jayaredee said:

I totally agree that Madonna should do her own thing, and i think she does most of the time, however after it became clear American Life wasn't going to be a massive success, she did the GAP thing, she did the perfume advert, then the Britney song, it all felt a little bit like a sell out to me. Madonna is quite notoriously shrewd when it comes to making money out of the artistic side of her career, and i think this sometimes interferes too much.

For example I think her last two albums suffered from the lack of not writing with an established co-writer. She insulated herself with her producers, maybe for creative reasons, but id guess it was for money. Ive heard her say that she loved learning to play the guitar as before shed always relied on co-writers to help her write songs, and now she wouldnt have to give them a cut of the royalties as she could do that herself. Personally, i think drafting Pat Leonard in for a few songs would be money well spent. I loved a lot of American Life, but it contained no madonna classics, no one brings out the best in madonna more than Pat. I think had she let mirwais handle the complex production elements, and used pat for writing, AL could have been even better.

I respect madonnas right to do what she wants, but it doesnt mean im blinded by her brilliance so much that i think everything she does is faultless. I will like what i like, and stay away from what i dont ( i generally press the skip button on Die Another Day).

By the way, re: Die Another Day, I reckon it had the makings of a good song there. The strings were excellent, and I thought the lyrical element of the song was good, but it lacked any emotion. The vocoder, the stuttering beats, it just didnt flow like most madonna songs do. I try and imagine the song with more melodic emphasis and i hear a much better song in my head than was put on record.

I read she's getting sued for plagiarizing Frozen
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I liked American Life better than Ray of Light. It's all different strokes. It's not as if she never had to give Mirwais a cut of the cheque anyways... But if she wants to do more of the writing on her own, good for her. It makes her more independant, and shows she's come a long way.

LightOfArt said:

I heard that, sounds bollocks to me. Some guy saying she might have heard this song because she once met his producer.

jayaredee said:

Well considering her first album contained songs written by her on her own (although i know S Bray had something to do with them), that would indicate not very far. I'd rather she produced a song that blew my mind (and ears), than one she could say "i wrote this myself".

CrozzaUK said:

The funny thing is she's accusing Madonna only and NOT Patrick who co-wrote the song.

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Despite my cautious and skeptical attitude toward Madonna, I have to say that Reinvention show really affected me in an unexpected way. It's hard to explain, but a world seemed to open up -- the Madonna world, I guess. I may have to check out her next tour. Although, she'll still be chipping away at my resistance...and I fear being sucked into the whirlpool with a fear of no return.

All right, I admit it. I'm a Madonna fan.

i pray defying gravity is just a working title
and i'm ready for a 2006 or 2007 tour.

OMG David, that is the funniest pic i've ever seen.

jayaredee said:

Yeah,it's terrible,isn't it?

DavidEye said:

It is. I can't believe some of these fans minds.

Anyways, that article you posted is ridiculous. How is AL fileld with Anti-Republican content? I certainly didn't pick that up at all throughout the album. If it was panned for that reason, no wonder it didn't sell more. People were sadly misinformed by the media...