Ok, Ok....I'm really liking this chick. From the first video, to this current one for "Oh!" I think the girl has improved.

I changed the way I was thinking about her and other new artist when I recently saw "what have you done for me lately" by Janet. Gawd....Janet wasn't the best dancer at that time BUT by the third video for Control album, she was looking good and dancing better. It seems the same with Ciara. I'm not saying she's some musically talented newbie but she is at least enjoyable.

I agree. I'm liking her album now.

By the way, is she like the only "crunk'n'b" singer or what?

CinisterCee said:

I also really like Ciara. I think she's talented in the same ways Janet is.

I think there's another Crunk n' B artist called Brooke Valentine. I think she's the one with that terrible song "girlfight". I saw the video once and I couldn't believe how bad it was. God bless Ciara.

Ciara's "Goodies" LP has some undeniable jams on it. I can't front. I was digging "Oh*!" wayyy back in October of last year. "Hotline" is another footstomper. I'll give it up to Jazzy Pha because he didn't front with the production on this one. Plus, Ciara's dance moves are ILL. She's starting to look sexier every video. Nice Janet abs*!

dancerella said:

I wouldn't call Brooke Valentine a "Crunk 'n' B" artist. Her debut single was produced by Lil Jon, but her album, Chain Letter is a Subliminal recording. She's based out of Houston. Her album is bumpin' and it has some killer cuts on it. Look past "Girlfight" and listen to the track "Pass Us By" — that is one of the hottest f**king songs of the year. If that's not made into a single, someone's doing her a serious disservice.

Ciara. Yuck. Eye candy at best; Aaliyah knockoff at worst. Uninspired lyrics. Weak melodies. Weak dancing. This Crunk mess has to go. VERY SOON.

JANFAN4L said:

i'll take your word for it about brooke but do you like the song "girl fight"? i think it's horrid.

dancerella said:

Nope... and Big Boi's rap is weak on it. I steer clear of most Lil Jon productions anyway, there's a few exceptions —- this one sho' ain't the case.

I'm starting to feel her too. When "Goodies" first came out last summer, i was just like "eh" towards it. But now with "Oh" and "1,2 Step" i'm starting to dig this chick.

GlamorousSlammer said:

That's like me. I think it's because "Goodies" was a Lil Jon beat, but the rest isn't.

CinisterCee said:

The hottest thing Lil Jon produced last year, IMO, was "Freek-a-Leek." That beat was dirrty and I loved the quad in it.

Edit: But if you want to get into some really hot Lil Jon productions (back when he was just some dude making bass records out of Atlanta), you should check out the Rhythm & Quad 166, Vol. 1 CD. It's an Atlanta bass/quad compilation. Lil Jon's production is featured heavily throughout on some ill tracks by Emperor Searcy and A-Town Players. He's using some obscure loops and the whole album is banged out. The CD's best known for the breakout hit "(Shorty) Swing My Way" by KP & Envyi.

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JANFAN4L said:

I remember that song! I really liked it. I just might go pick that up.

JANFAN4L said:

Thanks for the recommendation. Wasn't "Goodies" an answer record to "Freek-a-Leek"?

CinisterCee said:

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I think Lil Jon got lazy and gave Ciara, Petey Pablo and Usher the same beat.

The moves in "goodies" were poor.

Modern pop video choreography sucks these days usually. "1,2 step", as I have said before has naff moves.

Choreography is too quick. It does not impress me how fast u can dance. Like that movie "u got served" and "honey".

JANFAN4L said:

i like brooke's cd. it's better than i thought it would be, same with ciara's.

doeineffect said:

Prett-E much. There's not a lot you can do with the "crunk" sound.

JANFAN4L said:

It'll probably come and go like Horrorcore and Hammertime, but mightas well enjoy the moment.

CinisterCee said:

Enjoy it while you can, Cinnie. Cause just like Swatches and Yugos, Crunk's not gon' last.

crunk beats the pharrel type shit I hear in clubs everywhere.

Pharrel is still around and heard everywhere His shit has not advanced for years. at least Teddy's sound did (alright I will stop comparing the 2)

Damn. And I JUST got my Yugo out the shop.

I'm Not A Big Fan of modern R&b or Rap/Hip Hop, but I'm starting to like Ciara as well. Ever since isaw the video for "1,2 Step" i was like Ciara really isn't a mediocre tramp at all. however she is kinda manly , and super tall i wonder if those rumors about her being a man is true.....

Eroticist said: