So Larry G. has effectively killed TWO brilliant careers:

1. Sly Stone
2. Prince


Quite a list huh...

theAudience said:

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The shenanigans in Gary King's imagination (LOL)

theAudience said:

I don't get that either . I've been to about 15 Prince concerts since '82 , and For me, the best one was a small "Hit and Run" type show he did with Larry Graham at the Capital Ballroom in DC back in '98...it was stripped down, and everything was an extended jam, in fact , at the beginning, Prince and Larry Graham both came on playing the Bass--and Rhonda was already on stage, so you had a triple bass throwdown--but they didn't get in each other's way, they were lisening to each other, and played so that each bassline actually complimented the other--and Lawd it was Funky!! The whole show was very relaxed and loose, Prince was very talkative throughout, and you could tell he was having a great time. The concerts before and since then have been great, but it was a treat hearing him just stretch out have fun and jam with one of his musical heroes for a few hours...




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laurarichardson said:[quote]

theAudience said:

all that bullshit with Tina and the towel. "touch the bass." all that "baby brother" crap. and taking his shoes off to present to the crowd.

.... Awww lawd... nevermind... I don't even want to get my "pressure" up tonight.
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EvilWhiteMale said:

And yet

you say:

For one who knows so little, you know "so much". I would reply but you cancel yourself out just fine.

I really don't get all this Larry hate. It's so stupid that it's almost funny.

Question to EWM: Why is it that you seem to turn up in threads of those you know so little of yet feel so strongly about?

EvilWhiteMale said:

It's kinda hard to believe that you've never heard of Sly & the Family Stone before, one of the most influental groups of all times and one of the first integrated funk groups in music history. Larry's and Sly's influence has always been very obvious in Prince's sound. So it's nothing new. You may never have heard of the "fuck", but that might be because you don't really care for funk music too much. But if you gave Sly a try, I'm sure you'd love them and you'd gain more respect for Larry. If you like Prince, especially his older music, you will surely appreciate Sly.
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GrayKing said:[quote]

laurarichardson said:

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Those shenanigans are nothing to get you underwear in a bind over. I have seen Prince everytime is come to the D.C area except for the Capital Ballroom performance. Larry was only at two of those shows that I saw and none of the shenanigans you menitoned took place.

I think the shenanigans have not happen as much as you think they have and let's be honest it is show business everybody has their routine. It is a part of putting on a show.

anon said:

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I think we all know the answer to that last question. A lot of funk haters or no nothings when it comes to funk on this board.

anon said:

I've seen enough of Larry over the last bunch of years to know quite a bit.

Thank you.

MrSoulpower said:

When did I ever say I never heard of Sly & the Family Stone?

laurarichardson said:

Oh honey, you need to get laid quick.

EvilWhiteMale said:

I assumed that since you never heard of Larry, maybe you were not familar with Sly. Larry was - next to Sly - the most important contributor to the band's sound. He was a true innovator and his bassplaying has influenced a whole generation of bassplayers in funk and rock. If you've never heard of him, that doesn't really speak against him, more against your knowledge of music.

psykosoul said:

You need a message, psyko baby?

blackguitaristz said:

cosigns

MrSoulpower said:

I've known about the band for years, just not the names of all the members. It's not my kind of music, so I never cared enough to investigate.

Besides, it's not like the general public knows who Larry is. He's no Bootsy Collins.

I'm no Larry fan or hater. However it seems Prince wanted/needed to be influenced by him for SOME reason.

Who's to say what might have become of Prince if not for his friendship with Larry. Would the Larry doubters feel better if Prince "lost it" giving in to his temptations while keeping an acceptable (to fans) distance from Larry ?

Anyone who says yes obviously doesn't care about Prince, the person.

origmnd said:

Judging from a lot of the fans in the online Prince world, I would say the majority don't give a fuck about Prince, the person.

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

Purty please with sugar on top?

psykosoul said:

Anything for you.

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

Actually, "fans" are fans of a persona. That's it. So it makes sense that many would be upset with anything that took their persona away. Everyone needs a scapegoat. Guess in this case it's poor Larry.

anon said:

Ah, good point. I guess celebrities are not afforded the luxury of being human too.

EvilWhiteMale said:

See, with statements like this I cannot understand why people on this board(myself included) let EWM's comments get under our skin. Larry Graham is no Bootsy Collins? I hope you are not serious...they are like 1 and 1A.
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DorothyParkerWasCool said:

I'm sayin...

That statement alone about Bootsy let's you know EWM is just talking out of his ass about some something he really knows nothing about. Besides, Bootsy being in a few basketball sneaker commercials didn't make him a household name with the general public.
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psykosoul said:

TheOrgerFormerlyKnownAs said:

The trick is to be human but not too human. That when the probs arise. Look at Larry.
Seriously. If Prince put on 50lbs, would he not get the same treatment that D'Angelo is getting.
If he were knocking on doors asking for a place to stay or for food to eat, how many people would let him in/feed him? The person (not the persona). Probably not many. Larry probably would however.

But then it's entertainment. And entertainment is only a business. It's not life.

EvilWhiteMale said:

Your keyphrase is "not your kind of music". That is totally acceptable. But just because it's not your kind of music, please don't put down Larry's impact on music in general. He may be no Bootsy by fame, but he has accomplished far more in style and influence than Bootsy. Even Bootsy got his playing style from Larry Graham (and Sweet Charles Sherrell).

You may not like Larry, because he hangs with Prince. That's cool. But it's undeniable that Larry at a huge impact on popular music culture .. and especially on Prince, when he was little. Now that he is a grown man and finally a matured musician, it's only logical that he likes to hang out and play with the idols of his youth - Larry and Maceo.

I can assure you that it wasn't Larry who "brainwashed" Prince. Larry simply helped Prince to find the path he was looking for. But Prince had to walk that path by himself. He is a grown man who makes his own decisions, whether you like them or not. And if his choice of religion helps the man to find peace and security, what's wrong with it?

MrSoulpower said:

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Co-Sign. I can't understand why other people are upset at the path that P has taken . It is his life and if makes him happy why would that concern his fans.

MrSoulpower said:

nothing as long as he doesent try to force his beliefs on to others

nothing if he respects people who choose a different path

nothing if he doesent allow it to restrict his creativity

Raine said: