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Thread started 05/09/05 9:17am

Eroticist

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IF U TOOK AWAY 'THRILLER' AND 'PURPLE RAIN', WHO'D HAVE THE BIGGEST CAREER BETWEEN MJ AND PRINCE?

I'd have to easily say Prince. If you took "Thriller" away from MJ...does he get the high powered producers for his next project "Bad"? MJ woulda been solid after "Off The Wall" but I don't think he woulda been anywhere near as huge as he was had 'Thriller' never dropped and blew up.

Prince was already making a strong go of it with the success of "DM", "Controversy" and "1999"..."Purple Rain" gave him access to MORE people but his musical talents were already starting to get some recognition and heat.

Plus, after 'Thriller'...MJ started to slowly lose sight of reality.
Desire, it covers our faces
It happens in curious places
Your body, it covers my tower
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Reply #1 posted 05/09/05 9:18am

Cloudbuster

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Madonna.
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Reply #2 posted 05/09/05 9:19am

thesexofit

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u'd have too many mj threads. Man mods have got to do something about this mad
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Reply #3 posted 05/09/05 9:20am

Cloudbuster

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thesexofit said:

Cum in my eye. smile


smile
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Reply #4 posted 05/09/05 9:22am

thesexofit

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Cloudbuster said:

thesexofit said:

Cum in my eye. smile


smile



Ah yes. That one confused

I know u know that north and south song. "iam a man not a boy". U and chris text it to each other daily.

U'd love linear.
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Reply #5 posted 05/09/05 9:23am

Cloudbuster

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Get back to school, fool. lol
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Reply #6 posted 05/09/05 9:26am

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Cloudbuster said:

Get back to school, fool. lol



I wish. We use to rib the girlies about that song by north and south and shout "whoooooaaaaa" at the end of the line "iam a an not a boy".


I wonder what happened to them? They were s club 7 but before
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Reply #7 posted 05/09/05 9:30am

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thesexofit said:

I wish. We use to rib the girlies about that song by north and south and shout "whoooooaaaaa" at the end of the line "iam a an not a boy".


I wonder what happened to them? They were s club 7 but before


They probably work for McDonalds. smile
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Reply #8 posted 05/09/05 9:32am

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Cloudbuster said:

thesexofit said:

I wish. We use to rib the girlies about that song by north and south and shout "whoooooaaaaa" at the end of the line "iam a an not a boy".


I wonder what happened to them? They were s club 7 but before


They probably work for McDonalds. smile



cloudy that was too obvious. They are all doing degree's in songwritng.
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Reply #9 posted 05/09/05 9:33am

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Sure. lol
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Reply #10 posted 05/09/05 9:33am

Eroticist

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?

Focus, children...FOCUS! LOL!
Desire, it covers our faces
It happens in curious places
Your body, it covers my tower
Ecstasy is ours
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Reply #11 posted 05/09/05 9:35am

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Eroticist said:

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Focus, children...FOCUS! LOL!


Those who favour Prince will say Prince.

Those who favour Michael will say Michael.

I still say Madonna. smile
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Reply #12 posted 05/09/05 9:40am

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Cloudbuster said:

Eroticist said:

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Focus, children...FOCUS! LOL!


Those who favour Prince will say Prince.

Those who favour Michael will say Michael.

I still say Madonna. smile





I say without "please hammer don't hurt 'em" hammer would of been a respectable rapper.
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Reply #13 posted 05/09/05 9:41am

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lol This thread is buggered.
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Reply #14 posted 05/09/05 9:41am

jayaredee

Cloudbuster said:

Eroticist said:

?

Focus, children...FOCUS! LOL!


Those who favour Prince will say Prince.

Those who favour Michael will say Michael.

I still say Madonna. smile
What a beautiful response


I wanna kiss you

kisses
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Reply #15 posted 05/09/05 9:42am

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Don't confuse fame with carrer.
[Edited 5/9/05 9:44am]
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Reply #16 posted 05/09/05 9:44am

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lilgish said:

Don't confuse carrer and fame.


Never did. Now, do you have an answer?
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Reply #17 posted 05/09/05 9:45am

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jayaredee said:

What a beautiful response

I wanna kiss you

kisses


I'd gladly snog you but your org girlfriend would probably tear our throats out. razz
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Reply #18 posted 05/09/05 9:45am

jayaredee

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jayaredee said:

What a beautiful response

I wanna kiss you

kisses


I'd gladly snog you but your org girlfriend would probably tear our throats out. razz


She doesn't have to know, hunky wink
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Reply #19 posted 05/09/05 9:49am

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jayaredee said:

She doesn't have to know, hunky wink


Not a chance. That girl is like a police dog. If there's trouble, she'll find it. lol
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Reply #20 posted 05/09/05 9:49am

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Eroticist said:

lilgish said:

Don't confuse carrer and fame.


Never did. Now, do you have an answer?


Without them, and their major hit albums, there's no crossover of Black music into the mainstream. Both would have been eclipsed in black music by hip-hop. MJ and Prince would be doing double bills with the likes of "the time", Rick James and such.

That's just real.
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Reply #21 posted 05/09/05 9:49am

BoOTyLiCioUs

Michael Jackson
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Reply #22 posted 05/09/05 9:59am

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lilgish said:

Eroticist said:



Never did. Now, do you have an answer?


Without them, and their major hit albums, there's no crossover of Black music into the mainstream. Both would have been eclipsed in black music by hip-hop. MJ and Prince would be doing double bills with the likes of "the time", Rick James and such.

That's just real.

That's not accurate. There would have been others to crossover so to say it woas ONLY MJ and Prince to get a crossover audience isn't correct at all. Cuz in time, White America ALWAYS borrows from Black America, and music has ALWAYS been THE BEST EXAMPLE.
Desire, it covers our faces
It happens in curious places
Your body, it covers my tower
Ecstasy is ours
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Reply #23 posted 05/09/05 10:03am

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SHUT UP ALREADY WITH THIS MJ AND PRINCE CRAP.....MY GOOOOOD PRINCE IS SO MUCH BETTER
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Reply #24 posted 05/09/05 10:06am

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Unfortunately MJ
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Reply #25 posted 05/09/05 10:13am

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Eroticist said:

lilgish said:



Without them, and their major hit albums, there's no crossover of Black music into the mainstream. Both would have been eclipsed in black music by hip-hop. MJ and Prince would be doing double bills with the likes of "the time", Rick James and such.

That's just real.

That's not accurate. There would have been others to crossover so to say it woas ONLY MJ and Prince to get a crossover audience isn't correct at all. Cuz in time, White America ALWAYS borrows from Black America, and music has ALWAYS been THE BEST EXAMPLE.


The crossover of Thriller and later PR was much different then other crossovers in that it blurred the lines of black\white radio and the way blacks were marketed. Black radio and Black specific awards are a thing of the past. 26 million, 14 million, what black artist could sell that many and crossover???? If they didn't crossover they would be relegated to the classic r&b circuit. Thriller and PR changed the face of music. I doubt any other black artist could crossover like that, name one that has done it since.
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Reply #26 posted 05/09/05 10:16am

LightOfArt

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Eroticist said:


That's not accurate. There would have been others to crossover so to say it woas ONLY MJ and Prince to get a crossover audience isn't correct at all. Cuz in time, White America ALWAYS borrows from Black America, and music has ALWAYS been THE BEST EXAMPLE.


The crossover of Thriller and later PR was much different then other crossovers in that it blurred the lines of black\white radio and the way blacks were marketed. Black radio and Black specific awards are a thing of the past. 26 million, 14 million, what black artist could sell that many and crossover???? If they didn't crossover they would be relegated to the classic r&b circuit. Thriller and PR changed the face of music. I doubt any other black artist could crossover like that, name one that has done it since.


hmmm Bob Marley is as big of an international icon. But when did he crossover? after his death?
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Reply #27 posted 05/09/05 10:18am

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Well we'd still have the superior Off The Wall and 1999 albums now, wouldn't we?

I reckon it wouldn't be much different.
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Reply #28 posted 05/09/05 10:21am

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mancabdriver said:

Unfortunately MJ


Explain.
Desire, it covers our faces
It happens in curious places
Your body, it covers my tower
Ecstasy is ours
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Reply #29 posted 05/09/05 10:22am

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lilgish said:

Eroticist said:


That's not accurate. There would have been others to crossover so to say it woas ONLY MJ and Prince to get a crossover audience isn't correct at all. Cuz in time, White America ALWAYS borrows from Black America, and music has ALWAYS been THE BEST EXAMPLE.


The crossover of Thriller and later PR was much different then other crossovers in that it blurred the lines of black\white radio and the way blacks were marketed. Black radio and Black specific awards are a thing of the past. 26 million, 14 million, what black artist could sell that many and crossover???? If they didn't crossover they would be relegated to the classic r&b circuit. Thriller and PR changed the face of music. I doubt any other black artist could crossover like that, name one that has done it since.


Ok, I can slightly feel you on that one. Good shit. Thanx.
Desire, it covers our faces
It happens in curious places
Your body, it covers my tower
Ecstasy is ours
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