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Is the sound of LIVE instruments outdated? In this age of computer programmed music and beat machines, do you think that the sound of live instruments(a band) is considered outdated by the masses? | |
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LoveAlive said: In this age of computer programmed music and beat machines, do you think that the sound of live instruments(a band) is considered outdated by the masses?
Well, I remember going to a bar after the prince concert and one criticism from another person at the bar was that "Prince had too many instruments".  | |
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Rhondab said: LoveAlive said: In this age of computer programmed music and beat machines, do you think that the sound of live instruments(a band) is considered outdated by the masses?
Well, I remember going to a bar after the prince concert and one criticism from another person at the bar was that "Prince had too many instruments". That doesn't surprise me...Hell thinking is outdated for the masses.  | |
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DorothyParkerWasCool said: Rhondab said: Well, I remember going to a bar after the prince concert and one criticism from another person at the bar was that "Prince had too many instruments". That doesn't surprise me...Hell thinking is outdated for the masses. | |
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Rhondab said: LoveAlive said: In this age of computer programmed music and beat machines, do you think that the sound of live instruments(a band) is considered outdated by the masses?
Well, I remember going to a bar after the prince concert and one criticism from another person at the bar was that "Prince had too many instruments". I personally think it's the right time to go "live". It's refreshing. You can't worry about the masses. They always catch on later. Like they don't get in when it's on the runways in Milan. But a year or so later when it's in K-Mart, it's suddenly hot. Of course you're onto something different then...but that's the way it is with marketing to the masses. It's so much better to do your thing. The time to worry is when the masses get it right away. That must be a scary place to be. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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It's all ebb and flow. Remember when they made a huge fuss when Bob Dylan first plugged in his electric guitar? They said that he sold out real musicians then. Then the Beatles and Beach Boys experimented with loops, distortion and weird sounds, and then they said that would put bandmembers in the poorhouse. Then Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton showed what they could do with guitars and suddenly, everyone wanted to pick up a guitar. Afterward, everyone had huge bands, either with multiple guitars like Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath, or the funk bands like Earth, Wind and Fire, Kool and the Gang, and KC and the Sunshine Band. I think the mid-1970's was the salad days of live instrumentation.
Then came disco, punk and new wave. The early disco was actually more R&B and funk based, but when Giorgio Moroder introduced synthesizers and electronic drum beats to the groove, it took away a lot of the live instrumentation and made it cheaper to produce danceable music. The whole punk astethic was about just making a lot of noise and not using multiple instrumentation, and the new wave bands experimented with synthesizers to produce sounds that used to take band or orchestral arrangements to reproduce. It became real prevalent in R&B by the mid-1980's, as many of the previous funk bands eliminated their horn and rhythm sections for synth keyboards and 808 drum machines. The grunge and alternative movement, while nothing like the rock of the early 70's, was about going back to basics, so live instrumentation was important, albeit on a smaller scale. However, hip-hop and techno was all about sampling, so it got to a point where one didn't even need a band to produce records; it could all be done on computer. Right now, we're at a low point for live instrumentation, but I have a feeling that it will come back, mostly because people can connect to the sound of live instruments. Electronic beats and samples, while more lifelike than ever, still leave many people with a cold feeling. I think people would be more willing to overlook someone messing up a guitar lick by playing the wrong chord or striking the wrong key on the piano or missing a beat on the drums then they would some singer who lip-synchs over a skipped backing vocal. ("Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]")  | |
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Live instruments have been outdated by the masses for many years. So has uptempo music. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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728huey said: It's all ebb and flow. Remember when they made a huge fuss when Bob Dylan first plugged in his electric guitar? They said that he sold out real musicians then. Then the Beatles and Beach Boys experimented with loops, distortion and weird sounds, and then they said that would put bandmembers in the poorhouse. Then Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton showed what they could do with guitars and suddenly, everyone wanted to pick up a guitar. Afterward, everyone had huge bands, either with multiple guitars like Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath, or the funk bands like Earth, Wind and Fire, Kool and the Gang, and KC and the Sunshine Band. I think the mid-1970's was the salad days of live instrumentation.
Then came disco, punk and new wave. The early disco was actually more R&B and funk based, but when Giorgio Moroder introduced synthesizers and electronic drum beats to the groove, it took away a lot of the live instrumentation and made it cheaper to produce danceable music. The whole punk astethic was about just making a lot of noise and not using multiple instrumentation, and the new wave bands experimented with synthesizers to produce sounds that used to take band or orchestral arrangements to reproduce. It became real prevalent in R&B by the mid-1980's, as many of the previous funk bands eliminated their horn and rhythm sections for synth keyboards and 808 drum machines. The grunge and alternative movement, while nothing like the rock of the early 70's, was about going back to basics, so live instrumentation was important, albeit on a smaller scale. However, hip-hop and techno was all about sampling, so it got to a point where one didn't even need a band to produce records; it could all be done on computer. Right now, we're at a low point for live instrumentation, but I have a feeling that it will come back, mostly because people can connect to the sound of live instruments. Electronic beats and samples, while more lifelike than ever, still leave many people with a cold feeling. I think people would be more willing to overlook someone messing up a guitar lick by playing the wrong chord or striking the wrong key on the piano or missing a beat on the drums then they would some singer who lip-synchs over a skipped backing vocal. ("Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]") Well said....  | |
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728huey said: It's all ebb and flow. Remember when they made a huge fuss when Bob Dylan first plugged in his electric guitar? They said that he sold out real musicians then. Then the Beatles and Beach Boys experimented with loops, distortion and weird sounds, and then they said that would put bandmembers in the poorhouse. Then Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton showed what they could do with guitars and suddenly, everyone wanted to pick up a guitar. Afterward, everyone had huge bands, either with multiple guitars like Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath, or the funk bands like Earth, Wind and Fire, Kool and the Gang, and KC and the Sunshine Band. I think the mid-1970's was the salad days of live instrumentation.
Then came disco, punk and new wave. The early disco was actually more R&B and funk based, but when Giorgio Moroder introduced synthesizers and electronic drum beats to the groove, it took away a lot of the live instrumentation and made it cheaper to produce danceable music. The whole punk astethic was about just making a lot of noise and not using multiple instrumentation, and the new wave bands experimented with synthesizers to produce sounds that used to take band or orchestral arrangements to reproduce. It became real prevalent in R&B by the mid-1980's, as many of the previous funk bands eliminated their horn and rhythm sections for synth keyboards and 808 drum machines. The grunge and alternative movement, while nothing like the rock of the early 70's, was about going back to basics, so live instrumentation was important, albeit on a smaller scale. However, hip-hop and techno was all about sampling, so it got to a point where one didn't even need a band to produce records; it could all be done on computer. Right now, we're at a low point for live instrumentation, but I have a feeling that it will come back, mostly because people can connect to the sound of live instruments. Electronic beats and samples, while more lifelike than ever, still leave many people with a cold feeling. I think people would be more willing to overlook someone messing up a guitar lick by playing the wrong chord or striking the wrong key on the piano or missing a beat on the drums then they would some singer who lip-synchs over a skipped backing vocal. ("Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]Girl you know its..[skip]") Co-siggity Its an ongoing cycle Popular music is riddled with electronic instruments and digi-pop beats which was revolutionary in the 70's and 80's but started getting tired during the 90's. The thirst for live instrumentation has been increasing and now music such as Alternative Rock and grudge are gaining mass appeal because they have more live instrumentation. Its an ongoing struggle Digital Versus Analogue or Live Instruments Pick and choose your side but both tools can be masterful depending on your vision... When it comes to actual production its preferred you use digital to gain mass appeal but their are many who choose to use analogue and still wow people Case and point D'angelo... Voodoo was an album with a major portion of analogue on it! It's a matter of taste... But the X-factor is the dullness of digital music... now don't get me wrong i love digital music, but these engineers are not churning out hits that groups like Kraftwerk use too... no! Digital music is a CHEAP way to churn out music all you need is a drum machine and a midi keyboard and you have your album you can churn out 2 albums in one year. is it really a good idea? No... but you'll surely make a hell of alot more money that way! But this is pop music, which in my opinion sucks! Generally the people don't know what they want to hear... they are told what to listen to by the masses of radio stations and peers which virtually programs them! Sure its a matter of taste but as a person ages statistics show that they yearn at times for live instrumentation... because an improvisational solo on a guitar can't be programmed. Live instrumentation is varied Digital is dull cause the majority consist of a 4 bar loop, riddled with samples which can sound cool for a day but by the next week its old. Live instrumentation can last generations its based on raw expression. Generally what's going to happen is those who mix digital with live instrumentation are going to be deemed geniuses... when basically they are mirroring what pioneers like Prince and a handful of others have done... But who's going to know? Urban youths will forget Prince just like they're forgetting about Miles Davis and Duke Elington Its a cycle... Digital music is for flash but live instruments always win because live instruments can make music without the use of a computer and who want's to depend on a computer? i'd take my guitar any day | |
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vainandy said: Live instruments have been outdated by the masses for many years. So has uptempo music.
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An open mind realizes that these things go in cycles. Live instruments will always be the hub that many artists come back to and learn from regardless of technological innovations. | |
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CD's are one thing, but most hip hop artists have some live musicians behind them when they play concerts nowadays. Check this song out at:
http://www.soundclick.com...tmusic.htm | |
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Live instruments have been here since...erm..well since music began, i guess! they are still here today. How many modern songs, which utilise the latest technology, programs etc.. sound dated a few years later? nearly all.
I don't think its what you use to record or perform but more a case of how you utilise your tool of choice. | |
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Rhondab said: LoveAlive said: In this age of computer programmed music and beat machines, do you think that the sound of live instruments(a band) is considered outdated by the masses?
Well, I remember going to a bar after the prince concert and one criticism from another person at the bar was that "Prince had too many instruments".  I can't believe someone actually said that!!!     I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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NO! Think for yourself, trying to appeal to fad-based commercial radio & video outlets, that's what's outdated! If you wanna get higher, ya gotta get DEEP! | |
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Hell nah! Keep your eyes open, you've be forwarned! SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him." http://ccoshea19.googlepa...ssanctuary http://ccoshea19.googlepages.com | |
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blackguitaristz said: Hell nah! Keep your eyes open, you've be forwarned! Now, what are you up to? You've got something up your sleeve. You wouldn't be trying to plug an upcoming release by a certain black guitarist would you? Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Now, what are you up to? You've got something up your sleeve. You wouldn't be trying to plug an upcoming release by a certain black guitarist would you? Aaah, u were always one of the smartest ones on here! SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him." http://ccoshea19.googlepa...ssanctuary http://ccoshea19.googlepages.com | |
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blackguitaristz said: vainandy said: Now, what are you up to? You've got something up your sleeve. You wouldn't be trying to plug an upcoming release by a certain black guitarist would you? Aaah, u were always one of the smartest ones on here! Just be sure and let us know the name of it and when it drops so we can pick it up.Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Just be sure and let us know the name of it and when it drops so we can pick it up.You'll know before that. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
nammie "What BGZ says I believe. I have the biggest crush on him." http://ccoshea19.googlepa...ssanctuary http://ccoshea19.googlepages.com | |
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blackguitaristz said: vainandy said: Just be sure and let us know the name of it and when it drops so we can pick it up.You'll know before that. OK now, you Mslegs AKA Hotlegs will hold you to that BG Baby! | |
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