This just goes to show you that Bono is a populist fool. | |
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I just saw U2 sunday nite in Phila.
& now that you bring Pop up I realize they didn't do any songs from that cd. Now I feel bummed. | |
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They've been saying this for a while now, but I don't think it'll ever happen. Remember that Bono is the king of hyperbole.
Anyway, I don't understand the Pop haters; I think the album is every bit as good as All That You Can't... It's not one of their masterpieces, but it's only got two stinkers (Miami, Playboy Mansion), and that's the same ratio as ATYCLB (New York, Grace). Some of my favorite U2 songs come from that era, especially Please and Do You Feel Loved. I'd be highly upset with a rerecording of the album, although I'm sure I'd buy it anyway. I'm the first mammal to wear pants. | |
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If they wanna rework a weak album, they should reconsider their most recent one. Pop was a great album, and it still is. | |
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larry mullen has been saying this for years. supposedly they booked the tour before they even finished the record and the band feels like it just wasn't finished. i have to admit i liked the new versions of "gone" and "discotheque" more than the originals but i hated the new version of "staring at the sun" and "numb"!
that three record era...achtung baby, zooropa, and pop...is still my favorite. those records could have been one large boxed set, they just go so well together! atyclb is a great record but its very "u2 by the numbers" and has very little to offer that hasn't been offered before. i'm not knocking that - there's nothing wrong with a band perfecting its sound and sticking with it. i just think that those three records were very exciting because it was a time when you didn't know what to expect. that's why i like the new record so much...it has moments that make me say, "wow! i wasn't expecting that!" | |
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Axchi696 said: They've been saying this for a while now, but I don't think it'll ever happen. Remember that Bono is the king of hyperbole.
Anyway, I don't understand the Pop haters; I think the album is every bit as good as All That You Can't... It's not one of their masterpieces, but it's only got two stinkers (Miami, Playboy Mansion), and that's the same ratio as ATYCLB (New York, Grace). Some of my favorite U2 songs come from that era, especially Please and Do You Feel Loved. I'd be highly upset with a rerecording of the album, although I'm sure I'd buy it anyway. Don't knock "Miami" (or the town, for that matter). It's a great song. Seriously. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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I don't mind the new versions on the greatest hits records (to me, they're like remixes, and its better than paying for the same versions I already have), but I definitely don't see the point of redoing the entire album. Fine for a retrospective, just don't re-do the whole thing.
If they MUST do a re-recording, it should be something that they offer on their website only. Personally, I love the Pop album. It was way ahead of its time. Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9) | |
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SassyBritches said: that three record era...achtung baby, zooropa, and pop...is still my favorite.
Mine too. | |
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GangstaFam said: Sdldawn said: I'm not a fan of U2.. but that is f*cking stupid...
Hold up. You're a big Coldplay fan, but you don't like U2? Thats right.. I dont even hear both in any relation.. only be inspiration.. U2 is a fucking joke to me. (sorry U2 fans, no disrepect to your taste.. just my view on them) | |
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Their albums Zooropa and Pop made me a fan, and I felt like they regressed after that. Maybe they want to erase all of their evolution completely.
I'm done with U2. | |
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Sdldawn said: Thats right.. I dont even hear both in any relation.. only be inspiration..
U2 is a fucking joke to me. (sorry U2 fans, no disrepect to your taste.. just my view on them) Why's that? I think it's hard to mess with them musically. Politics, ego, grandstanding, etc., sure. But I think their music is far from a joke. | |
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CinisterCee said: Their albums Zooropa and Pop made me a fan, and I felt like they regressed after that. Maybe they want to erase all of their evolution completely.
I'm done with U2. They might as well call themselves Dave Matthews. Trust me, If POP moved like 10 mil bono wouldn't touch it | |
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GangstaFam said: Sdldawn said: Thats right.. I dont even hear both in any relation.. only be inspiration..
U2 is a fucking joke to me. (sorry U2 fans, no disrepect to your taste.. just my view on them) Why's that? I think it's hard to mess with them musically. Politics, ego, grandstanding, etc., sure. But I think their music is far from a joke. Well, Thats just it. I respect their thing going on.. but it doesnt appeal to me at all.. nothign about them does. therefore, it isnt important.. but that doesnt mean I dont see someone else see'ing them important.. I can see that. | |
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didn't they already do this, basically, when they re-recorded the songs for singles, remixed them for best-of's, etc..... "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: didn't they already do this, basically, when they re-recorded the songs for singles, remixed them for best-of's, etc.....
not every song on the record was a single therefore not every song on the record was remixed. the songs that were remixed were proper remixes, not remakes. | |
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Sdldawn said: Well, Thats just it. I respect their thing going on.. but it doesnt appeal to me at all.. nothign about them does. therefore, it isnt important.. but that doesnt mean I dont see someone else see'ing them important.. I can see that.
How can you respect someone's thing but think they're a fucking joke? Oh, nevermind. | |
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GangstaFam said: Sdldawn said: Well, Thats just it. I respect their thing going on.. but it doesnt appeal to me at all.. nothign about them does. therefore, it isnt important.. but that doesnt mean I dont see someone else see'ing them important.. I can see that.
How can you respect someone's thing but think they're a fucking joke? Oh, nevermind. "Somethings you have to believe.. but others just puzzlin me..." . [Edited 5/25/05 16:56pm] | |
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GangstaFam said: My holy trinity of U2 songs is -
Eye love the 1st 2 songs but not heard the last.
1. Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses? 2. Stay (Faraway, So Close) 3. If God Will Send His Angels love P.S. Bought Boys 4 Pele recently having seen u n Isten rave about her. LOVE IT. Also, bought Vespertine having read a review by Moonie. LOVE IT 2. | |
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Anji said: Eye love the 1st 2 songs but not heard the last.
love P.S. Bought Boys 4 Pele recently having seen u n Isten rave about her. LOVE IT. Also, bought Vespertine having read a review by Moonie. LOVE IT 2. Wow. That's awesome. 2 of my top 10 albums ever! Glad you like. Care to review 'em yourself? I'd love to read. | |
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SassyBritches said: GrayKing said: didn't they already do this, basically, when they re-recorded the songs for singles, remixed them for best-of's, etc.....
not every song on the record was a single therefore not every song on the record was remixed. the songs that were remixed were proper remixes, not remakes. Please and If God Will Send His Angels were re-recorded (the former, completely, the latter substantially). If You Wear That Velvet Dress was also re-recorded by Bono (and Jules Holland?) around the time they were doing the best-of remixes. Practically every song on it has been re-shaped, post-album release, by the band. So what's the point in re-recording it? "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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GrayKing said: SassyBritches said: not every song on the record was a single therefore not every song on the record was remixed. the songs that were remixed were proper remixes, not remakes. Please and If God Will Send His Angels were re-recorded (the former, completely, the latter substantially). If You Wear That Velvet Dress was also re-recorded by Bono (and Jules Holland?) around the time they were doing the best-of remixes. Practically every song on it has been re-shaped, post-album release, by the band. So what's the point in re-recording it? perhaps there were songs that didn't make it onto the record the first time around and they'd like to re-record the record including some of these tracks and excluding some of the other tracks. perhaps the remixes they made didn't capture a cohesive spirit or sound. maybe they wanted to work with other musicians on the record and they weren't available at the time. who knows what their point is? maybe they prefer the idea of having all the "remixes" on one record rather than scattered about via various side projects and singles. your inferences are being drawn based on assumptions, though, and those assumptions are things that - unless you are friends with the band - you can't possibly know. ok. so you don't think there's a point to re-recording...that's wonderful for you. the creaters of the work, however, still feel as though they can tweak the album into something they consider finished. what's the point in questioning it. you'll either buy it or you won't buy it. no biggie. [Edited 5/25/05 17:39pm] | |
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SassyBritches said: GrayKing said: Please and If God Will Send His Angels were re-recorded (the former, completely, the latter substantially). If You Wear That Velvet Dress was also re-recorded by Bono (and Jules Holland?) around the time they were doing the best-of remixes. Practically every song on it has been re-shaped, post-album release, by the band. So what's the point in re-recording it? perhaps there were songs that didn't make it onto the record the first time around and they'd like to re-record the record including some of these tracks and excluding some of the other tracks. perhaps the remixes they made didn't capture a cohesive spirit or sound. maybe they wanted to work with other musicians on the record and they weren't available at the time. who knows what their point is? maybe they prefer the idea of having all the "remixes" on one record rather than scattered about via various side projects and singles. your inferences are being drawn based on assumptions, though, and those assumptions are things that - unless you are friends with the band - you can't possibly know. ok. so you don't think there's a point to re-recording...that's wonderful for you. the creaters of the work, however, still feel as though they can tweak the album into something they consider finished. what's the point in questioning it. you'll either buy it or you won't buy it. no biggie. [Edited 5/25/05 17:39pm] it's finished. they need to stop obssessing over this one piece of their catalog that is never going to be the perfect blockbuster that all of their other work has been. and yes, of course that's my assumption. this is the internet in 2005. we've all been doing this such a very long time. i didn't realize that we still had to label things "IMHO" and such. "Awards are like hemorrhoids. Sooner or later, every asshole gets one." | |
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Anji said: GangstaFam said: My holy trinity of U2 songs is -
Eye love the 1st 2 songs but not heard the last.
1. Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses? 2. Stay (Faraway, So Close) 3. If God Will Send His Angels love If God Will Send His Angels is from U2's POP cd. You should check it out. You might even see a thread concerning this cd if you know where to look. | |
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GangstaFam said: 2 of my top 10 albums ever!
"Boys For Pele" & "Vespertine" are always in my top ten too!!! | |
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Hey Gangsta!
Wasn't you disappointed with the 2 U2 best of compilations??? I mean....ahhhhem....I'm missing songs from both of them! These would be perfect for me: Best of 1980-1990 1. Pride (In The Name Of Love) 2. New Year's Day 3. With Or Without You 4. I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For 5. Sunday Bloody Sunday 6. Bad 7. Where The Streets Have No Name 8. I Will Follow 9. Gloria 10. Two Hearts Beat As One 11. The Unforgettable Fire 12. Sweetest Thing 13. Desire 14. When Love Comes To Town 15. Angel Of Harlem 16. All I Want Is You (no hidden track) Best Of 1990-2000 1. Even Better Than The Real Thing 2. Mysterious Ways 3. Beautiful Day 4. Electrical Storm 5. One 6. Miss Sarajevo 7. Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses 8. Stay (Far Away, So Close!) 9. Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of 10. Until The End Of The World 11. Discothéque (original) 12. The Fly 13. Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me 14. Staring At The Sun (original) 15. Numb (original) 16. Please (original) 17. The First Time What do you think??? | |
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Cheek said: What do you think???
I think you just read my mind. I was just thinking about posting my Best Of tracklistings either in this thread or a new one. | |
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GangstaFam said: Cheek said: What do you think???
I think you just read my mind. I was just thinking about posting my Best Of tracklistings either in this thread or a new one. I can't wait! Post it! | |
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