laurarichardson said:

White person over here - I don't think she's fat.

CalhounSq said:

mmm hmm. Reminds me of something my grandma used to say... "wasted yella".
That is what Mariah is. She has very average looks, with light skinned and straight hair that she blow dries straight and bleaches blond. And THAT is what drives the men mad, err, black men that is. (oops did I say that???
White men are not flipping out on the light skin, blond hair, because after all there is Paris, Jessica, Britney... who got all that AND a well toned body.
Now Halle Berry, who doesn't wear a lot of makeup, is light brown skin tone and many times wears her hair natural style, natural length is BEAUTIFUL. She tops them all!
Mariah is "wasted yella".

prodigalfan said:

You got her folks to blame

Harlepolis said:

Nope I don't blame her at all. I blame society. I say if that is what pays the bills, THEN WORK IT BABY!
It is all these dumb men who can't see past skin tone and hair (that you can buy at the corner store that looks just as good as Mariah note: Janet Jackson, Beyonce). Looking at those 2 pics, Mary J has prettier features than Mariah. There is something unattractive about Mariah's mouth and her cheeks.
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I dont think Mariah is skinny or fat-she looks regular,normal,just right-whatever u wanna call it.To tell the truth Mariah 2 me is a cute girl but i can find girls all around my neighborhood that look like her or on her level...nothin Spectacular about her-well except that voice and she has a GREAT smile but c'mon there are so many people with great simles-she also has very nice hair when its natural and actually coming out of her head(not that theres anything wrong with extentions)...
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Harlepolis said:

now, now, these girls are just obese, nothing sexy about that
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CalhounSq said:

Iam a man. I never see mary as sexy. She is pretty though

RipHer2Shreds said:

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Yea, for you. You may be the only white person that does not think Mariah is fat.

Harlepolis said:

Oh come on now. Paris is too skinny, but those two barns are the best you could find?

Paris is hot, plus she thought I was hot when I met her. Ain't no way in hell I'm getting with Monique, She's all ashy to. Me and Jill could swing though.

Mariah is not fat. now janet on the other hand










...just kidding They both need to go to the gym though. Janet use to be the bomb.
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I think that anyone who does not fit into a single digit number is considered fat and thus not fit 4 "those" roles- whatever the f*** that is suppossed 2 mean.

I think "hollywood" is just that Holly, Hollow, Empty, what we c reallly doesn't represent 4 all, its pretend, make-believe. thass a damn shame. waht have we gotten in2, who have we become?

Mariah needs to change her clothing style without a doubt...
But she still as it vocally. I'm not a fan of hers, but I heard "Mine Again" the other day and it has to be said, she can cut it. And where's Whitney?

I should reply that Jill Scott is very pretty. I don't see what her size would have to do with her "attractiveness". C'est la vie?

PurpleKnight said:

I'm sorry, Purple but joking or not, this is one fucked up thing to say. I usually do not generalize but MEN are the reason women have fucked up body images.

jjam said:

Jill Scott is stunning to me....but that may be because I'm a fellow 'barn'.

come on guys, i know doing bad things to get very skinny is bad and unhealthy. but those 2 girls are obese and are unhealthy too, being that big is not natural either. dont try and say its just hollywood that are sending the image of being skinny is good. people arent meant to be overweight. the average weight in the western world is increasing, a girl that is considered average weight now would have been considered fat 30 years ago. i looked at my school photos and compared them to my parents photos and people are so much fatter now, and its starting to become the norm, which is not good. i do think mariah is slightly and i mean SLIGHTLY overweight.

being anorexic shouldnt be excepted, but being overweight shouldnt be either.
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hellomoto said:

run now

hellomoto said:

Letting people 'be' should be accepted. Big or little.

hellomoto said:

Neither of these women is "obese" Jill is chunky, Monique was fat (she's been losing lately) but neither is "obese" - look up the word...

hellomoto said:

I REALLY agree with this post!

prodigalfan said:

Well then couldn't Prince be doing the same thing? Relaxing his hair and being light skinned to look more appeling to white women? I'm not saying your post isn't right...it probably is dead on...I just wanted to bring up this point.

laurarichardson said:

TheFrog said:

laurarichardson speaks for all white people I see.

Fatness is in the eye of the beholder.

BTW, reading this thread makes me realise that we still have a long way to go before racism will be in the past. Damn these generalisations...

minneapolisgenius said:

Hey, if we're confused, by laurarichardson's logic, Mariah must be pulling her hair out trying to understand her weight (that could explain her use of hair extensions). If Mariah's feeling fat, it's her white half talking. If she's feeling just right, that's the black side. And perhaps if she's feeling too skinny...that must be the the Venezuelan side?

Krystal666 said:

No you are missing it. OPPOSITES attract. Now this is an generalization, and I will probably get flamed for this, but this is MHO; when you see a mixed couple, very seldom do you see very light skinned with straight hair black people with white folks. It seems the black people would not be mistaken for anything other than black person. Like I have heard it said before, if a white man wanted Marsha Brady, he could have HAD Marsha Brady. I would imagine the same with white women, if they wanted Donny Osmond, hell they could get that. I have never really heard a white woman describe a black man as fine because he is "light skinned", but I have heard many black women use that qualifier. Same for white men, if they are going to cross over and go for an African American, it really makes no difference whether that woman is dark brown like Mary J or light skinned like Mariah.

Krystal666 said:

Just when I think you may not be retarded you say some shit like this P relaxes his hair b/c he's from Minni & apparently conks are required for Black men in that area As far as his skintone that's just his skintone - the shit ain't manufactured to attract anyone, it's just how he is. LAWD...

CalhounSq said:

you know you have a point there. MOrris, Oneal, Jerome, Terry Lewis, all those cats had Conk'd hair. I never really noticed that before you mentioned it.

prodigalfan said:

Don't forget Alexander O'Neal I think it's a law up there

CalhounSq said:

I just listened to his greatest hits today, I haven't forgotten that beautiful smooth black man.