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The radio stations that play anything

CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- The posters hanging in Nine FM's broadcasting booth are as eclectic as the music the radio station plays -- Pink Floyd and Aerosmith share space with the Marx Brothers, the Rat Pack and the Beatles.

"We play anything" is the station's mantra, and to prove it, program director and afternoon personality Matt DuBiel's afternoon mix moves from Boz Scaggs to Prince to Cheap Trick.

With names like Jack and Bob (or Fickle and Nine), radio stations promising an anything-goes mix of pop and rock hits are springing up across the country. The variety format is seen as a way to appeal to listeners used to loading their own iPods with music from different genres -- or to retain those thinking about switching to satellite radio.

But more than that, it's a mea culpa to music lovers who started tuning out as radio stations shrunk playlists in the 1990s, leaving the same old songs to play hour after hour.

The stations tell listeners "we play what we want" or "we play anything." But they're really carefully crafted to keep advertisers happy, observers say. Song choices target a lucrative but musically hard-to-define demographic, 25- to 54-year-olds, who want to hear new music (but not rap and bubblegum pop) and who declare themselves too young to listen to the oldies.

"This is oldies wrapped up in new wrapping paper and a new bow," said Tom Taylor, editor of Inside Radio, a trade publication owned by Clear Channel Communications Inc.

The variety format began in Canada three years ago and migrated into U.S. markets a little over a year ago. While the original Canadian formats, called Jack and Bob, differ somewhat -- Bob introduces more new music and Jack sticks to older hits -- they and other U.S. variety stations share basic themes.

They're heavy on the '80s and '90s. They play mainly hits, but hits that haven't been heard on the radio for a while. They aren't afraid of "train wreck" segues, running, for example, a classic rock hit into an '80s pop confection.

For Harvey Wells, vice president and group station manager for Newsweb Radio Group, Nine FM's owner, inspiration struck sitting at a college bar with his 21-year-old daughter. After hearing hard-rock AC/DC followed by pop from Huey Lewis and the News, then followed by country singer Kenny Chesney, he asked her if she thought the mix was strange.

"And she said, 'Why strange?' " Wells said. " 'It's just good music.' "

People always liked a variety of music, but as radio stations consolidated under corporate owners, playlists got shorter, said Bob Sinclair, president of Sinclair Communications, which launched the first U.S. Bob station in Norfolk, Virginia, 14 months ago.

"The big suits worried about their Wall Street stock price ... and there were these so-called experts telling station owners [that] to be successful you have to narrow your focus to a particular segment of music," he said.

Listeners tuned out. Americans 12 and older now spend about 19.5 hours a week listening to the radio, down from 21.5 hours a week in 1998, according to Arbitron's annual American Radio Listening Trends report. Radio advertising, which boomed in the 1990s, grew only 2 percent last year, according to the Radio Advertising Bureau.

Bob Perry, a veteran radio programmer, started the variety format on the Internet radio station JACK.FM in 2000 and later licensed the name for terrestrial stations in Canada and the U.S.

One of the converted is 32-year-old Stacy Jill Jacobs, who recently started listening to Jack FM in Los Angeles. Jacobs has an iPod loaded with her favorites, but likes the station's eclectic nature and element of surprise.

"It's completely random, and the choices that they make are hilarious," Jacobs said.

Not everyone is a believer, though. Michael Saffran, who worked for years as a DJ, has listened to Fickle in Rochester, New York, and doesn't expect it to stick around for long. The scan button on his radio dial does the same job, he said.

"If you're going to listen to some wide range of music, it might as well be the stuff you pick yourself," Saffran said.

The Canadian Bobs and Jacks have had staying power, giving variety radio backers a weapon against naysayers who call the format another fad akin to all-'80s or jammin' oldies, both of which came and went quickly.

Sinclair's variety stations have done well in the Arbitron ratings, and only one -- in Honolulu -- has fizzled. Bob Sinclair notes Bob FM in Austin, Texas, has rated No. 1 in its market's 25-54 demographic.

Variety stations are rarely the leaders in any particular market, but they have proven a reliable way for station owners to boost their market shares, said Sean Ross, vice president of music and programming at Edison Media Research, a consulting firm.

In Chicago, Nine FM, playing on three frequencies, hasn't made a dent in the ratings yet. But since its entry into the market, the city's alternative station has expanded its playlist and declared itself "on shuffle," and a hot adult contemporary station now says it plays "today's new music ... and whatever we want."

The stations will have to figure out a way to keep listeners once the novelty wears off, said Ross. That may include introducing new music into the mix or finding interesting personalities -- many now eschew DJs or give them little air time.

"The big mantra for Jack and Bob and all these formats is that they're a mile wide and an inch deep, and that will have to give eventually," Ross said. "That said, I'm not one of those people who believe this is a fad format."
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Reply #1 posted 05/25/05 7:09pm

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MAZ!!! headbang
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Reply #2 posted 05/25/05 7:26pm

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funkpill said:

MAZ!!! headbang


Funkypill!!! headbang
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Reply #3 posted 05/25/05 7:45pm

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I live in Chicago and have been listening to this station for awhile now. It's AWESOME! Just yesterday I heard Pop Life on it...I don't think I've heard that one on the radio since 1985. But then after that stroke of brilliance I heard One by Metallica. headbang I am SO hoping this station catches on.
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Pagey said:

I live in Chicago and have been listening to this station for awhile now. It's AWESOME! Just yesterday I heard Pop Life on it...I don't think I've heard that one on the radio since 1985. But then after that stroke of brilliance I heard One by Metallica. headbang I am SO hoping this station catches on.


hmm im in Chicago and i cant get it clear pout
Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3
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Reply #5 posted 05/26/05 4:28am

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Mazerati said:

Pagey said:

I live in Chicago and have been listening to this station for awhile now. It's AWESOME! Just yesterday I heard Pop Life on it...I don't think I've heard that one on the radio since 1985. But then after that stroke of brilliance I heard One by Metallica. headbang I am SO hoping this station catches on.


hmm im in Chicago and i cant get it clear pout


It's on two frequencies...99.9 for the southside/burbs and 92.7 for the northside/burbs. I live in Ravenswood and get 92.7 in clear as can be. There's another frequnecy for far west burbs too (or so I am told by a friend who lives in DeKalb.
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We have a station like that here. They play a lot of good stuff from time to time but I always ended up changing the station and coming back because they will slip a 1990s or present song in there, which spoils the whole mood.
[Edited 5/26/05 6:20am]
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #7 posted 05/26/05 6:46am

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We now have "Jack FM" in MPLS. It replaced our 80s station. Initally I was excited as I'd tired of the all 80s format. But, I now find myself only listening when they play 80s stuff. At least it's DIFFERENT 80s material...
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Reply #9 posted 05/26/05 7:39am

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endorphin74 said:

We now have "Jack FM" in MPLS. It replaced our 80s station. Initally I was excited as I'd tired of the all 80s format. But, I now find myself only listening when they play 80s stuff. At least it's DIFFERENT 80s material...


We had an all 1980s format station here that lasted exactly one year. It did very well in the beginning, but just like in your area, people soon became tired of it because they played only a few songs over and over.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Pagey said:

Mazerati said:



hmm im in Chicago and i cant get it clear pout


It's on two frequencies...99.9 for the southside/burbs and 92.7 for the northside/burbs. I live in Ravenswood and get 92.7 in clear as can be. There's another frequnecy for far west burbs too (or so I am told by a friend who lives in DeKalb.


heh 92.7? remember when the station first started? it was known as WSEX and it played only songs that hit the top 10 ...if a song hit #11 in billboard they couldnt play it smile they played a lot of Prince at the time but with being limited to only top 10 songs the format didnt make
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Reply #11 posted 05/26/05 4:01pm

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Have you guys heard of JACK-FM out of Los Angeles. NICE radio station. They literally play whatever they want.
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Reply #12 posted 05/26/05 4:03pm

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Oh, forgot to scroll down. Yeah, that's a good station right there.

L.A. has some really good stations K-JAZZ, JACK-FM, KCRW, KDAY, etc.
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Reply #13 posted 05/26/05 4:09pm

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theAudience said:




Oh, forgot to scroll down. Yeah, that's a good station right there.

L.A. has some really good stations K-JAZZ, JACK-FM, KCRW, KDAY, etc.



mad Damn, I wish that I had a station like that where I live.
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JANFAN4L said:



L.A. has some really good stations K-JAZZ, JACK-FM, KCRW, KDAY, etc.

This is true. Almost any genre you want can be found here:
90.7 - KPFK (Pacifica Radio) - still has a few eclectic music shows
91.5 - KUSC - Classical
92.3 - KHHT ("Mega Old School and Today's R&B") had "Uncle" Charlie Wilson on this morning.
95.5 - KLOS - The Hard Rock station
101.1 - KRTH - R&R/R&B Hits from the 60s
106.7 - KROQ - Modern Rock(?)


tA

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Reply #15 posted 05/26/05 4:56pm

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theAudience said:

JANFAN4L said:



L.A. has some really good stations K-JAZZ, JACK-FM, KCRW, KDAY, etc.

This is true. Almost any genre you want can be found here:
90.7 - KPFK (Pacifica Radio) - still has a few eclectic music shows
91.5 - KUSC - Classical
92.3 - KHHT ("Mega Old School and Today's R&B") had "Uncle" Charlie Wilson on this morning.
95.5 - KLOS - The Hard Rock station
101.1 - KRTH - R&R/R&B Hits from the 60s
106.7 - KROQ - Modern Rock(?)


tA

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All L.A. needs is a decent dance station and they'll be set.

103.1 has had sooo many lives in the past 8 years.

I (and so many other Angelenos in the dance community) STILL MISS GROOVE RADIO 103.1 (R.I.P. 1996-1998) cry
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JANFAN4L said:


All L.A. needs is a decent dance station and they'll be set.

103.1 has had sooo many lives in the past 8 years.

I (and so many other Angelenos in the dance community) STILL MISS GROOVE RADIO 103.1 (R.I.P. 1996-1998) cry

What is KPWR - 105.9 (Power 106) considered?

Btw, did you hear Steve Harvey's exit speech the other day?
I didn't, but supposedly it was very touching.

tA

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Reply #17 posted 05/26/05 5:46pm

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theAudience said:

JANFAN4L said:


All L.A. needs is a decent dance station and they'll be set.

103.1 has had sooo many lives in the past 8 years.

I (and so many other Angelenos in the dance community) STILL MISS GROOVE RADIO 103.1 (R.I.P. 1996-1998) cry

What is KPWR - 105.9 (Power 106) considered?

Btw, did you hear Steve Harvey's exit speech the other day?
I didn't, but supposedly it was very touching.

tA

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http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm


Power 106 nowadays is considered an urban hip hop and R&B station (pretty much like 100.3 The Beat). Their primary demographic is latinos, so they tend to have dance music shows late at night on the weekend. "Power Tools" with Richard "Humpty" Vission is a long-running dance music show on KPWR. Back in the '80s the station was more freestyle and latin hip hop based. In the mid '90s, when latino kids were all about "deep house" music, the station followed suit and put that in the format. But now it's a clone of its sister station Hot 97 in NYC -- all hip hop and R&B all the time (it's been like that since '93).

I'm currently living out in NYC, so I didn't hear Harvey's exit. Another radio jock bites the dust. At least we still have Big Boy mornings on KPWR.
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JANFAN4L said:

I'm currently living out in NYC,...

My hometown. thumbs up!

I seen all the movie stars in their fancy cars and their limousines,
Been high in the Rockies under the evergreens,
But I know what I'M needing and I don't want to waste more time-
I'm in a New York state of mind.


Now i'm homesick. confused
I'll have to get my fix in October.


Btw, since he's lost some weight, will he have to change his name to...Medium Boy?

tA

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Reply #19 posted 05/26/05 6:18pm

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JANFAN4L said:

I'm currently living out in NYC,...

My hometown. thumbs up!

I seen all the movie stars in their fancy cars and their limousines,
Been high in the Rockies under the evergreens,
But I know what I'M needing and I don't want to waste more time-
I'm in a New York state of mind.


Now i'm homesick. confused
I'll have to get my fix in October.


Btw, since he's lost some weight, will he have to change his name to...Medium Boy?

tA

peace Tribal Disorder

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Yeah, Yeah. NYC, baby.

LOL @ "medium boy." I did see those billboards when I was back home for a second. He was looking mighty different. Lipo'd it ALL out. Guess it's good for his health, so it's good enough for me. smile
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