

JANFAN4L said:

paisleypark4 said:


Hmm recently uuuhhhh.....

Lose My Breath - Destiny's Child (perfect example of a uptempo song that RADIO NEEDS MORE OF!!!


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yknow, radio doesn't need more Destiny's Child, but that was a big uptempo hit.
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Reply #35 posted 05/27/05 11:45am

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CinisterCee said:

paisleypark4 said:



Hmm recently uuuhhhh.....

Lose My Breath - Destiny's Child (perfect example of a uptempo song that RADIO NEEDS MORE OF!!!
Get Right - J.Lo
Caught Up - Usher (doesnt really make me hit the floor though)
R&B Junkie / All Nite - Janet
Lose Control - Missy feat. Ciara
1 Thing - Amerie

Oh...just about all Missy's trax make me wanna hit the flo'. We need more of that though in R&B because there's definitley a void of uptempo dance coreography in videos today...OTHER than shakin sum ass in front of the camera and pausing for a few sec.s in slow motion.


EXCELLENT POST. I was going to name all those same songs.
Ciara "1, 2 Step"
Destiny's Child "Lose My Breath"
etc



But those cuts are all hip hop in flava. We need some uptempo R&B
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Reply #36 posted 05/27/05 11:52am

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Xavier23 said:

vainandy said:



I haven't forgot about "Throb". That should have been the first single instead of that hip hop sounding "That's The Way Love Goes" which fit in with what was just starting to take over the radio.

I like that song shrug


YEah, you can't argue with TTWLG. That's a classic Janet cut right there.
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Reply #37 posted 05/27/05 12:24pm

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intha916 said:

CinisterCee said:



EXCELLENT POST. I was going to name all those same songs.
Ciara "1, 2 Step"
Destiny's Child "Lose My Breath"
etc



But those cuts are all hip hop in flava. We need some uptempo R&B


Hell, we need some uptempo funk. That's what's missing.
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Reply #38 posted 05/27/05 12:54pm

JANFAN4L

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Hell, we need some uptempo funk. That's what's missing.


I don't think people understand what funk IS anymore, let alone perform it.
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Reply #39 posted 05/27/05 1:35pm

Hotlegs

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vainandy said:



Hell, we need some uptempo funk. That's what's missing.


I don't think people understand what funk IS anymore, let alone perform it.

whofarted There are people who understand the Funk. The problem is that some of the youth out there don't know how to repect it by oversampling it.
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Reply #40 posted 05/27/05 2:45pm

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vainandy said:



Milli Vanilli: For lip syncing and getting caught. This made all the artists want to prove that they could sing and play instruments by doing "unplugged this" and "unplugged that" accoustical shit. I got so bored I wanted to sing "Michael rode the boat ashore, hallelujah".


I never thought of that. Well said (as it all was). But yeah the scandal musta made all uptempo pop laughable and totally unprofitable now.
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Reply #41 posted 05/27/05 2:52pm

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paisleypark4 said:

DavidEye said:

I totally agree.I am so sick of midtempo R&B songs.Where are the hard,fast dance beats that we used to hear?? There was a time when we had fast uptempo jams like "Super Freak","Alligator Woman","Erotic City" and "You Dropped A Bomb On Me"....songs that actually sounded good in the clubs.


Hmm recently uuuhhhh.....

Lose My Breath - Destiny's Child (perfect example of a uptempo song that RADIO NEEDS MORE OF!!!
Get Right - J.Lo
Caught Up - Usher (doesnt really make me hit the floor though)
R&B Junkie / All Nite - Janet
Lose Control - Missy feat. Ciara
1 Thing - Amerie

Oh...just about all Missy's trax make me wanna hit the flo'. We need more of that though in R&B because there's definitley a void of uptempo dance coreography in videos today...OTHER than shakin sum ass in front of the camera and pausing for a few sec.s in slow motion.



But they sound 5 years old now. They got the analogue type feel to it. its hard to describe as I don't know the terminology.

its funny as shit like say calloway's superb "sir lancelot" has only dated because digital sounds went out to be replaced by analogue. Thus neo soul was born and newjack, the last "new" sound, was over. Neo soul was nothing new. At the time it seemed great, but mad


if anyone starts using digital synclaviers etc again, then maybe true uptempo will come back.

All those modern uptempo's paisley listed have a huge base but 0 treble!. Where is the drum snare thats use to be so loud ur ears would burst? Sure that sound had to go for a while, but at least one producer could of risked using that sound again?
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Reply #42 posted 05/27/05 2:58pm

Hotlegs

Hotlegs said:

JANFAN4L said:



I don't think people understand what funk IS anymore, let alone perform it.

whofarted There are people who understand the Funk. The problem is that some of the youth out there don't know how to repect it by oversampling it.
[Edited 5/27/05 14:57pm]
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Reply #43 posted 05/27/05 3:17pm

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Hotlegs said:

Hotlegs said:


whofarted There are people who understand the Funk. The problem is that some of the youth out there don't know how to repect it by oversampling it.
[Edited 5/27/05 14:57pm]


I know u and vain dont want the huge drum snares of newjack to come back. Thats the funk I want.
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Reply #44 posted 05/27/05 3:25pm

Hotlegs

thesexofit said:

Hotlegs said:



I know u and vain dont want the huge drum snares of newjack to come back. Thats the funk I want.


Basically, I want the Funk, the whole Funk and nuthin but the Funk.
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Reply #45 posted 05/27/05 3:37pm

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Hotlegs said:

thesexofit said:



I know u and vain dont want the huge drum snares of newjack to come back. Thats the funk I want.


Basically, I want the Funk, the whole Funk and nuthin but the Funk.


Not gerado's "we want the funk"?
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Reply #46 posted 05/27/05 3:47pm

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vainandy said:

VoicesCarry said:

I've had this speech memorized for a while now. It plays in my head every night before as I attempt to fall asleep.


lol I'm going to record it to an uptempo beat and make music funky again.



Look at this thread.

http://www.prince.org/msg...&q=2659177


Only true uptempo pop song since 1992/3. I know the funk ain't with it. But its very upbeat.
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Reply #47 posted 05/27/05 3:55pm

Hotlegs

thesexofit said:

Hotlegs said:



Basically, I want the Funk, the whole Funk and nuthin but the Funk.


Not gerado's "we want the funk"?
whofarted
hmph! Parliament's We Want The Funk is my style Sexofit.
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Reply #48 posted 05/27/05 3:57pm

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Hotlegs said:

thesexofit said:



Not gerado's "we want the funk"?
whofarted
hmph! Parliament's We Want The Funk is my style Sexofit.



U seen gerardo's video for "we want the funk"? George puts in a appearance at the club gerardo is dacning in. Great dancing it is too. Thanx to tony basil.

I guess george liked it?
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Reply #49 posted 05/27/05 3:58pm

Hotlegs

thesexofit said:

Hotlegs said:

whofarted
hmph! Parliament's We Want The Funk is my style Sexofit.



U seen gerardo's video for "we want the funk"? George puts in a appearance at the club gerardo is dacning in. Great dancing it is too. Thanx to tony basil.

I guess george liked it?

Yeah but. It ain't nothing like the real thing. You feel me.
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Reply #50 posted 05/27/05 4:02pm

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thesexofit said:

Hotlegs said:



I know u and vain dont want the huge drum snares of newjack to come back. Thats the funk I want.


No the were used a little TOOOOO much after 1991 and it made the rest sound dated, and still does today..exception for the 1988-1990 era.


The FUNKY snares still lie in the 80's though with the Linn Drums..those had the loudest snares didnt they? i.e. DMSR wink
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Reply #51 posted 05/27/05 4:03pm

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Hotlegs said:

thesexofit said:




U seen gerardo's video for "we want the funk"? George puts in a appearance at the club gerardo is dacning in. Great dancing it is too. Thanx to tony basil.

I guess george liked it?

Yeah but. It ain't nothing like the real thing. You feel me.



Yeah I do. Infact, I dont even like that gerardo song much. Too much macho chanting on the chorus. All the rage back then.
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Reply #52 posted 05/27/05 9:08pm

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I remember wondering a while back what was wrong with radio and thanks to vainandy, I found out that it was the lack of uptempo songs on the radio. It really sucks not to have a REAL dance song on the radio now but what can you do? I wish someone would come out and shock us with a pure dance song, new or old.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #53 posted 05/27/05 9:11pm

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vainandy said:



Hell, we need some uptempo funk. That's what's missing.

Amen! Thank you vainandy for speaking the truth on this.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #54 posted 05/27/05 11:41pm

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vainandy said:

Ladies and gentlemen.....I have arrived! I had typed my reply for a while (9 or 10 paragraphs) then when I hit "post response", I was signed out and all my shit was wiped out. lol

Thesexofit, you must be trying to get my blood pressure up with this thread. lol

Anyway, I guess you'll have to settle for an edited version:

Whitney Houston: For being SO damn successful doing weak ballads and a few watered down "cheerleaderey" uptempo songs recorded with the intent of going after the pop audience. Yes, there were those before her, but she was SO successful that she influenced tons of up and coming artists to do the same thing. All this watered down pop shit and ballads were far outselling the funk groups and they started becoming scarcer and scarcer. This left a big void where uptempo funk used to be and uptempo rap started filling that void. Rap, during that time was just as uptempo and funky as funk. Some of it was even more funky.

Dr. Dre: For being SO damn successful with tired ass midtempo gangsta rap which influenced tons of other up and coming rappers to do the same thing. Then, these midtempo ass rappers (out of jealousy because their dead asses probably can't rap faster than midtempo) had to go and talk about Hammer and make uptempo rap uncool.

Janet Jackson: For having the perfect opportunity and timing to speed things back up at a time when midtempo was first starting to take over. Her last album "Rhythm Nation" was hardcore funk and was a major success. Her new album was around the corner everyone was anxiously awaiting it. Instead, she doesn't try to beat the dead asses, she joins them with a lame ass midtempo song with a hip hop vibe called "That's The Way Love Goes".

Milli Vanilli: For lip syncing and getting caught. This made all the artists want to prove that they could sing and play instruments by doing "unplugged this" and "unplugged that" accoustical shit. I got so bored I wanted to sing "Michael rode the boat ashore, hallelujah".

Well damn, I typed a lot this time too. lol


CORRECTION (concerning Janet):

If was release as the second single from the janet album. THAT song was a faster tempo dance track. And psychosexy too.
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Reply #55 posted 05/27/05 11:51pm

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VoicesCarry said:

vainandy said:



I haven't forgot about "Throb". That should have been the first single instead of that hip hop sounding "That's The Way Love Goes" which fit in with what was just starting to take over the radio.


So why do you think it was the first single? Did she want Erotica, Pt. 2? I think not.


My 2 cents:

That's The Way Love Goes was a good choice of a first single from janet because of the timing of the release....THE Summer Season of 1993. THAT song was smooth & relaxing like a glass of sweet ice tea! cool

And just when we all thought that Janet & Virgin Records were playing it too safe, The second single If became THE much bigger hit on the dancefloor. And all of those remixes on THAT CD single were very good too!
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Reply #56 posted 05/28/05 1:20am

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Reply #57 posted 05/28/05 5:21pm

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TonyVanDam said:

VoicesCarry said:



So why do you think it was the first single? Did she want Erotica, Pt. 2? I think not.


My 2 cents:

That's The Way Love Goes was a good choice of a first single from janet because of the timing of the release....THE Summer Season of 1993. THAT song was smooth & relaxing like a glass of sweet ice tea! cool

And just when we all thought that Janet & Virgin Records were playing it too safe, The second single If became THE much bigger hit on the dancefloor. And all of those remixes on THAT CD single were very good too!



It was a brave choice. Vainandy is right though, when janet went midtempo, other rnb acts caught on too. I remember (and have mentioned this before) that bobby brown was still peddling his teddy riley newjack with "thats the way love is" single and video 'round the same time as janets "thats the way.....". Bobby's video looked cheap and sounded dated next to hers. That was the beginning of a quick end.
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Reply #58 posted 05/29/05 9:25am

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It seems that today's artists' answer to making music for the dance floor is releasing a maxi-single with five or six remixes. They will house the song up so much that, except for the lyrics, it doesn't even sound like the original. It's not even good house music either. It's like they just threw something together real quick.

They will even make a house remix of a slow song, which I think is totally rediculous. I can just see someone, ten years from now, calling up and requesting a particular slow song. The DJ would have to ask them if they want the original slow version or the speeded up house version. Can you imagine trying to remember a classic slow jam like Minnie Ripperton's "Loving You" in any other way than just a great slow jam?

I've always preferred the way they used to do 12 Inches back in the 1970s and 1980s. There was one remix and it was made more funky than the original. However, it didn't stray too far from the original and was easily recognizable.

People jump on too many bandwagons these days and absolutely wear an idea out.
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Reply #59 posted 05/29/05 1:07pm

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vainandy said:

It seems that today's artists' answer to making music for the dance floor is releasing a maxi-single with five or six remixes. They will house the song up so much that, except for the lyrics, it doesn't even sound like the original. It's not even good house music either. It's like they just threw something together real quick.

They will even make a house remix of a slow song, which I think is totally rediculous. I can just see someone, ten years from now, calling up and requesting a particular slow song. The DJ would have to ask them if they want the original slow version or the speeded up house version. Can you imagine trying to remember a classic slow jam like Minnie Ripperton's "Loving You" in any other way than just a great slow jam?

I've always preferred the way they used to do 12 Inches back in the 1970s and 1980s. There was one remix and it was made more funky than the original. However, it didn't stray too far from the original and was easily recognizable.

People jump on too many bandwagons these days and absolutely wear an idea out.
[Edited 5/29/05 9:27am]

nod I noticed this this also. What's up with this trend? The mainstream always finds a way to fuck up good music. Now good house or slow jams aren't even sacred anymore.
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