What ya'll know abou the Biz? I love old skool hip hop and I remember some of his jams like "nobody beats the biz" and of course the classic "just a friend". Does anyone own his cd's? Which one could you recommend? Has anyone heard his latest cd?

...and while we're on the subject what do you guys think of the following artist?

Kurtis Blow
Kool Moe Dee
Slick Rick
Doug E. Fresh
Kid N' Play
The Fat Boys
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Show ya love for old skool!

dancerella said:

I dig all of the following Old School Artist that you have just mentioned b/c they were very much apart of my teens. I used to be a rapper back in the day and these were some of the cats that were at the top of the game.
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I'm not very familar with the others (I'm familar with them but not a lot of their stuff) but always loved Biz Markie. I remeber watching "Yo! MTV Raps" and always looking forward to his videos on there (mostly "Just A Friend"). I wanted to buy his new one when it came out (was that like a year and a half ago?) but it was expensive and I said I would buy it later. I read one really brutal review on it but I doubt any of his music was that highly regarded by critics. I'd stil like to get it evantually.

my question is what do U know about em... im an original head from the Boogie down BX and saw the birth of Hip hop in 1974 when Herc used to rip up 2 45's

TheRealFiness said:

TheRealFiness said:

Wow, so you're really old skool! I can't say I know much about Kool herc (funny we're talking about him now cuz I was just watching Beat Street last night and he was in it) but I really love Grandmaster Melle Mel! I think he is the best rapper ever! He doesn't get enough credit.

How would you compare these new rappers compared to someone like Melle Mel?

Hotlegs said:

Good to see another lover of old skool hip hop on the board! I absolutely love gandmaster flash and the furious 5 and I think melle Mel is the greatest rapper hands down! Do you still listen to any of these artists? I do and people think i'm crazy.

VinnyM27 said:

i'm very curious and would like to check out the latest one which i think was released last year. maybe i'll listen for some samples on the net. Biz rocks. did you see him on celebrity fat club? i was surprised to see how well disciplined he was on losing weight. he seems like a cool guy.

I love the Biz!

dancerella said:

count me in as well I own tons of old school hip hop albums, even though those were not that easy to get in Europe back in the days. and yes, Melle Mel is great, but greatest of all time? dunno ...personally I'd still put Chuck D and Rakim over him

Dancelot said:

Chuck D and Rakim are no joke, (no pun intended, lol) but come one grandmaster melle mel is the man. rrrrraaaahh!

What do people think of you listening to these artists today? The girl who does my hair thinks it's hilarious that I listen to old skool. She thinks it just sounds too outdated. Some of it does but I stil love it!

CinisterCee said:

Nobody beats the Biz...

VinnyM27 said:

do you own any of his cd's?

dancerella said:

dancerella I would recommend his first 2 albums called:
-Goin' Off (1988)
-The Biz Never Sleeps (1989)

They are available together on a double disc re-issued on Landspeed Records.

CinisterCee said:

dancerella said:

I still rock alot of my Ol School Hip Hop jams on my Launchcast player. What's so funny is alot those same beats are sampled over and over in songs now.

CinisterCee said:

Cool, i'm gonna try and get a copy of "goin off" today along with Kurtis blow! I can't wait.


Old skool rulz!

dancerella said:

You won't be disappointed.

If anybody remembers the song "This Is Something for the Radio" from the 'Goin' Off' album, it had the same bassline as the song in Under The Cherry Moon when Mary was playing the drums at her b-day party.

Was this a Prince song Marley sampled or did someone else write it?
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Also, I love Biz's stuff, especially Vapors, Just Rhymin' With the Biz and Make the Music..., but he loses a little credibility because Big Daddy Kane wrote almost all of his rhymes early on.

doeineffect said:

Even if Big Daddy Kane wrote most of his material, it's all good. How can anyone knock the Biz?

TheRealFiness said:

Herc. A great DJ.

The Biz Never Sleeps was one of my favorites. Spring Again, A Thing Named Kim, The Dragon... I wore that tape out but still have the cd somewhere around here.

I'll admit I can't listen to Kurtis Blow or Kid'N Play (I can watch their cheesy movies though). I'll always like Kool Moe, Slick Rick, and Dougie Fresh (with Slick Rick). The Fat Boys pre- Wipeout were cool. UTFO, my namesakes, and Run DMC of course were some of my favorites. I think of them as old school but Kurtis Blow, Grandmaster _____ (fill in the blank with anybody by that name), Sugar Hill Gang and them I consider pre-historic. Some of them have some good songs but their rap styles are so old it's terrible. Kid'N Play got by on their little dancing gimmicks and the songs were fun but the raps weren't that solid.

doeineffect said:

It's not just the bassline (actually from "New Position"), but Mary's actual drumming from that scene that is sampled!

whodknee said:

Kid n' play movies are so funny. They're classic! You don't think Melle Mel had skills? Oh man, I love his voice. Maybe his skills weren't all that but I just love his voice. By the way, I was watching beat street last night and in thelast scene where they have a show in honor or "ramon" Melle Mel came out and my husband noticed how much he looked like Andre3000. Facially and style wise and it's so true. I was thinking Andre was an original but Melle Mel had that freaky style first! I love Melle Mel!

dancerella said:

Kool Herc
Scott La Rock
Grand Master Flash
Jam Master Jay

back in tha' day
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mrwigglesdaw1rm said:

You got to show love for the DJ's. Where would Hip Hop/Rap be w/out the DJ? Also, you need to add to your list Howie T. and Jazzy Jeff.

I met Biz at a party sometime back in 1998. He was D.J-ing and moving the crowd real well (although he didn't perform). He was real cool and down to earth and unlike the "Biz" image everyone knows. He talked a lot about the ups,downs, and pitfalls of the music industry. Nice guy...(but he was in dire need of some Speed Stick deodorant-lol).

SPYZFAN1 said:

That's what I've heard about him also. So people told me that he is now living in the Maryland area.

dancerella said:

Only these two


but I would love to get more...I'll look into that combo of his first two albums Cinster recommended.