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"I Want You Back (Z-Trip Remix)" on Motown Remixed

Has anyone else downloaded this song off iTunes??

IT'S FANTASTIC!! I swear there are some new vocals added on this track.

Take from Motown Remixed (a surprisingly strong remix album that was released a few weeks ago.)

Various Artists: Motown Remixed



Guide Rating - 4 stars

The Bottom Line

You don't have to like hip-hop, dance, or chill music -- or even know what those things are -- to enjoy this project, since it reassembles the basic elements of Motown's classic hits in a way that leaves them intact yet makes them sound fresh all over again.

"Hear it again for the first time." So goes the tagline for this latest Motown project, the newest attempt by the label to take their classic recordings and repackage them for a new generation. Except that this time they're right -- the Sound of Young America was remarkably complex and layered, and listening to the individual elements of these familiar songs makes them seem even more impressive somehow, as if you were in on the creation.

Make no mistake: although the original masters here are being remixed by the most respected names in the modern pop world, these are NOT attempts to graft the Motown sound to new recordings... they're simply the originals reassembled in a different way, sweetened ever so slightly with modern beats and topped off with the kind of studio chatter and musical effluvia that never made it from the studio session to the original 45. The Motown vaults were opened to these studio wizards, and the results are revelatory. So if you love and appreciate cuts like the Jackson 5's "I Want You Back," The Temptations' "Just My Imagination," Smokey and the Miracles' "Tears Of A Clown," or even Rare Earth's "I Just Want To Celebrate," you'll get to discover them all over again. The Funk Brothers would be proud. (There's also a companion CD called "Motown Unmixed," featuring the original 14 cuts before these producers and DJs got to them, so that you can compare and contrast. DJs, take note: there are also extended vinyl versions of these remixes out there.)

http://oldies.about.com/o...emixed.htm
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Reply #1 posted 05/25/05 11:42pm

smokeverbs

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I have that on order. Z-Trip is outta sight, have you heard "Motown Breakdown Part 1?"
Keep your headphones on.
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Reply #2 posted 05/26/05 12:28am

CinisterCee

smokeverbs said:

I have that on order. Z-Trip is outta sight, have you heard "Motown Breakdown Part 1?"


no.. but eye would like 2. batting eyes
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Reply #3 posted 05/26/05 10:19am

VoicesCarry

These are mostly downtempo lounge-style mixes. Sort of as if they were remodelling the hits in the vein of Morcheeba or The Roots. I wish there were some uptempo mixes, they could be interesting.
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Reply #4 posted 05/26/05 10:22am

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Don't u really hate motown for fucking up their remasters? Every cd I have or my family have are of shitty quality sound wise. Like the four tops one. The vocals sound shit. Why did motown alter them for?

Luckily I know a vinyl shop that does the originals. Like a greatest hits from the 60's before motown changed shit. I hate motown for this.

j5 get away wth it better then others. Maybe they have corrected this now, but some of their cd catalogue stuff sounds flat and awful.
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Reply #5 posted 05/26/05 10:24am

VoicesCarry

thesexofit said:

Don't u really hate motown for fucking up their remasters? Every cd I have or my family have are of shitty quality sound wise. Like the four tops one. The vocals sound shit. Why did motown alter them for?

Luckily I know a vinyl shop that does the originals. Like a greatest hits from the 60's before motown changed shit. I hate motown for this.

j5 get away wth it better then others. Maybe they have corrected this now, but some of their cd catalogue stuff sounds flat and awful.


There are lot of great Motown remasters. Do you have the Four Tops two-fers? I know they did a notorious remastering job in the mid-80's on many classic albums, so maybe you were unfortunate enough to purchase those instead of the current remasters.
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Reply #6 posted 05/26/05 10:26am

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VoicesCarry said:

thesexofit said:

Don't u really hate motown for fucking up their remasters? Every cd I have or my family have are of shitty quality sound wise. Like the four tops one. The vocals sound shit. Why did motown alter them for?

Luckily I know a vinyl shop that does the originals. Like a greatest hits from the 60's before motown changed shit. I hate motown for this.

j5 get away wth it better then others. Maybe they have corrected this now, but some of their cd catalogue stuff sounds flat and awful.


There are lot of great Motown remasters. Do you have the Four Tops two-fers? I know they did a notorious remastering job in the mid-80's on many classic albums, so maybe you were unfortunate enough to purchase those instead of the current remasters.
[Edited 5/26/05 10:24am]


Yeah thats proberly it. I got a MJ solo one recently. It was a universal masters though, the sound quality was better. But u still wonder why would motown make trouble for themselves by altering them in the first place?
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Reply #7 posted 05/26/05 10:32am

VoicesCarry

thesexofit said:

VoicesCarry said:



There are lot of great Motown remasters. Do you have the Four Tops two-fers? I know they did a notorious remastering job in the mid-80's on many classic albums, so maybe you were unfortunate enough to purchase those instead of the current remasters.
[Edited 5/26/05 10:24am]


Yeah thats proberly it. I got a MJ solo one recently. It was a universal masters though, the sound quality was better. But u still wonder why would motown make trouble for themselves by altering them in the first place?


If you want good Motown remasters in the UK, you have to start looking for covers like this:

http://www.amazon.com/exe...ce&s=music

Motown started doing these stereo remasters in 2000, and their quality has been improving even since. It's a two-fer series with many artists, not just the Four Tops. These are in fact newly-remastered reissues of all the 80's two-fers. All of the projects were personally supervised by Harry Weinger. Sound quality is incredible - in the Martha & The Vandellas ones, it sounds like you're in the damn studio with them while they sing "Quicksand". Amazing stuff.
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Reply #8 posted 05/26/05 10:51am

CinisterCee

I didn't know those two-fers were any better quality, VC.

I always see those two-fers of the Temptations, and J5.
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Reply #9 posted 05/26/05 10:53am

VoicesCarry

CinisterCee said:

I didn't know those two-fers were any better quality, VC.

I always see those two-fers of the Temptations, and J5.


The 2000-2001 ones are excellent, the 2002- ones are superb.
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Reply #10 posted 05/26/05 10:54am

VoicesCarry

BTW, you guys can listen to clips on this site (scroll to bottom of page):

http://www.sixtiesmotown....eview.html
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Reply #11 posted 05/26/05 11:09am

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From the jump i'll say that I don't understand the whole "REMIX" deal in general.
Unless a technical problem is being corrected, what's the point?

Just listening to the I Want You Back remix, the whole impact of the intro from the original mix has been destroyed. It's interesting, as a musician, to hear David T. Walker's (i'm pretty sure that's who that is) rhythm guitar track "out in the open" like that (along with other tracks), but purely from an analytical standpoint.

This brings up another question in my mind about remixes.
Does the supposed need for a remix indicate that the original mix was done incorrectly?
I've heard it said that, "it's done to extend the performance for the clubs". I don't buy that because i've heard DJs do mixes using multiple versions of the original records that were very creative, extended the performance, but did not upset the vibe of the original tune.

Back in the glory days of Motown, there was an art to creating perfect 3-minute pop songs.
You only had so much time to make the magic happen. The remixes that I listened to on the MOTOWN remixed site diluted all the compacted fire and energy contained in those songs.


Just the way I hear it.


tA


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Reply #12 posted 05/26/05 11:33am

VoicesCarry

theAudience said:

From the jump i'll say that I don't understand the whole "REMIX" deal in general.
Unless a technical problem is being corrected, what's the point?


To create different impressions of the song. If you don't like dance, you probably don't like remixes, since that's the purpose of many of them - turn the song out for the clubs. But there are also mixes that completely redefine the song otherwise, and make it better than it already was. Think of how many 7'' mixes are the DEFINITIVE versions (especially of Motown hits) you've loved for so long, and you have your answer as to why the remix exists. biggrin

Mixes like these don't seem worthwhile to me, however.
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Reply #13 posted 05/26/05 11:51am

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VoicesCarry said:

To create different impressions of the song. If you don't like dance, you probably don't like remixes, since that's the purpose of many of them - turn the song out for the clubs. But there are also mixes that completely redefine the song otherwise, and make it better than it already was. Think of how many 7'' mixes are the DEFINITIVE versions (especially of Motown hits) you've loved for so long, and you have your answer as to why the remix exists. biggrin

Mixes like these don't seem worthwhile to me, however.


I guess i've always preferred the original impression, the thing that made me love the tune in the first place. shrug

The 7" mixes that i've heard have always maintained that "original vibe". But I understand your point.

I'm with you 100% on the MOTOWN remixed versions.
They just don't do it for me.

Thanks for the take. wink

tA

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Reply #14 posted 05/26/05 11:54am

CinisterCee

I heard Motown Unmixed, the companion disc to this set containing the original songs. Listening to them back to back, it probably proves tA right.
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Reply #15 posted 05/26/05 12:05pm

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CinisterCee said:

I heard Motown Unmixed, the companion disc to this set containing the original songs. Listening to them back to back, it probably proves tA right.

Thanks Cee. wink

I know something's wrong if you don't dig it.

tA

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Reply #16 posted 05/26/05 12:53pm

CinisterCee

theAudience said:

CinisterCee said:

I heard Motown Unmixed, the companion disc to this set containing the original songs. Listening to them back to back, it probably proves tA right.

Thanks Cee. wink

I know something's wrong if you don't dig it.


confuse tA that sounded like a backhanded compliment lol
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Reply #17 posted 05/26/05 12:59pm

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CinisterCee said:

theAudience said:


Thanks Cee. wink

I know something's wrong if you don't dig it.


confuse tA that sounded like a backhanded compliment lol

Naw man. smile

What I meant was that you're more familiar with remixes than I am.
I was banking on your expertise my friend.

Better?


tA

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Reply #18 posted 05/26/05 1:15pm

psykosoul

theAudience said:

From the jump i'll say that I don't understand the whole "REMIX" deal in general.
Unless a technical problem is being corrected, what's the point?

Just listening to the I Want You Back remix, the whole impact of the intro from the original mix has been destroyed. It's interesting, as a musician, to hear David T. Walker's (i'm pretty sure that's who that is) rhythm guitar track "out in the open" like that (along with other tracks), but purely from an analytical standpoint.

This brings up another question in my mind about remixes.
Does the supposed need for a remix indicate that the original mix was done incorrectly?
I've heard it said that, "it's done to extend the performance for the clubs". I don't buy that because i've heard DJs do mixes using multiple versions of the original records that were very creative, extended the performance, but did not upset the vibe of the original tune.

Back in the glory days of Motown, there was an art to creating perfect 3-minute pop songs.
You only had so much time to make the magic happen. The remixes that I listened to on the MOTOWN remixed site diluted all the compacted fire and energy contained in those songs.


Just the way I hear it.


tA


peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


I agree with you but...

I love the Randy Watson Experience woot!
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Reply #19 posted 05/26/05 2:12pm

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psykosoul said:


I agree with you but...

I love the Randy Watson Experience woot!

hmmm I wonder if this...



...had anything to do with your decision?
Maybe that's why the drums are so damn loud with cymbals crashing all over the place. lol


That's the best one of the bunch. He should've went on...



...and dropped the logo on it.


tA

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Reply #20 posted 05/26/05 3:40pm

TheRealFiness

theAudience said:

From the jump i'll say that I don't understand the whole "REMIX" deal in general.
Unless a technical problem is being corrected, what's the point?

Just listening to the I Want You Back remix, the whole impact of the intro from the original mix has been destroyed. It's interesting, as a musician, to hear David T. Walker's (i'm pretty sure that's who that is) rhythm guitar track "out in the open" like that (along with other tracks), but purely from an analytical standpoint.

This brings up another question in my mind about remixes.
Does the supposed need for a remix indicate that the original mix was done incorrectly?
I've heard it said that, "it's done to extend the performance for the clubs". I don't buy that because i've heard DJs do mixes using multiple versions of the original records that were very creative, extended the performance, but did not upset the vibe of the original tune.

Back in the glory days of Motown, there was an art to creating perfect 3-minute pop songs.
You only had so much time to make the magic happen. The remixes that I listened to on the MOTOWN remixed site diluted all the compacted fire and energy contained in those songs.


Just the way I hear it.


tA


peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm



I gotta agree with TA on this one.. ive been a dj for almost 30 years, and sure ive done my share of remixes, but never ever have i destroyed or changed the original vibe to the cut at hand.
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Reply #21 posted 05/26/05 4:50pm

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TheRealFiness said:

.. ive been a dj for almost 30 years, and sure ive done my share of remixes, but never ever have i destroyed or changed the original vibe to the cut at hand.


See, you dig it man,...



...just like I knew that you could.


cool



tA

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Reply #22 posted 05/27/05 7:44am

CinisterCee

theAudience said:

CinisterCee said:



confuse tA that sounded like a backhanded compliment lol

Naw man. smile

What I meant was that you're more familiar with remixes than I am.
I was banking on your expertise my friend.

Better?


ahh... keep it coming. biggrin *ego bloating*
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Reply #23 posted 05/27/05 8:16am

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CinisterCee said:

theAudience said:


Naw man. smile

What I meant was that you're more familiar with remixes than I am.
I was banking on your expertise my friend.

Better?


ahh... keep it coming. biggrin *ego bloating*

hmmm You're pushin' it pal

wink

tA

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