I saw vh1's awesomely bad no 1's and they diss marky marks "good vibrations" because of the positive lyrics. Iam sick of these fuckers saying hiphop has to be serious. Sure u hate "good vibrations" but dont hate it because it's positive.

So in order to be legit, u gotta give some heavy handed tale of drugs or whatever. I love some "real" hiphop, but those critics bug me. They just dissed Marks lyrics which are fine. Whats wrong with the lyrics. Its a good dance song.

rap has either got to be sexy or "real". Fuck that.
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I love "Good Vibrations" because it's a jam. They don't like rap songs like that because their tired asses are jealous because they can't rap that fast. That's why they keep their own shit midtempo, so they can "talk" and not get tongue twisted.

vainandy said:

kickinitAtthetopBecausei'm2legit2quit,sang!

thesexofit said:

I disagree, The Roots are positive and critically acclaimed as is Common, Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Tribe Called Quest, ect. I think there is a line between positive and corny. That song was fun for the time but come on it was corny.

when it came out they were digging that shit, they always hype the pretty white boys then turn on them when the black audience isn't feeling it...


can we please turn on Em already.
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thank you soulchild82

Assuming you're serious, and I doubt you are . . .

"Good Vibrations" is a simple, bubblegum song that neither adds nor subtracts from hip-hop.

"Rebel Without A Pause," "I Used To Love H.E.R," or "Get By" are positive, substantive songs that contribute to hip-hop's legacy as a revolutionary form of music.

It's like saying "Monster Mash" is a positive song because it doesn't discuss sex and violence despite the fact it adds little but novelty to pop music.

namepeace said:

it was a graveyard smahhsh

namepeace said:

Nah Iam serious. Good to here a rap song that tries not to be tough.

thesexofit said:

Well, in today's studio gangsta, pseudo-minstrel hip-hop era, I can't blame you.

Good to hear a song period, especially a rap song, that is about "nothing" except maybe a party. A lot of the early rap was mainly about a party and hell, that's what music's for anyway, to get your mind off your problems. If I want a long drawn out story, I'll watch a soap opera.

namepeace said:

The video didn't help though. Girls loved that video.

"its such a good vibration"..... Funny how new kid on the block member and brother of marky mark, donnie wahlberg, really hooked him up with that track. His production would hit fucking hard on a dancefloor.

thesexofit said:

It still gets played at some clubs, so it has some appeal. To me, it's a warmed-over hip-house beat, common in the early 90's (as you well know, LOL)!

namepeace said:

Hiphouse . Yeah the beat is rather housey. Some of marky marks stuff was public enemy lite in production. Over in uk, it didn't do aswell. I think it might of made top 20.

vainandy said:

Yeah thats how I feel about music, except Iam a senitive sucker so I hear mushy shit too (as people will know on here)

I would love them to play "good vibrations" at a club in the UK. I might have to go to the gay club to hear it though, but I dont care.

uptempo and rap just spell cheese for most people. As does uptempo anything so it seems. Me and u vain believe it or not have that trait in common. We dont like mellowed out thug rnb shit that started to grab hold in the mid 90's. Other then that we are different

Soulchild82 said:

There is a difference between positive and corny. Shoot even Mark Wahlberg distances from that.

Universaluv said:

Corny does not = bad. It is great fun to work up a sweat too.

thesexofit said:

Hmmph, I guess that explains your avatar.

Universaluv said:

Just show me a dancefloor and Iam doing the running man and typewriter. BUT it's got to be funky. Theres the difference between me and kylie loving gay men.


But those people on those vh1 lists just tick me off so much. The awesomely bad no1 lists was FULL of songs I liked.

most reasons for hating them were "crappy video" or "lyrics are too wimpy" or whatever.

they should make a list of awesomely overated songs and put in naff reasons for nirvana like "depressing" and "lyrics are dull". Criticism on vh1 just blows.