lilgish said: thesexofit said: Voices did it a few months ago (to a crappy blown up janet pic).....u should too. Who is that in ur av anyway? Looks like a still from a film my dad would watch?
If I could only create an emoticon for what I'm feeling right now. Seriously ur av is interesting. Who is it? | |
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thesexofit said: lilgish said: If I could only create an emoticon for what I'm feeling right now. Seriously ur av is interesting. Who is it? my avatar http://www.classicmovies....01500a.htm my username - which is also part of my real name http://en.wikipedia.org/w...llian_Gish | |
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lilgish said: thesexofit said: Seriously ur av is interesting. Who is it? my avatar http://www.classicmovies....01500a.htm my username - which is also part of my real name http://en.wikipedia.org/w...llian_Gish I have seen "you cant take it with you". Good movie. I dont remember her in it though. They all looked the same back then to me. | |
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thesexofit said: lilgish said: my avatar http://www.classicmovies....01500a.htm my username - which is also part of my real name http://en.wikipedia.org/w...llian_Gish I have seen "you cant take it with you". Good movie. I dont remember her in it though. They all looked the same back then to me. She was the fucking lead actress | |
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lilgish said: thesexofit said: I have seen "you cant take it with you". Good movie. I dont remember her in it though. They all looked the same back then to me. She was the fucking lead actress I saw ut years ago Frank capra movie I think? | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Yeah, well maybe you ought to be a little more open-minded. Folk don't choose their sexuality but they do choose religion. No. I don't agree with it. IT IS WRONG. IT IS A SIN. And that is what I am going to believe. People keep on making excuses on why it's ok if you are gay. I wouldn't discrimate against someone who is gay though. Well, isn't that special? Heterosexual sex before marriage is also a sin but I guess it's OK to let that one slide since it's heterosexuals that are doing it? Seems like straight people can do every sex act possible before marriage and still have a halo over their head but gay people are evil as hell for their sex life. A sin is a sin no matter what foot the shoe is on. Everyone is a sinner and there is not a single person alive today that has never sinned. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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meow85 said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: No. I don't agree with it. IT IS WRONG. IT IS A SIN. And that is what I am going to believe. People keep on making excuses on why it's ok if you are gay. I wouldn't discrimate against someone who is gay though. But you do discriminate against gays, every single time you judge them by saying their actions and desires make them sinners. (which, may I point out, is also a sin) Very true. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Heterosexual sex before marriage is also a sin but I guess it's OK to let that one slide since it's heterosexuals that are doing it? Seems like straight people can do every sex act possible before marriage and still have a halo over their head but gay people are evil as hell for their sex life.
A sin is a sin no matter what foot the shoe is on. Everyone is a sinner and there is not a single person alive today that has never sinned. I agree. Well there are many chrisitians who do not do any type of sexual act until they are married. Well, Sex before marriage and homosexuality are sins. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Heterosexual sex before marriage is also a sin but I guess it's OK to let that one slide since it's heterosexuals that are doing it? Seems like straight people can do every sex act possible before marriage and still have a halo over their head but gay people are evil as hell for their sex life.
A sin is a sin no matter what foot the shoe is on. Everyone is a sinner and there is not a single person alive today that has never sinned. I agree. Well there are many chrisitians who do not do any type of sexual act until they are married. Well, Sex before marriage and homosexuality are sins. And those Christians that were virgins before they were married are guilty of some type of sin in their lifetime so they have no right to judge either. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: No. I don't agree with it. IT IS WRONG. IT IS A SIN. And that is what I am going to believe. People keep on making excuses on why it's ok if you are gay. I wouldn't discrimate against someone who is gay though. But if God created everyone, why is being who/what you are, a sin? [Edited 5/22/05 23:23pm] | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: No. I don't agree with it. IT IS WRONG. IT IS A SIN. And that is what I am going to believe. People keep on making excuses on why it's ok if you are gay. I wouldn't discrimate against someone who is gay though.
It's only a sin because the ignorant bigots who wrote the Bible said so. And because narrow minded people continue to believe it. . [Edited 5/23/05 5:46am] | |
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squiddyren said: jayaredee said: Remember when Madonna tried to get close to Michael and he started to giggle like a little girl. It intrigued her, cause during the early 90s no one could pick out a gay like Madonna. And she LOVES gays, and worships their culture. She wanted MJ to come out of the closet by hanging out with Jose and Luis (her flamboyant gay dancers) and to dress as a woman in the "In the Closet" video. The project may have occured and Madonna may have succeeded if Janet didn't intervene at that moment. She told Michael to get rid of Madonna. So he did.
Did Madge claim all that in an interview? Just curious. Yes,she did.She felt that Michael was a closeted homosexual (which was fine with her...she loves gay people),and she was determined to make him come out of that "shoebox in his closet".She wanted him to hang around with her gay dancers (Jose and Luis),and then dress like a woman in the "In The Closet" video.Michael declined.In retrospect,if he had taken Madonna's advice and came out back then,he would probably be in better shape (emotionally) right now.After all those years,he's still stuck in that shoebox and there aren't too many people who still think that he's straight. | |
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He's a man who can say that he sleeps with kids, on tv. I don't think he'd be afraid to admit he's gay, if he was [Edited 5/23/05 5:39am] | |
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LightOfArt said: He's a man who can say that he sleeps with kids, on tv. I don't think he'd be afraid to admit he's gay, if he was
Dunno, mate. His Dad is about as homophobic as they come. | |
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Cloudbuster said: LightOfArt said: He's a man who can say that he sleeps with kids, on tv. I don't think he'd be afraid to admit he's gay, if he was
Dunno, mate. His Dad is about as homophobic as they come. true. but I don't think he takes Papa Joe as siriously as he did when he was a kid. there was this '77 interview with Jackson family and Joe said he'd kill Mike if he did his nose. He ended up doing it like a 100 times. And when Joe was Mike's manager, he fired him, 2 times If he's a closet gay, bad for him...couldnt live his life the way he wanted, and probably wont be able to. good example of how society can ruin people's lives | |
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LightOfArt said: If he's a closet gay, bad for him...couldnt live his life the way he wanted, and probably wont be able to. good example of how society can ruin people's lives
Yeah, sad isn't it. | |
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DavidEye said: squiddyren said: Did Madge claim all that in an interview? Just curious. Yes,she did.She felt that Michael was a closeted homosexual (which was fine with her...she loves gay people),and she was determined to make him come out of that "shoebox in his closet".She wanted him to hang around with her gay dancers (Jose and Luis),and then dress like a woman in the "In The Closet" video.Michael declined.In retrospect,if he had taken Madonna's advice and came out back then,he would probably be in better shape (emotionally) right now.After all those years,he's still stuck in that shoebox and there aren't too many people who still think that he's straight. Interesting.. very interesting. Got a link so I can read the whole thing? | |
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LightOfArt said:
If he's a closet gay, bad for him...couldnt live his life the way he wanted, and probably wont be able to. good example of how society can ruin people's lives Very true. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said:[quote] krayzie said: dag said: exactly, you´re right, but that´s NOT MJ´s problem, but the sociaty´s. IT´s the sociaty that´s sick, not MJ! Society is sick, Michael Jackson is sick, and Michael jackson's fans are sick too.... PREACH! Jay, Ur sick because you are gay. How does that feel? Really offensive, isn't it? What I just said above isn't true and neither is the comment Krayzie made about all Michael Jackson fans being sick. Yes, there are some obessive fanatics out there that believe and agree with everything that Michael does. However, there are fans like me that disagree with what he does and says sometimes. U really need to watch your mouth, krayzie and stop generalizing people. Anyone on this board who is generalizing anything needs to stop. It's offensive and ignorant. Actually no it isn't offensive because i am gay and fucking proud of it. And if Jesus is gonna send me to hell for loving another, then Jesus is a hypocrite. At least when i'm in hell i'll get to hang out with Madonna and MJ. [Edited 5/23/05 6:37am] | |
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It's only a sin because the ignorant bigots who wrote the Bible said so. And because narrow minded people continue to believe it.
Uhh actually many disciples wrote the bible with god telling them what to write in it. I'm not going to argue this issue with anyone else. I don't agree with someone being gay and I believe it is a sin. That is what I believe. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Uhh actually many disciples wrote the bible with god telling them what to write in it. I'm not going to argue this issue with anyone else. I don't agree with someone being gay and I believe it is a sin. That is what I believe.
Well, that's the problem. People buy into Christianity without checking on its integrity or authenticity. True, the Bible is the writings of man. The word of God was decided by a council of voters who thought they had the right to determine what "The Word" actually was. I'm sure if a God really did exist then it wouldn't need the likes of us mere humans to choose its words for it, considering how all-powerful God is supposed to be, and all. Makes me wonder why said God didn't author the Bible itself. It can create a universe but is somewhat unable to write? Religion has been described as the opium of the masses. And it most certainly is. It's the easiest drug to sell and, in my opinion, the most mind-altering, life-changing and dangerous drug of them all. Just my | |
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Cloudbuster said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: Uhh actually many disciples wrote the bible with god telling them what to write in it. I'm not going to argue this issue with anyone else. I don't agree with someone being gay and I believe it is a sin. That is what I believe.
Well, that's the problem. People buy into Christianity without checking on its integrity or authenticity. True, the Bible is the writings of man. The word of God was decided by a council of voters who thought they had the right to determine what "The Word" actually was. I'm sure if a God really did exist then it wouldn't need the likes of us mere humans to choose its words for it, considering how all-powerful God is supposed to be, and all. Makes me wonder why said God didn't author the Bible itself. It can create a universe but is somewhat unable to write? Religion has been described as the opium of the masses. And it most certainly is. It's the easiest drug to sell and, in my opinion, the most mind-altering, life-changing and dangerous drug of them all. Just my well said man | |
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LightOfArt said: well said man
Thank you. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Heterosexual sex before marriage is also a sin but I guess it's OK to let that one slide since it's heterosexuals that are doing it? Seems like straight people can do every sex act possible before marriage and still have a halo over their head but gay people are evil as hell for their sex life.
A sin is a sin no matter what foot the shoe is on. Everyone is a sinner and there is not a single person alive today that has never sinned. I agree. Well there are many chrisitians who do not do any type of sexual act until they are married. Well, Sex before marriage and homosexuality are sins. and unless you are perfect in every way, shut up and don't judge lest ye be judged. let he who hast not sinned cast the first stone, etc. | |
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and unless you are perfect in every way, shut up and don't judge lest ye be judged.
let he who hast not sinned cast the first stone, etc. How am I judging then? Homosexuality is a sin. That's not judging. We are all sinners. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: and unless you are perfect in every way, shut up and don't judge lest ye be judged.
let he who hast not sinned cast the first stone, etc. How am I judging then? Homosexuality is a sin. That's not judging. We are all sinners. If a homosexual knew that they were gay but stayed a virgin for the rest of their life and never acted upon it, would that also be a sin? Andy is a four letter word. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: and unless you are perfect in every way, shut up and don't judge lest ye be judged.
let he who hast not sinned cast the first stone, etc. How am I judging then? Homosexuality is a sin. That's not judging. We are all sinners. It is judging in the way you phrase it. For a start, even those Christians who insist that practising homosexuality is a sin, refer to just that - practising homosexuality. you don't even try to make that distinction! just say that 'homosexuality is a sin'. that in itself sounds like judging to me. what if he's gay and hasn't acted on it? show me the biblical reference which condemns that. | |
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vainandy said: If a homosexual knew that they were gay but stayed a virgin for the rest of their life and never acted upon it, would that also be a sin? psyche. great minds, etc. | |
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testicleman said: vainandy said: If a homosexual knew that they were gay but stayed a virgin for the rest of their life and never acted upon it, would that also be a sin? psyche. great minds, etc. Yeah, we were apparently both typing at the same time. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Yeah, well maybe you ought to be a little more open-minded. Folk don't choose their sexuality but they do choose religion. No. I don't agree with it. IT IS WRONG. IT IS A SIN. And that is what I am going to believe. People keep on making excuses on why it's ok if you are gay. I wouldn't discrimate against someone who is gay though. Well, I think Homosexuality is o.k. and I make no excuses for it. I believe that you're pointing out that from your point of view, which is unwavering, it is a sin and you will not be influenced by what others think--and that's fine. But from my point of view, when I see two consenting adults find each other in the mix of a world so filled with lost and confused people (I'm speaking mostly of hetero's here), I am happy for them. And from my point of view, I'm not making any excuses for their life style choices whatesoever when I say that I support them. I simply don't see it as a sin, so I wouldn't need to make up excuses justifying something I already think is perfectly legitamate. A real sin in this country is the hertosexual divorce rate, if you ask me. | |
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