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Reply #90 posted 05/26/05 11:12am

Luv4oneanotha

namepeace said:

Luv4oneanotha said:

mmm lots happen...

It was a trap, but who's trap was it?
Sneddon's?
The Arvizo Family?
Bashir?

Was it Mj's foolhardy lifestyle that ignited this?
befriend so many people, and then forget about them...

Was it Sneddon's lust to hunt after Jackson?

Martin Bashir's Poor journalism?

Or just a combination of everything...

I don't know, but i seriously hope they all have learned their lesson


You addressed all of the possibilities except the saddest of them all.



Ahh yes the widow maker

Maybe he actually is guilty!

let me put it to you this way!
this trial sucked...

I can say honestly that the prosecution, have not made a case strong enough
but a case which in fact hurt themselves

The defense made their case...
which was weak, really weak!
but thats also because the judge did not allow alot of their wittnesses in...
but hey!

But i can't see where he is innocent or guilty
i have to lean towards innocent because of the downright idiocy of the prosecutions case
a case which brangforth contradiction after contradiction
extremely bad wittnesses

i always thought Jackson wasn't a pedophile
but i also thought that the prosecution would have at least a decent case!
this was horrible
the Santa Barbara Police Department is just so sloppy!

Did the prosecution prove that jackson molested the kid...
No,
did they speculate, hell yeah
Did the defense disprove the prosecutions theory...
they didn't have to !

so what lies next?
its all on the Jury!

if they are not convinced, they will aqquit the charges on the grounds of insufficient evidence

now this doesn't mean Jackson is innocent
it just means that the prosecuton was sloppy and did not have neough evidence

If they vote guilty, maybe they were satisfied with the case
but that doesn't mean Jackson is guilty either

its quite a funny sittuation

but thats the Legal system that our forefathers developed

to be quite honest we'll never know the tuth

so guilty? Innocent?

you decide
cause i don't have a clue
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Reply #91 posted 05/26/05 11:17am

namepeace

Luv4oneanotha said:


to be quite honest we'll never know the tuth

so guilty? Innocent?

you decide
cause i don't have a clue
[Edited 5/26/05 11:13am]


Whoa, there, Luv, I said, "possibility." Like you, I don't know one way or the other. I have my doubts. I agree with much if not most of what you said.
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Reply #92 posted 05/26/05 11:50am

threat

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threat said:

Fine then, 'sleeping with'. This language is avoided because it sounds directly sexual/suggestive, or can sound that way, so thats why i avoid saying it.


I don't blame you, but what you said also means what?

That MJ shouldn't have been doing it in the first damn place.

Just saying it should show people that he was inviting an indictment.

We can't run from the truth.


Aint knowbody's running from the truth, exept from those who insited dude was guilty of a crime, and still do, before anything was proven. And i dont 'Blindly' support anything in life.
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Reply #93 posted 05/26/05 12:15pm

namepeace

threat said:

namepeace said:



I don't blame you, but what you said also means what?

That MJ shouldn't have been doing it in the first damn place.

Just saying it should show people that he was inviting an indictment.

We can't run from the truth.


Aint knowbody's running from the truth, exept from those who insited dude was guilty of a crime, and still do, before anything was proven. And i dont 'Blindly' support anything in life.
[Edited 5/26/05 11:54am]


My, are we sensitive.
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Reply #94 posted 05/27/05 1:54am

dag

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I looooove this suit! biggrin
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #95 posted 05/27/05 6:27am

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That's a really nice look. Too bad Michael had to go to trial to finally start dressing fashionably. biggrin
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #96 posted 05/27/05 6:56am

MartyMcFly

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did she give Denzel a blowjob in the limo on the way over or what...? biggrin
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Reply #97 posted 05/27/05 7:11am

krayzie

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MartyMcFly said:




did she give Denzel a blowjob in the limo on the way over or what...? biggrin[/quote]
falloff falloff falloff
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Reply #98 posted 05/27/05 9:33am

laylow03

I've NEVER been a fan of Michael Jackson, but let me say this: HE IS INNOCENT AND WILL BE EXONERATED!!!!! biggrin
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Reply #99 posted 05/28/05 11:23am

dag

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[img]I've NEVER been a fan of Michael Jackson, but let me say this: HE IS INNOCENT AND WILL BE EXONERATED!!!!![/img]
biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin




Mike´s beautiful!
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #100 posted 05/28/05 5:30pm

PurpleKnight

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dag said:


Mike´s beautiful!


Did I wake up to 1984? Mike's a goblin. neutral
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #101 posted 05/28/05 5:46pm

sosgemini

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PurpleKnight said:

dag said:


Mike´s beautiful!


Did I wake up to 1984? Mike's a goblin. neutral


we've tried...trust us..we've tried...
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Reply #102 posted 05/28/05 5:59pm

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you all mj fans should be a shame...the defense rests again and not a sole posts anything on it.... confused

Jackson Defense Rests--Again
by Joal Ryan
May 27, 2005, 3:45 PM PT


Fire or ice? The Michael Jackson child-molestation trial is ending in both.

Friday in Santa Maria, California, the prosecution played a potentially incendiary videotape in which Jackson's young accuser was seen reluctantly telling police he'd been masturbated by the pop star.

Then the defense, which had the all-clear to recall the accuser and others to the stand, simply closed up shop.

No more witnesses, no more cross-examinations, no more evidence. For the second time this week, the defense rested.

The unexpected move clears the way for closing arguments to begin as early as Wednesday. From there, it'll be up to the 12-member jury to decide if the music legend is guilty of charges of molestation, conspiracy and plying a minor with alcohol.

Now in its fourth month, the trial's end appeared in sight when the defense rested for the first time on Wednesday, with actor Chris Tucker as its final witness. Then it appeared out of sight on Thursday, when Superior Court Judge Rodney S. Melville gave the prosecution permission to screen the accuser's police interview. The ruling seemed assured of adding days to the trial, because the defense, in seeking to rebut it, was expected to ask the accuser to come back to the courtroom in person. Jackson's lawyers also wanted the accuser's mother; Larry Feldman, the family's civil attorney; and Dr. Stan Katz, the psychologist to whom the boy first revealed the abuse allegations on call.

In the end, the defense just let the tape play, without additional commentary.

On the tape, the boy, then 13, is seen and heard being questioned by police investigators about his time at Neverland. Near the end of the hourlong tape, the boy broaches the subject of abuse.


Jackson, the boy said, told him he wanted to teach him how to masturbate.

"He put his hands in my pants. He started masturbating me," the boy said in the interview. "I told him I didn't want to do that, and he kept on doing it. I told him no."

The story is both consistent and not consistent with the accuser's courtroom testimony. On the stand in March, the boy, now 15, said he was molested on at least two occasions. In the videotape, recorded in July 2003, he assigns a higher number to the alleged crimes.

But if jurors follow Melville's instructions, what the boy said on the tape will not factor into their verdicts.

Meville told jurors merely to pay attention to the boy's demeanor. Prosecutor Tom Sneddon said he wanted to play the tape in order to rebut the defense contention that the teen spat out the allegations after the troika of the mother, Feldman and Katz saw dollar signs and coached the child accordingly.

A decade ago, Feldman secured a reported $23 million settlement from Jackson for the family of the boy at the center of the 1993-94 child-abuse investigation.

Jackson was never charged with a crime in the previous case. In the current one, he has pleaded not guilty to all charges.

And given Friday's events--or non-events--the singer's judgment day is near.

Melville told jurors, who already were taking Monday off for Memorial Day, wouldn't be needed in court on Tuesday, either. That's the day he set aside to hammer out jury instructions with lawyers from both sides. Given that schedule, Melville indicated closing arguments could proceed on either Wednesday or Thursday.
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Reply #103 posted 05/28/05 8:37pm

Luv4oneanotha

Mmm i dunno why Mez rested on the case letting that tape resonate like that
maybe he didn't think it was sufficient enough to bring the case back to home...
mmm

maybe hes planning an outstanding closing arguments
i dunno
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Reply #104 posted 05/29/05 1:47am

hellomoto

i saw on a mj board someone said that a ex prosecuter said when the tape of the accuser was being played, that the audience looked bored and some had a 'same old, same old' look. i hope thats true. i have said this many times but im gonna say it again, if michael gets found guilty or gets a hung dury i will completely schocked and dumbfounded, but theres still a little bit of me expecting a guilty verdict, but its probably just a natural feeling of negativity, and me trying to expect the unexpected.
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Reply #105 posted 05/29/05 5:08am

Cloudbuster

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sosgemini said:

PurpleKnight said:



Did I wake up to 1984? Mike's a goblin. neutral


we've tried...trust us..we've tried...


The guy is nearly 50 years old! He's gonna be rough some days. And you have to remember that people are attracted to different looks. He don't look so bad for a guy his age. And what he's going through is gonna take its toll on his appearance. I'm sure you'd be looking a little haggard if you were in his shoes.
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Reply #106 posted 05/29/05 6:30am

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Cloudbuster said:

sosgemini said:



we've tried...trust us..we've tried...


The guy is nearly 50 years old! He's gonna be rough some days. And you have to remember that people are attracted to different looks. He don't look so bad for a guy his age. And what he's going through is gonna take its toll on his appearance. I'm sure you'd be looking a little haggard if you were in his shoes.



Hey cloudhead, don't u get tired of always defending him lol

Jacko looks no age. He is ageless. Bravo mr jackson. U look 0393-92939309, whatever age that is?
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Reply #107 posted 05/29/05 6:37am

Cloudbuster

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thesexofit said:

Hey cloudhead, don't u get tired of always defending him lol


No, I'm tired of people finding whatever way they can to knock him.
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Reply #108 posted 05/29/05 6:43am

thesexofit

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Cloudbuster said:

thesexofit said:

Hey cloudhead, don't u get tired of always defending him lol


No, I'm tired of people finding whatever way they can to knock him.



Its too easy. But always fun. Who doesn't love a MJ joke?
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Reply #109 posted 05/29/05 6:49am

lilgish

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thesexofit said:

Cloudbuster said:



No, I'm tired of people finding whatever way they can to knock him.



Its too easy. But always fun. Who doesn't love a MJ joke?


not me neutral
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Reply #110 posted 05/29/05 8:46am

Luv4oneanotha

thesexofit said:

Cloudbuster said:



No, I'm tired of people finding whatever way they can to knock him.



Its too easy. But always fun. Who doesn't love a MJ joke?

depends what type
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