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Printablevainandy said: TonyVanDam said:
White Women!!!! 
See, that was easy. EDIT: I could be wrong for saying that. But I know for a fact that Michael don't want Black, Latina, or Asian. I don't think he is really attracted to white women sexually though. I think there are things about them that he admires. With all the plastic surgery, it looks to me that he doesn't want to have a white woman sexually, he wants to be a white woman. Or The Joker!  [Edited 5/18/05 13:46pm] | |
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Novabreaker said: Michael Jackson is obviously trans-gendered. But in a very unconventional way.
He prefers his face to look like a woman's (in fact his face alterations could be seen as one form of sex-change operations), yet from the head down he strikes to me as quite masculine. His choice of clothes isn't typical for a transvestite, they don't denote much overt feminine sexuality. And moreover, unlike transvestites he doesn't seem to be much of a fetishist. This would hint at some sort of asexuality indeed. I think the most important factor that people always forget when speculating Jackson's sexual orientation is that he is most likely quite shy about his appearance. Vitiligo or not, it's clear that if we saw Michael Jackson's body up-close, naked and without make-up the sight wouldn't necessarily be the most pleasant - he is apparently quite blotchy and definitely not what anyone would rank as sexually attractive (altough I do reserve the possibility that he doesn't look like a total monster either). That must have affected his sexual behaviour, most likely to his abstinence from it. The confiscated porn really proves no matter what that women turn him on. The amount of it found was quite staggering (which is actually quite bothering even, when thinking of the fact that a man of his status should be able to find a lover quite easily were the circumstances different). He didn't really have gay porn, as far as the court transcripts go. That one single item (?) was an art book that depicted gay fantasies. Who knows was he comfortable when watching the pictures, but I doubt he was reading it everyday. It is also possible to be "asexual" and be aroused by pornography, as asexuality manifests itself on the practical level. To me, he just seems scared of physical touch. And since he is quite old already, it surfaces in weird ways. - i.e. in his unconventional way of having children. [Edited 5/18/05 7:56am] This is an excellent post. I totally agree with every bit of it except the highlighted part. It's not that I don't agree with the highlighted part, but more that I can't understand it. I had always wondered if he was asexual but, as I said before, when they found porn, that would mean he is sexually attracted to some gender. I absolutely can't understand how an asexual would become sexually aroused by porn because they have no sexual interest in either gender. If he fantasizes about sex but is afraid to actually do anything, he would still be either gay, straight, or bi. Even a virgin could be gay, straight, or bi because their sexuality would be determined by what they are sexually attracted to whether they act upon it or not. This is a tough one to call. I've been around a lot of different types of people in my lifetime but Michael Jackson has got me stumped. I have truly never seen anyone like him. Hell, he can make you just as confused as he is trying to figure him out. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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CinisterCee said: MJ likes penis. The judge is trying to determine what age of penis he likes. Like they say on "Family Feud".....Good answer! Good answer! Andy is a four letter word. | |
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TonyVanDam said
Or The Joker! He looks more like Michael Myers from the movie "Halloween". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: TonyVanDam said
Or The Joker! He looks more like Michael Myers from the movie "Halloween". 
Someone else also make that comparison a while back in another thread. That's funny as sh*t. | |
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White women with the big ass booties. hahah. He probably watches Bet uncut. Hey I would date a man from another race. It doesn't matter to me. I don't care if Michael likes to date white women. If u really like someone, it shouldn't matter what color they are. I am really attracted to Black and Mexican men. | |
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vainandy said: TonyVanDam said
Or The Joker! He looks more like Michael Myers from the movie "Halloween". Ouch! | |
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If Michael was a normal person not growing up the way he did, he'd definitley be homosexual. He just needed a nice man to take care of him and hug him and tell him that he was beautiful just the way he was. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: If Michael was a normal person not growing up the way he did, he'd definitley be homosexual. He just needed a nice man to take care of him and hug him and tell him that he was beautiful just the way he was. I've always thought the same thing. If he didn't have a father that was such a strict abusive asshole and a mother that was such a strict Jehovah's Witness, I think he would have been a normal gay man and would have accepted it a long time ago. His parents probably think homosexuals are the most "evil" people on the face of the earth and Michael has worried too much about what his parents think. Earlier in the interview that started this whole controversy, Michael talked about how abusive his father was both verbally and physically. He also said he "loves" his father. Hell, if someone treated me like that, the last thing I would have for them would be "love". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: This is an excellent post. I totally agree with every bit of it except the highlighted part. It's not that I don't agree with the highlighted part, but more that I can't understand it. I had always wondered if he was asexual but, as I said before, when they found porn, that would mean he is sexually attracted to some gender. I absolutely can't understand how an asexual would become sexually aroused by porn because they have no sexual interest in either gender. If he fantasizes about sex but is afraid to actually do anything, he would still be either gay, straight, or bi. Even a virgin could be gay, straight, or bi because their sexuality would be determined by what they are sexually attracted to whether they act upon it or not. This is a tough one to call. I've been around a lot of different types of people in my lifetime but Michael Jackson has got me stumped. I have truly never seen anyone like him. Hell, he can make you just as confused as he is trying to figure him out. Well put. Like you, I've been around enough "types" that I can generally make a pretty educated guess and be right most of the time. But Michael's a mystery.  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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No major Black musician has ever admitted to being gay (haddaway doesn't count  ), I doubt mike will be the first.
I'm still waiting for Lil' Richard to come out... then Mike, Whitney, and a shit load of rappers..... | |
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lilgish said: No major Black musician has ever admitted to being gay (haddaway doesn't count ), I doubt mike will be the first.
I'm still waiting for Lil' Richard to come out... then Mike, Whitney, and a shit load of rappers..... I thought Little Richard did come out. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I thought Little Richard did come out. Nope. To this day, dude still denies liking the dick.
Sort of sad, actually. Especially considering how obvious he is. If he was "straight-acting", for lack of a better term, in a way it would make more sense to me that he'd try to hide it. Which leads to the question: (and no doubt a new thread) Is it easier for an obviously queer person to come out than someone who seems "straight" ?  "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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[quote] meow85 said: vainandy said: I thought Little Richard did come out. Nope. To this day, dude still denies liking the dick.
Sort of sad, actually. Especially considering how obvious he is. If he was "straight-acting", for lack of a better term, in a way it would make more sense to me that he'd try to hide it. Damn, I just assumed he already came out as flaming as he is. I mean he's very flaming. Which leads to the question: (and no doubt a new thread) Is it easier for an obviously queer person to come out than someone who seems "straight" ?
That's an interesting question. A straight looking gay person would find it hard to come out because they have seen the hatred that their more obviously gay brothers and sisters have faced on a daily basis. I would see it very hard for them come out. On the other hand, a more obviously gay person would find it hard to come out because of all the people that would be saying "I knew it" and "I told you so". Especially if that gay person is a strong minded person that ain't about to take no shit from nobody. That's a tough one. I think it's equally as hard. I do wish more straight looking gays would come out because it shows the world that a gay person could be anyone they know or anyone in their own family. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said:[quote] Damn, I just assumed he already came out as flaming as he is. I mean he's very flaming. Which leads to the question: (and no doubt a new thread) Is it easier for an obviously queer person to come out than someone who seems "straight" ?
That's an interesting question. A straight looking gay person would find it hard to come out because they have seen the hatred that their more obviously gay brothers and sisters have faced on a daily basis. I would see it very hard for them come out. On the other hand, a more obviously gay person would find it hard to come out because of all the people that would be saying "I knew it" and "I told you so". Especially if that gay person is a strong minded person that ain't about to take no shit from nobody. That's a tough one. I think it's equally as hard. I do wish more straight looking gays would come out because it shows the world that a gay person could be anyone they know or anyone in their own family.
Lots of people still have the image of a gay person as the hairdresser in makeup and a boa, or the flannel-wearing woman who drives a pickup. Then there's us bi folks. We're all a bunch of raging whores, apparently. 
I'm really not sure what the answer to this would be regarding all gay people. I supect the answer would have a lot to do with the climate of homophobia vs. tolerance in the area they live. I know where I am, the more obvious queers have no choice but to come out. If they don't come out themselves, someone will find a way of forcing them out of the closet. But there's also a staggering number of closeted gays who pass for straight and have no intention of changing that. A close friend of mine is one of these people. He's very "macho" and has quite an impressive sexual history already though he's only 20. He thinks nobody knows his little secret. It would be funny if it wasn't so painfully obvious he would be happier with another man than he's managed to be with all his girls. And believe me, there's been a lot. When I came out as bi, it wasn't an issue. For some reason or another, nearly all my friends I grew up with turned out also to be gay or bi, as did my younger sister.I think a lot of typical coming out behaviour is associated with a feeling of isolation or fear, but since we all knew we weren't alone, very few of uswent through the typical stages. Which is what makes my friend's behaviour all the more perplexing. He's not religious, and he already knows he's not alone and won't lose friends for being honest. Then again, homophobia, internalized or otherwise, often goes hand in hand with anxiety about gender and being seen as masculine or feminine enough, so perhaps that's the issue. I'd say some sort of study should be done, but since no one's really sure what percentage of people are queer to begin with, it would be difficult. Conducting the survey without a bias of any kind would also be next to impossible, especially with an issue as contentious as this. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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vainandy said: It's not that I don't agree with the highlighted part, but more that I can't understand it.
Yeah. Well, it's just a matter of terminology and its usage - whether you want to see sexuality as a broad phenomenon that affects all of our behaviour (freudian libido), or as something concrete - a performed, fulfilled sex life. And I was pointing to this latter one with that comment. "Asexuality" is arguably not really one brand of sexuality as being straight/gay/bi are, it is in fact a form of strongly repressed sexuality and that in itself has social factors behind it - usually childhood traumas. It is of course possible for a person to lack sexual drive altogether, but in case of Michael Jackson possessing pornography this clearly is not the case. He is more than likely scared of having actual sex. Or more to the point, he is scared of the notion of having to have actual sex. However, there can even be social incentives in some cases to develop some sort of sexual behaviour over asexual state, the gender performative. In a way this also happens to each of us, and to some individuals it just goes a bit over the social norms. In this conceptually transmitted world, social sexuality takes the place of natural sexuality. For instance, no one is born a transvestite or a fetishist - or with a desire to surgically alter their faces to resemble the opposite sex's. Those tendencies are far beyond our genetic capacity. Social practices do not transmit genetically, and are not "natural". Anything that is characterized as "social" is also "unnatural" by definition. I've been around a lot of different types of people in my lifetime but Michael Jackson has got me stumped.
I know. My best guess is that he is clearly the type of person who has a severe personality disorder. In freudian terms, he is a "pervert". This interpretation is somewhat different from the everyday usage of the word. A pervert in these definitions refers to someone who wants to include the object of their desire within themselves, whereas natural (known actually as "neurotic" sexuality) wants to possess - i.e. getting married with the object of your desire. Trans[-]sexuals and trans[-]vestites both belong to the first group, but in quite different ways. Trans[-]vestites are fetishist in nature, they project feminity through accessories and exaggerated social behaviour, whereas trans[-]sexuals go somewhere deeper. It is to my understanding that approximately half of the men that have gone through sex-change operations deem themselves "lesbian", other half view themselves as "straight" women. This would indicate that strong social factors play an important role in even deciding a pervert individuals sexual orientation. It's almost free for full exploitation as its not obviously bound by social norms in the same sense it is with "strict" heterosexuals, either that or trans[-]vestites and trans[-]sexuals are categorically speaking total, polar opposites to each other. If you count up all the possible deviations and characterize each of them as different forms of "gender" you'll end up with eight or more variations instead of just the two. In Michael Jackson's psyche, as far as I can make wild guesses on it, he doesn't match with his own identity exactly because of his heterosexuality. This results in his type of androgyny, not as typical transgenerism as it is portrayed in gay culture. In short, Michael Jackson wants on some level (and on a very concrete one too, as far as face alterations go) to be a woman because having to face with his male sexuality is an unbearable thought to him. On the other hand, if he is straight he is faced with the dilemma created by the demands of the so-called natural sexuality and his desire to be of the opposite sex. "Real" women, as you see, are supposedly sexually attracted to males. The most common misconception is of course that this would turn the so-called androgynous men gay, but that's a bit rash assumption. It is crucial to remember that the object of their desire creates their transgendered behaviour in the first place! When you add his skin condition plus his regressive childlike behaviour on top of it, no wonder Jackson ends up looking like quite a mess to the rest of us. I think however, that he has sustained his identity as a male quite strongly. He is still "Michael", he hasn't gone all the way. He is still predominantly male. I think I need a cup of tea after typing all of this. | |
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Novabreaker said:
Michael Jackson is obviously trans-gendered. But in a very unconventional way. He prefers his face to look like a woman's (in fact his face alterations could be seen as one form of sex-change operations), yet from the head down he strikes to me as quite masculine. His choice of clothes isn't typical for a transvestite, they don't denote much overt feminine sexuality. And moreover, unlike transvestites he doesn't seem to be much of a fetishist. This would hint at some sort of asexuality indeed. I think the most important factor that people always forget when speculating Jackson's sexual orientation is that he is most likely quite shy about his appearance. Vitiligo or not, it's clear that if we saw Michael Jackson's body up-close, naked and without make-up the sight wouldn't necessarily be the most pleasant - he is apparently quite blotchy and definitely not what anyone would rank as sexually attractive (altough I do reserve the possibility that he doesn't look like a total monster either). That must have affected his sexual behaviour, most likely to his abstinence from it. The confiscated porn really proves no matter what that women turn him on. The amount of it found was quite staggering (which is actually quite bothering even, when thinking of the fact that a man of his status should be able to find a lover quite easily were the circumstances different). He didn't really have gay porn, as far as the court transcripts go. That one single item (?) was an art book that depicted gay fantasies. Who knows was he comfortable when watching the pictures, but I doubt he was reading it everyday. It is also possible to be "asexual" and be aroused by pornography, as asexuality manifests itself on the practical level. To me, he just seems scared of physical touch. And since he is quite old already, it surfaces in weird ways. - i.e. in his unconventional way of having children. Someone other than me with a brain on an MJ thread. How refreshing. yeah.
I don´t know guys, but if you put aside his looks (his make-up etc) and concentrate on just the way he acts, I don´t see any signs of feminity in it at all. His dance, his gestures, anything is MOTHING female-like. The way he dresses (all those military outfits) do not suggest any transsexulity. I mean you´ll NEVER see MJ dressed as Prince in the Most beautiful girl video or anything that Freddie Mercure has ever wore. MJ dresses quite "normally" out of all the celebrities. It´s just his face - all that make-up which I think he uses mostly because of vitiligo. He hasn´t used make-up before Off the wall. He´s never looked like David Bowie or any of those guys before off the wall. And as for his behaviour towards other. Watch the NY signíng. You´ll see there a LOT of sings as to who he seems to be attracted to. He really likes women guys, like it or not. I don´t think that the fact he doesn´t show with them in public as other celebrities do, suggest he doesn´t have any. I mean just remember how long we didn´t know about Lisa Marie. They were several weeks already married and nobody knew. And it´s true that they did show together in public before we found out they were married, but I guess NOBODY EVER IMAGINED they could be an item. WIth any other celebrity ppl would be wondering already, but not with MJ. I just see him pretty normal guys in this way regarding how "weird" he is. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said:
I don´t know guys, but if you put aside his looks (his make-up etc) and concentrate on just the way he acts, I don´t see any signs of feminity in it at all. You need to listen to him speak. His speaks more feminine than most gay men. When he sits, he has feminine gestures with his hands. He also brushes the hair from eyes just like a woman. I heard him laugh on the documentary that started this whole controversy. When he was in the car and the guy jumped in front of the car dancing like him and was pulled back by the police.....Michael laughed and let out a loud scream that was more feminine than a bunch of drunk queens clowning around with each other. The way he dresses (all those military outfits) do not suggest any transsexulity.
He has the mind of a child. I saw one of his concerts on TV from the 1990s and he didn't have on a thing that matched. I said "He really needs an adult to pick out his clothes for him". He hasn´t used make-up before Off the wall. He´s never looked like David Bowie or any of those guys before off the wall.
He was also a child. Joseph would have beat his ass if he wore make-up. I don't doubt the vitiligo but what about the lipstick and eyeliner? Not to mention all the plastic surgery to make his face look like an old worn out woman. I mean just remember how long we didn´t know about Lisa Marie. They were several weeks already married and nobody knew. And it´s true that they did show together in public before we found out they were married, but I guess NOBODY EVER IMAGINED they could be an item.
That was strictly for show. It also came right after the first child molestation charges. Michael wanted people to think he was normal so he married a woman. I doubt that they ever had sex. When they kissed on TV, that looked totally like an act. [Edited 5/19/05 3:28am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I thought Little Richard did come out.
I've heard him call himself a homosexual so I dunno how you can remain in the closet after saying that. | |
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That was strictly for show. It also came right after the first child molestation charges. Michael wanted people to think he was normal so he married a woman. I doubt that they ever had sex. When they kissed on TV, that looked totally like an act.
I don't think Lisa Marie would marry someone who wont fuck her | |
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LightOfArt said: That was strictly for show. It also came right after the first child molestation charges. Michael wanted people to think he was normal so he married a woman. I doubt that they ever had sex. When they kissed on TV, that looked totally like an act.
I don't think Lisa Marie would marry someone who wont fuck her That's why they're not married anymore. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: That's why they're not married anymore. I'm sure they did it atleast couple of times in 2 years | |
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Funny how so often female fans always insist on Michael being hetero and how he's loving a plethora of women behind closed doors and we just don't know about it. He and Brooke were banging frequently, didn't cha know?
Anyhoo, Michael's not flaming but he does have some feminine gestures--however, that of course does not make him gay. When he did that brief interview with Barabra Walters after Princess Di's death and she asked him about his style of dress and he crossed his legs and all but 'clutched his pearls' asking, "What's wrong with the way I dress?" That was one of his best flaming moments. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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vainandy said: .....Michael laughed and let out a loud scream that was more feminine than a bunch of drunk queens clowning around with each other.
Hey, can anybody just explain this to me, though, for a second? A chin cleft isn't usually regarded as a feminine feature so why did Michael get one in the late 80s? | |
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squiddyren said: Hey, can anybody just explain this to me, though, for a second? A chin cleft isn't usually regarded as a feminine feature so why did Michael get one in the late 80s? The cleft chin is usually synonymous with handsome or beauty in men. A classic handsome man by European standards is a straight nose, strong chin, defined jaw line and a cleft or dimple in the chin. Think of Tom Selleck, Timothy Dalton, Michael Douglas or Cary Grant and even Batman. Michael already had the jaw line so I use to think he thought he was adding to his face with the cleft. But the top half the face is reminiscent of a woman. Aw, hell he's just androgynous. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: The cleft chin is usually synonymous with handsome or beauty in men. A classic handsome man by European standards is a straight nose, strong chin, defined jaw line and a cleft or dimple in the chin. Think of Tom Selleck, Timothy Dalton, Michael Douglas or Cary Grant and even Batman.
Oh great. Now it's not just "Michael's trying to look like Liza Minnelli, Brooke Shields, Elizabeth Taylor" - he's also trying to look like Batman! vainandy said: Michael laughed and let out a loud scream that was more feminine than a bunch of drunk queens clowning around with each other. Teehee. I thought so too when I saw that. It's true though that Michael's feminity has increased over the years. And just look at the way he is with children - with his own or other's. It's quite mother-ly, don't you think? That's why it strikes to us as somewhat strange and at the same time as quite comfortable too. It's a bit off because we see a man behaving like that, holding hands with kids, yet his behaviour is often that of a woman's so we can relate to it on another level. I am not even questioning the warmth, and his "ability to connect with children" even if he turnt out to be a paedophile (or not). There's nothing too magical about it, he just does it in a very womanly way. Of course, he apparently manages to be like a kid among the kids too. | |
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Janet is the only one in the family who can accept he's gay.
Prince also knows Mike is gay. (Plus I thought he was gay) | |
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You need to listen to him speak. His speaks more feminine than most gay men. When he sits, he has feminine gestures with his hands. He also brushes the hair from eyes just like a woman. I heard him laugh on the documentary that started this whole controversy. When he was in the car and the guy jumped in front of the car dancing like him and was pulled back by the police.....Michael laughed and let out a loud scream that was more feminine than a bunch of drunk queens clowning around with each other.
I know what you mean, but I´ve noticed he´s this way when he´s nervous. When you see a behind the scenes footage, he acts masculine. He was also a child. Joseph would have beat his ass if he wore make-up.
That was strictly for show. It also came right after the first child molestation charges. Michael wanted people to think he was normal so he married a woman. I doubt that they ever had sex. When they kissed on TV, that looked totally like an act.
you can look at it that way, but LMP has said herself he wanted to meet her way before, but she refused him so it wasn´t his fault that she was willing to f*** him when the molestation charges surfaced. If she agreed back than, maybe they´d marry back than. I don't think Lisa Marie would marry someone who wont fuck her
That's why they're not married anymore. C´mon. Lisa has never looked happier than when she was with him. What happened between them is their business, but I think they loved each other. The cleft chin is usually synonymous with handsome or beauty in men. A classic handsome man by European standards is a straight nose, strong chin, defined jaw line and a cleft or dimple in the chin. Think of Tom Selleck, Timothy Dalton, Michael Douglas or Cary Grant and even Batman.
Oh great. Now it's not just "Michael's trying to look like Liza Minnelli, Brooke Shields, Elizabeth Taylor" - he's also trying to look like Batman! good one
Janet is the only one in the family who can accept he's gay.
Prince also knows Mike is gay. (Plus I thought he was gay) ?????"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag, just pretend this is you, ok
Daq is one of my favorite mj fans on here. | |
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I feel Mike has always been gay. It's nothing to get all defensive about. The MJ fans who get all pissed when others think he is gay strike me as homophobes, which may be a reason MJ hasn't been able to come out.
Seriously, i think it has something to do when he was young and his bros were fucking girls in the hotel and he had to sleep there while they were fucking. He probably resented that and grew up to look at women in a different fashion that wasn't sexual. Michael was part of a strict Jehova Witness family. He wouldn't dare come out of the closet, and I'm sure Joe would not be totally forgiving of that. I know how it feels, as growing up as a Catholic, i couldn't come to terms with myself until i moved out and started living on my own without the sheild which blocked me from reality. Sure MJ lives on his own, but the Jacksons are a tightly knit family. Look at how he dresses. The man loves make-up, clothing that is really flashy, and he makes himself up really feminine. He walks like a queen too. With the glitter glove he wore and waved with, he looked like the queen of england. Im serious. Liz Taylor and Liza Manelli are more than his friends. They're his FAG HAGS. Every gay guy has them. Liz and Liza are huge gay icons and Mike is best friends with them. Surely they know he is gay. Janet is the sister that is protective of MJ. Gay guys that are fortunate to have sisters usually have their sister to protect them. She has always came to his rescue and been the wing that protected him. Any slam at Michael is a slam at her too. Remember when Madonna tried to get close to Michael and he started to giggle like a little girl. It intrigued her, cause during the early 90s no one could pick out a gay like Madonna. And she LOVES gays, and worships their culture. She wanted MJ to come out of the closet by hanging out with Jose and Luis (her flamboyant gay dancers) and to dress as a woman in the "In the Closet" video. The project may have occured and Madonna may have succeeded if Janet didn't intervene at that moment. She told Michael to get rid of Madonna. So he did. Part of me feels that Janet knew that Madonna knew (Janet already knew MJ was gay) and knew of Madonna's behavior to "out" gays. Madonna did it to her own brother, so what would stop her from outting MJ. To this day only few have had it confirmed by MJ himself, like Janet Liz and Liza. Im sure they all know the truth but never peep a word [Edited 5/19/05 9:36am] | |
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