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Thread started 05/15/05 3:51pm

missfee

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Faith Evans in the Vibe Magazine

I just got an issue of the Vibe Magazine with Faith Evans on the front (yeah i know its been out a while), but as I was reading her article there was a little saying in there that disturbed me:

"While Evans was elevated to hip hop's version of the bereaved first lady, she didn't accept the idea that she should become one of those long-suffering, seemingly asexual widows like Betty Shabazz or Coretta Scott King."

I have a little problem with this statement, because why are they comparing an R&B singer to women who stood by the sides of their Civil Rights leader husbands? The two don't even compare by a long shot. Biggie was just a rapper who got shot. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. were assassinated. They stood up for their people by all means, all Biggie did was rap about his past life as a hustler and life in New York's projects. Did he try to help his people make a change for a better life other than just rapping about it? As wives of slain Civil Rights leaders, how could another man even compare to Malcolm X or MLK? I think it would have been hard for Betty Shabazz or Coretta to even try to look for a man that could fill those shoes. But this is just my opinion. What are your thoughts on this?
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Reply #1 posted 05/15/05 5:48pm

musicman

missfee said:

I just got an issue of the Vibe Magazine with Faith Evans on the front (yeah i know its been out a while), but as I was reading her article there was a little saying in there that disturbed me:

"While Evans was elevated to hip hop's version of the bereaved first lady, she didn't accept the idea that she should become one of those long-suffering, seemingly asexual widows like Betty Shabazz or Coretta Scott King."

I have a little problem with this statement, because why are they comparing an R&B singer to women who stood by the sides of their Civil Rights leader husbands? The two don't even compare by a long shot. Biggie was just a rapper who got shot. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. were assassinated. They stood up for their people by all means, all Biggie did was rap about his past life as a hustler and life in New York's projects. Did he try to help his people make a change for a better life other than just rapping about it? As wives of slain Civil Rights leaders, how could another man even compare to Malcolm X or MLK? I think it would have been hard for Betty Shabazz or Coretta to even try to look for a man that could fill those shoes. But this is just my opinion. What are your thoughts on this?



Yeah, when I read that, it disturbed. The article had a wierd vibe to me. What do you think about her husband? He seems like he's guiding her career to something-- yet there seems to be something controlling about him.
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Reply #2 posted 05/15/05 6:12pm

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Is that the magazine with The Notorious F.A.I.T.H. on it? rolleyes
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Reply #3 posted 05/15/05 9:10pm

musicman

Yep, that's the one. I hope people write in about that statement because it was truely ridiculous to even mention Biggie in the same vein as Malcolm and Martin.

Come One he nor 2Pac were martyrs.
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Reply #4 posted 05/16/05 5:12am

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missfee said:

I just got an issue of the Vibe Magazine with Faith Evans on the front (yeah i know its been out a while), but as I was reading her article there was a little saying in there that disturbed me:

"While Evans was elevated to hip hop's version of the bereaved first lady, she didn't accept the idea that she should become one of those long-suffering, seemingly asexual widows like Betty Shabazz or Coretta Scott King."

I have a little problem with this statement, because why are they comparing an R&B singer to women who stood by the sides of their Civil Rights leader husbands? The two don't even compare by a long shot. Biggie was just a rapper who got shot. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. were assassinated. They stood up for their people by all means, all Biggie did was rap about his past life as a hustler and life in New York's projects. Did he try to help his people make a change for a better life other than just rapping about it? As wives of slain Civil Rights leaders, how could another man even compare to Malcolm X or MLK? I think it would have been hard for Betty Shabazz or Coretta to even try to look for a man that could fill those shoes. But this is just my opinion. What are your thoughts on this?

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Because some people in the Hip-Hop world are mentally unbalanced enough to think that Biggie and Tupac were mayters for the hip-hop cause. Instead of two rappers who just got shot.
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Reply #5 posted 05/16/05 6:13am

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missfee said:

I have a little problem with this statement, because why are they comparing an R&B singer to women who stood by the sides of their Civil Rights leader husbands? The two don't even compare by a long shot. Biggie was just a rapper who got shot. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. were assassinated. They stood up for their people by all means, all Biggie did was rap about his past life as a hustler and life in New York's projects. Did he try to help his people make a change for a better life other than just rapping about it? As wives of slain Civil Rights leaders, how could another man even compare to Malcolm X or MLK? I think it would have been hard for Betty Shabazz or Coretta to even try to look for a man that could fill those shoes. But this is just my opinion. What are your thoughts on this?


Nothing more needs to be said. You expressed it perfectly. What the hell has Faith been smoking?
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Reply #6 posted 05/16/05 11:32am

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The problem is with the editor/author of the story, not Faith. B.I.G./2pac may not have meant anything 2 some folks, but they were someone's son, best friend, husband,father, etc.
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Reply #7 posted 05/16/05 11:52am

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musicman said:

Yep, that's the one. I hope people write in about that statement because it was truely ridiculous to even mention Biggie in the same vein as Malcolm and Martin.

Come One he nor 2Pac were martyrs.


worship OMG THANK YOU!! What the hell was so special about Tupac? I mean, really. "Oh, he's a genius" "He's just misunderstood" Nigga Please. He was just another mad black man with talent. And now people wanna idolize him with t-shirts and jewelry. Please.
Who's gonna stop 200 Balloons?
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Reply #8 posted 05/16/05 12:12pm

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GlitterStream said:

musicman said:

Yep, that's the one. I hope people write in about that statement because it was truely ridiculous to even mention Biggie in the same vein as Malcolm and Martin.

Come One he nor 2Pac were martyrs.


worship OMG THANK YOU!! What the hell was so special about Tupac? I mean, really. "Oh, he's a genius" "He's just misunderstood" Nigga Please. He was just another mad black man with talent. And now people wanna idolize him with t-shirts and jewelry. Please.



lmao
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Reply #9 posted 05/16/05 1:25pm

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AcutenPetiteGrl said:

GlitterStream said:



worship OMG THANK YOU!! What the hell was so special about Tupac? I mean, really. "Oh, he's a genius" "He's just misunderstood" Nigga Please. He was just another mad black man with talent. And now people wanna idolize him with t-shirts and jewelry. Please.



lmao



LOL at that Vibe article..
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Reply #10 posted 05/16/05 1:46pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

missfee said:

I have a little problem with this statement, because why are they comparing an R&B singer to women who stood by the sides of their Civil Rights leader husbands? The two don't even compare by a long shot. Biggie was just a rapper who got shot. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. were assassinated. They stood up for their people by all means, all Biggie did was rap about his past life as a hustler and life in New York's projects. Did he try to help his people make a change for a better life other than just rapping about it? As wives of slain Civil Rights leaders, how could another man even compare to Malcolm X or MLK? I think it would have been hard for Betty Shabazz or Coretta to even try to look for a man that could fill those shoes. But this is just my opinion. What are your thoughts on this?


Nothing more needs to be said. You expressed it perfectly. What the hell has Faith been smoking?




clapping Agree...
Very well said indeed.....
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Reply #11 posted 05/16/05 1:52pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

missfee said:

I have a little problem with this statement, because why are they comparing an R&B singer to women who stood by the sides of their Civil Rights leader husbands? The two don't even compare by a long shot. Biggie was just a rapper who got shot. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, Jr. were assassinated. They stood up for their people by all means, all Biggie did was rap about his past life as a hustler and life in New York's projects. Did he try to help his people make a change for a better life other than just rapping about it? As wives of slain Civil Rights leaders, how could another man even compare to Malcolm X or MLK? I think it would have been hard for Betty Shabazz or Coretta to even try to look for a man that could fill those shoes. But this is just my opinion. What are your thoughts on this?


Nothing more needs to be said. You expressed it perfectly. What the hell has Faith been smoking?


Marijuana.

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Reply #12 posted 05/16/05 1:56pm

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sextonseven said:

uPtoWnNY said:



Nothing more needs to be said. You expressed it perfectly. What the hell has Faith been smoking?


Marijuana.



falloff Oh shit...
Who's gonna stop 200 Balloons?
YO MAMA!!
LET'S DO IT!!!
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Reply #13 posted 05/16/05 2:42pm

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scorp84 said:

The problem is with the editor/author of the story, not Faith. B.I.G./2pac may not have meant anything 2 some folks, but they were someone's son, best friend, husband,father, etc.

thats true, and no one is denying the fact that B.I.G. wasn't a father, son, husband, etc. but c'mon here, Faith was just a wife who half the time didn't even stand by Biggie's side, which is why they were apart when he died...

there's no way you could compare that to Betty Shabazz and Coretta whose husbands were gone half the time trying to make a change in the world.
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Reply #14 posted 05/16/05 4:00pm

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Perhaps it was a young writer at the magazine that wrote that. That's not to say it justifies their comment, but just a little naive.
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