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Reply #60 posted 05/13/05 8:51pm

MsLegs

sextonseven said:

NWF said:

hmmm All I can think of now are my favorite New Wave acts:

The B-52's


I think 'Wild Planet' is better than their debut. And then there's 'Cosmic Thing'...

nod B-52's along w/Devo has always been one of my all time favorite New Wave groups and that will never change. I still rock out to thier music.
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Reply #61 posted 05/13/05 9:02pm

NWF

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MsLegs said:

sextonseven said:



I think 'Wild Planet' is better than their debut. And then there's 'Cosmic Thing'...

nod B-52's along w/Devo has always been one of my all time favorite New Wave groups and that will never change. I still rock out to thier music.


It doesn't get any more New Wave than them. wink

At least not in America.
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #62 posted 05/13/05 9:15pm

MsLegs

NWF said:

MsLegs said:


nod B-52's along w/Devo has always been one of my all time favorite New Wave groups and that will never change. I still rock out to thier music.


It doesn't get any more New Wave than them. wink

At least not in America.

nod True.
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Reply #63 posted 05/13/05 9:57pm

sextonseven

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NWF said:

MsLegs said:


nod B-52's along w/Devo has always been one of my all time favorite New Wave groups and that will never change. I still rock out to thier music.


It doesn't get any more New Wave than them. wink

At least not in America.


You might be right. Missing Persons comes close, but I can't think of a more pure U.S. new wave act. Blondie always seemed more punk to me.
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Reply #64 posted 05/14/05 12:35am

MsLegs

sextonseven said:

NWF said:



It doesn't get any more New Wave than them. wink

At least not in America.


You might be right. Missing Persons comes close, but I can't think of a more pure U.S. new wave act. Blondie always seemed more punk to me.

nod Definitely Missing Persons and Blondie 4 sure.
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Reply #65 posted 05/14/05 1:16am

IstenSzek

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GangstaFam said:

an argument can be made for and against Tricky's Maxinquaye.


nod

I'm surprised I didn't think of that. Admitting, his later albums
all have shimmerings of absolute brilliance and beauty, but they
never reach a level of cohesiveness and strangeness that his debut
portrayed.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #66 posted 05/14/05 1:20am

GangstaFam

IstenSzek said:

nod

I'm surprised I didn't think of that. Admitting, his later albums
all have shimmerings of absolute brilliance and beauty, but they
never reach a level of cohesiveness and strangeness that his debut
portrayed.

I'd have to say it's probably his best, but I often find myself listing Pre-Millennium Tension as my fave.
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Reply #67 posted 05/14/05 1:28am

IstenSzek

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GangstaFam said:

IstenSzek said:

nod

I'm surprised I didn't think of that. Admitting, his later albums
all have shimmerings of absolute brilliance and beauty, but they
never reach a level of cohesiveness and strangeness that his debut
portrayed.

I'd have to say it's probably his best, but I often find myself listing Pre-Millennium Tension as my fave.



Haha. what is it about PMT that makes it so wonderful? Soon as I hear
"ChristianSands", "Makes Me Wanna Die", "Bad Dream", "Piano", I start
to think that there was never a better record, ever.

smile
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Reply #68 posted 05/14/05 1:34am

GangstaFam

IstenSzek said:

Haha. what is it about PMT that makes it so wonderful? Soon as I hear
"ChristianSands", "Makes Me Wanna Die", "Bad Dream", "Piano", I start
to think that there was never a better record, ever.

smile

It's certainly up there.

What makes it so wonderful is that it was definitely his blue period. Aside from the obvious clues in the artwork, the music just reeks of it. Something like "My Evil Is Strong" couldn't exist in any other time/space than that album. Love it.
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Reply #69 posted 05/14/05 2:32am

HamsterHuey

GangstaFam said:

Anxiety said:



i think 'bare' is far more honest and emotionally rich than 'medusa', right down to the way it was produced, but i also think 'diva' is the full package - there's so much variety and range on that album, yet it manages to remain consistent and focused.

I've had my moments with "Medusa" and "Bare", but "Diva" will always be her crowning achievement.


Kewl, you look further than your own taste. For many artists here their debut album ('cept Little Earthquakes, which is a second album, really, innit?) is something hard to top. It is hard not to include your own faves. To me, Vibrator by TTD is his best, but no one knows it. Most people stopped listening after The Hardline...
Same with D'Angelo, The Strokes, etc. They all fulfill their hype, then find out what hype is about. People like Tori Amos seem to be able to at least go with the flow, others, like Annie Lennox and D'Angelo do not seem to care.

For many their debut album is an accumalation of past demons that need to be exercised, then their second album needs to pack the same intensity into it to better it. Not many people can.

I have to disagree with at least Lenny Kravitz. Let Love Rule was certainly good, but Mama Said was better.
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Reply #70 posted 05/14/05 3:32am

Novabreaker

IstenSzek said:

GangstaFam said:

an argument can be made for and against Tricky's Maxinquaye.

Admitting, his later albums all have shimmerings of absolute brilliance and beauty, but they never reach a level of cohesiveness and strangeness that his debut portrayed.


Are you sure about that? lol

Actually, I think Maxinquaye is his most boring record, but that's just me. A lot of tt sounds just like H&M background music to me.
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Reply #71 posted 05/14/05 3:36am

IstenSzek

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Novabreaker said:

IstenSzek said:


Admitting, his later albums all have shimmerings of absolute brilliance and beauty, but they never reach a level of cohesiveness and strangeness that his debut portrayed.


Are you sure about that? lol

Actually, I think Maxinquaye is his most boring record, but that's just me. A lot of tt sounds just like H&M background music to me.


No man. When it was released, it was certainly a strange record.
I had a lot of trouble cracking it at the time. But once I did,
it became one of my fav records ever. I like the way it seems to
come from a world that is very similar to the one everyone else
sees, but somehow slightly off key and unreal, as if there are
fractures in the fabric of it's making.

nuts
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #72 posted 05/14/05 4:14am

HamsterHuey

IstenSzek said:

When it was released, it was certainly a strange record.
I had a lot of trouble cracking it at the time. But once I did,
it became one of my fav records ever. I like the way it seems to
come from a world that is very similar to the one everyone else
sees, but somehow slightly off key and unreal, as if there are
fractures in the fabric of it's making.


nuts


And yet you had trouble crackin' it?

LoL
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Reply #73 posted 05/14/05 4:47am

tommysoul

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TINDERSTICKS

RED HOUSE PAINTERS
I woke up sunday morning with no way to hold my head that didn't hurt
and the beer I had for breakfast wasn't bad so I had one more for dessert
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Reply #74 posted 05/14/05 5:05am

DigitalDooDoo

- Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes I think Boys For Pele is equally as good
- Lenny Kravitz - Let love rule he bettered this album by far with the Mama Said and Are You Gonna Go My Way? albums
- The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses agreed
- Living colour - Vivid their next one, Times Up is a better album
- Pearl Jam - Ten agreed
- Rage against the machine - Rage against the Machine agreed
- Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left probably true, though Pink Moon is a classic

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[Edited 5/14/05 5:07am]
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Reply #75 posted 05/14/05 5:50am

novamonkey

Jimi Hendrix
Stockholm i mitt hjärta..
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Reply #76 posted 05/14/05 6:23am

Nick715

Mariah Carey.
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Reply #77 posted 05/14/05 7:49am

TheBoostress

lilgish said:

The Pretenders















now beat that.....

You mean album, er, tape, er, CD? I can't think of many brilliant debuts...even Ps. TTD is a good candidate.

My faves by the Pretenders are not even on that debut (besides Brass in Pocket...nice bass). My City Was Gone's bass was fonky!

OK, need to admit I didn't listen to whole album (though someone I knew had it), Rockwell (aka Berry Gordy III or IV or ...)
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Reply #78 posted 05/14/05 7:53am

VoicesCarry

Nick715 said:

Mariah Carey.


Emotions is better.
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Reply #79 posted 05/14/05 8:17am

GangstaFam

HamsterHuey said:

Kewl, you look further than your own taste. For many artists here their debut album ('cept Little Earthquakes, which is a second album, really, innit?) is something hard to top. It is hard not to include your own faves. To me, Vibrator by TTD is his best, but no one knows it. Most people stopped listening after The Hardline...
Same with D'Angelo, The Strokes, etc. They all fulfill their hype, then find out what hype is about. People like Tori Amos seem to be able to at least go with the flow, others, like Annie Lennox and D'Angelo do not seem to care.

For many their debut album is an accumalation of past demons that need to be exercised, then their second album needs to pack the same intensity into it to better it. Not many people can.

I have to disagree with at least Lenny Kravitz. Let Love Rule was certainly good, but Mama Said was better.

Well, Diva is what got me into her and was when I was at the height of my Annie fandom in terms of collecting, following her, etc. But later, I had played that album out and her subsequent releases were more enjoyable to listen to, simply cuz I felt like there was something to get out of them. But I can't deny that Diva is still her best. When I think about it, probably my favorite too.
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Reply #80 posted 05/14/05 8:18am

GangstaFam

IstenSzek said:

No man. When it was released, it was certainly a strange record.
I had a lot of trouble cracking it at the time. But once I did,
it became one of my fav records ever. I like the way it seems to
come from a world that is very similar to the one everyone else
sees, but somehow slightly off key and unreal, as if there are
fractures in the fabric of it's making.

nuts

If "Strugglin'" was the only track on there, it'd STILL be one of the most fucked up things in existence. lol
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Reply #81 posted 05/14/05 11:02am

damosuzuki

tommysoul said:

TINDERSTICKS

RED HOUSE PAINTERS


I'll go along with the tindersticks, though I think that the second album is really just as good as the first and at times I've found myself preferring it to the debut.

Ocean Beach is my favourite RHP lp though, far and away. The first album is very nice, but I basically think of it as the template for the band they would become (if you think of them as a band, that is...)
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Reply #82 posted 05/14/05 12:02pm

MsLegs

kisscamille said:

meltwithu said:



nope mad ... after untitled, there's nothing memorable on voodoo. ttd might have had some decent follow-up cd's...but not better than the first...jmho


Differences of opinion. I find Voodoo so much more sophisticated than Brown Sugar.

hmmm That's a matter of pereference on that one.
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Reply #83 posted 05/14/05 12:03pm

TheRealFiness

novamonkey said:

Jimi Hendrix



whoa whoa whoa...

Are you experienced ( classic debut)
Electric Ladyland ( equally as brilliant)
Axis bold as Love-this is my fave Jimi album ( another brilliant album)

granted to each thier own about Music but u'd have to be either deaf or just plain souless to not recognize the beauty of all 3 albums.
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Reply #84 posted 05/14/05 12:03pm

IstenSzek

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HamsterHuey said:

IstenSzek said:

When it was released, it was certainly a strange record.
I had a lot of trouble cracking it at the time. But once I did,
it became one of my fav records ever. I like the way it seems to
come from a world that is very similar to the one everyone else
sees, but somehow slightly off key and unreal, as if there are
fractures in the fabric of it's making.


nuts


And yet you had trouble crackin' it?

LoL



I have that with some albums biggrin
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #85 posted 05/14/05 12:18pm

sosgemini

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Sinead O'Conner...

i love all her albums but her debut has a certain energy that was never recaptured...
Space for sale...
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Reply #86 posted 05/14/05 12:33pm

theAudience

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TheRealFiness said:

novamonkey said:

Jimi Hendrix



whoa whoa whoa...

Are you experienced ( classic debut)
Electric Ladyland ( equally as brilliant)
Axis bold as Love-this is my fave Jimi album ( another brilliant album)

granted to each thier own about Music but u'd have to be either deaf or just plain souless to not recognize the beauty of all 3 albums.



Thank you TRF. I couldn't respond...



...while I was using my aneurysm headache home repair kit.


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm
"Ya see, we're not interested in what you know...but what you are willing to learn. C'mon y'all."
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Reply #87 posted 05/14/05 12:41pm

TheRealFiness

theAudience said:

TheRealFiness said:




whoa whoa whoa...

Are you experienced ( classic debut)
Electric Ladyland ( equally as brilliant)
Axis bold as Love-this is my fave Jimi album ( another brilliant album)

granted to each thier own about Music but u'd have to be either deaf or just plain souless to not recognize the beauty of all 3 albums.



Thank you TRF. I couldn't respond...



...while I was using my aneurysm headache home repair kit.


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...rmusic.htm





yeah that blew my mind LOL
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Reply #88 posted 05/14/05 12:42pm

MsLegs

JANFAN4L said:

Lauryn Hill's Miseducation

clapping
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Reply #89 posted 05/14/05 12:47pm

novamonkey

TheRealFiness said:

novamonkey said:

Jimi Hendrix



whoa whoa whoa...

Are you experienced ( classic debut)
Electric Ladyland ( equally as brilliant)
Axis bold as Love-this is my fave Jimi album ( another brilliant album)

granted to each thier own about Music but u'd have to be either deaf or just plain souless to not recognize the beauty of all 3 albums.

I love all his other albums.
I thought the question was whether the artist bettered their first album, and in my opinion Jimi Hendrix did not, his first album is one of the best ever.
Stockholm i mitt hjärta..
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