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Reply #120 posted 05/06/05 1:16am

dag

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another picture.
Mike looked great. I love the rainbow suit!!

I like it more than yesterday´s suit

although it´s nice as well. biggrin wink



I hope Katherine wasn't there today.


lol
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #121 posted 05/06/05 5:08am

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Next up for the defense was 23-year-old Brett Barnes, who also denied Jackson ever molested him.

"Has Mr. Jackson ever touched you in a sexual way?" Mesereau asked him.

"No," Barnes said. "I wouldn't stand for it."

When asked, Barnes said he was mad that prosecutors had mentioned allegations he was molested.

"I'm very mad about that," Barnes said. "They're pulling my name through the dirt, and I'm really, really not happy about it."

Barnes, who left his job as a roulette dealer in Brisbane, Australia, to testify in this case, said he slept with Jackson dozens of times from age 9 to 19, both at Neverland and in hotel rooms around the world.

He stayed at Neverland Wednesday night, he said, but not in Jackson's bed.

"Why don't you still sleep with Michael Jackson?" Zonen asked.

"He's got kids now," Barnes replied.
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Reply #122 posted 05/06/05 6:39am

Novabreaker

Whoah, gay porn.
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Reply #123 posted 05/06/05 6:40am

Novabreaker

I'm actually quite surprised they didn't confiscate any "furry" material from Neverland. I could have sworn Michael was one!
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Reply #124 posted 05/06/05 8:19am

Luv4oneanotha

Wow...

Brett Barnes turned out to be a pretty good looking guy...
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Reply #125 posted 05/06/05 10:00am

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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #126 posted 05/06/05 10:56am

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"Why don't you still sleep with Michael Jackson?" Zonen asked.

"He's got kids now," Barnes replied.

well, that and mr. barnes is a grown-assed man. har!
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Reply #127 posted 05/06/05 11:22am

Luv4oneanotha

MJ seriously needs to change his shade of lipstick...
he's seriously lookin like the joker in that picture
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Reply #128 posted 05/06/05 4:31pm

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the gay book mike had

A Sexual Study of Man, Illustrated with Photographs,

This is an early gay publication that masquerades as a scientific study of the sexuality of man, but is really erotic fiction. More photo and illustration than science by far. A large folio sized book of 300 pages with at lest half being illustrations or pictorial in some instances.
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Reply #129 posted 05/06/05 4:51pm

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Wade Robson's sister


her and barnes should hook up.
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Reply #130 posted 05/06/05 6:01pm

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5/6/05

By DAWN HOBBS
SANTA BARBARA NEWS-PRESS STAFF WRITER

Two young men took the stand for Michael Jackson's defense on Thursday, repeatedly insisting that the entertainer never molested or inappropriately touched them when they were children.

Wade Robson and Brett Barnes, both in their early 20s, told jurors that they often shared a bed with the entertainer at his Neverland Valley Ranch and at several hotels, but maintained there was absolutely nothing sexual about the experience.

"I think it's ridiculous," Mr. Robson said when lead defense lawyer Thomas Mesereau asked what he thought about prosecution assertions that Mr. Jackson touched him inappropriately.

To the same question Mr. Barnes replied, "Absolutely not -- and I can tell you that if he had, I wouldn't be here right now.

"It's not a thing I would stand for."

Mr. Mesereau called the men as his first defense witnesses in an attempt to challenge the prosecution's claim that Mr. Jackson has a history of molesting adolescent boys.

Earlier on Thursday, Superior Court Judge Rodney Melville heard arguments from both sides regarding a defense motion that Mr. Jackson be acquitted on all charges. The defense maintained that Santa Barbara County District Attorney Tom Sneddon did not prove his case.

The judge denied the motion and the defense case commenced.

Mr. Robson, 22, and Mr. Barnes, 23, met the entertainer when they were 5 years old. They began sharing his bed a couple of years later during visits to Neverland. Mr. Robson said the last time he did so was when he was about 14. Mr. Barnes said the last time was when he was 19 years old.

Prosecutor Ron Zonen aggressively cross-examined Mr. Robson while reminding jurors that investigators had seized adult material from Mr. Jackson's home.

The prosecutor instructed Mr. Robson to page through the seized books, one containing photographs of naked boys and another depicting homosexual erotica, and then told the young man to describe what he saw.

Mr. Robson, who winked and smiled at Mr. Jackson when he took the stand, said the books would not make him uncomfortable about sleeping with the entertainer.

When Mr. Zonen asked whether it would concern him if his own child were to sleep in the same bed with a man who possessed these materials, Mr. Robson said: "If it was a man I didn't know, then maybe. But not Michael."

Some jurors appeared troubled as Mr. Robson was instructed to look through adult magazines authorities had seized from the ranch.

During a new round of questioning, Mr. Mesereau asked, "Did any of the material the prosecutor for the government just showed you depict any child pornography?"

"No," Mr. Robson answered.

"Did Mr. Jackson ever show you any sexually explicit material?" Mr. Mesereau asked.

"No," Mr. Robson said.

After Mr. Robson repeatedly insisted that Mr. Jackson never touched him sexually, Mr. Zonen asserted, "What you're really telling us is that nothing ever happened when you were awake, right?"

Mr. Robson shot back, "No. I think something like that would wake me up."

Mr. Zonen asked whether he had crawled into the bed of any other man, and Mr. Robson said he had done so with his father.

When Mr. Zonen asked why he slept with the pop star, Mr. Robson said, "It's the same way with any child, when you have a new friend, a best new friend, you want to sleep with them."

During the prosecution's case, a former Neverland maid testified that she saw Mr. Jackson shower with Mr. Robson and another said she saw the entertainer grab Mr. Barnes' rear end and kiss him.

Prosecutors used these witnesses in an attempt to bolster the accuser's testimony. The now-15-year-old claims Mr. Jackson molested him in his Neverland bed during the spring of 2003.

Mr. Jackson has pleaded not guilty to child molestation, administering alcohol to a minor to commit a felony, and conspiracy.

Under questioning by Mr. Mesereau, Mr. Robson said he never showered with the entertainer, and Mr. Barnes testified that Mr. Jackson never touched his rear end. Both acknowledged that the entertainer kissed them on the head or on the cheek, but that they saw nothing inappropriate about it.

The fierce rounds of direct and redirect questioning ended when Mr. Mesereau asked, "Did anything the prosecutor for the government show you today change your opinion of Mr. Jackson?"

"No," Mr. Robson answered, nodding at Mr. Jackson as he stepped down from the witness box. Jurors turned their heads to follow him as he strode out of the courtroom.

The mothers of the two men, who were aware their boys were sleeping with Mr. Jackson, and their sisters, who also shared the entertainer's bed, are expected to be the next witnesses.

"Home Alone" star Macaulay Culkin, contradicting the statements of a former Neverland chef who testified for the prosecution, is expected to testify next week that the entertainer never molested him when he was a child.

Dawn Hobbs is also a news analyst for NBC and MSNBC. You may e-mail her at dhobbs@newspress.com.
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Reply #131 posted 05/06/05 6:02pm

hellomoto

By TIM MOLLOY, Associated Press Writer

SANTA MARIA, Calif. - A woman whose son repeatedly slept in Michael Jackson's bed at his Neverland ranch testified Friday in the singer's molestation trial that she thought of the estate as "the happiest place on Earth" and she never saw anything inappropriate happen there.

"When you are at Neverland you forget all your problems," said Joy Robson, whose son, Wade, testified Thursday that Jackson never molested him and directly contradicted a prosecution witness' account that he and Jackson once showered together.

Jackson defense attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr. asked what the Robson family did on visits to Neverland. The witness said they watched movies and, in particular, she liked the chimpanzees in Jackson's zoo.

The Robsons were among witnesses that Jackson's defense is calling to counter a part of the prosecution case that was intended to show that Jackson has a history of inappropriate behavior with boys.

On cross-examination, District Attorney Tom Sneddon questioned the mother about whether she thought Jackson would help her son, who is now a dancer and film director, succeed in show business.

"Did you in your mind think that by having a connection and a friendship with Mr. Jackson that that could help promote your son's career?" Sneddon asked.

"You're trying to make me say that that was the basis for our friendship and that's not true," she said.

Prosecutors objected to the answer as non-responsive and Judge Rodney S. Melville sustained the objection.
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Reply #132 posted 05/06/05 6:02pm

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By The Associated Press

SANTA MARIA - Two mothers testified in Michael Jackson's trial Friday that they trusted Jackson to sleep with their sons and were convinced that no molestation ever occurred.

One of the witnesses also bitterly accused the mother of a boy who made allegations against Jackson in 1993 of being "a gold-digger."

Joy Robson, whose son, Wade, testified earlier in the pop star's molestation trial, offered a ringing endorsement of Jackson's trustworthiness.

"I've known Michael for a long time. I've spent many hours talking to him about everything. I feel like he's a member of my family. I trust him. I trust him with my children," she said under questioning by Jackson attorney Thomas Mesereau Jr.

"He's a very special person," she added. "He's not the boy next door. He's Michael Jackson. He's very unique. He has a very pure personality. To know him is to love him and to trust him."

Wade Robson testified Thursday that he was never molested by Jackson and he directly denied a prosecution witness' account that as a boy he once showered with Jackson.

Also praising Jackson was Marie Elizabeth Barnes, whose son, Brett Barnes, also testified earlier in Jackson's defense that nothing improper happened when he shared Jackson's bed.

"I trusted him implicitly," she said of Jackson. "He's a very nice person. You just know when you can trust someone."

Jackson is accused of molesting a 13-year-old boy in 2003, giving him wine and conspiring to hold the boy and his family captive to get them to rebut a documentary in which the boy appeared with Jackson, who said he let children sleep in his bed but it was non-sexual.

Joy Robson was strongly attacked on cross-examination by District Attorney Tom Sneddon, who suggested she ingratiated herself and her son with Jackson because she thought he could help the boy get into show business.

"Did you in your mind think that by having a connection and a friendship with Mr. Jackson that that could help promote your son's career?" Sneddon asked.

"You're trying to make me say that that was the basis for our friendship and that's not true," she said.

Joy Robson was asked if she knew the boy who accused Jackson of molestation in 1993 and his mother. That boy received a multimillion-dollar settlement from Jackson and no charges were filed.

Joy Robson said she had been at Neverland with the boy and his mother but spoke to them only a few times.

On cross-examination she said, "My impression of (the mother) is she wanted to be mistress of Neverland. She would order the staff around like she owned it. My impression of (her) is she was a gold-digger."

Mesereau asked, "Did you feel she was trying to use Michael Jackson?"

"Yes," she said.

Sneddon, taking up questioning again, asked whether Robson was jealous of the woman "because she replaced you."

"Absolutely not," said the witness. "... I had no wish to be (her)."

"I asked if you were jealous of her position," Sneddon said acerbically.

"What position would that be?" asked the mother.

"Being close to Michael Jackson," said Sneddon.

"I don't know that she was close to Michael Jackson," the witness answered. "My personal knowledge of that weekend was Michael Jackson trying to elude (her) for that weekend."

Joy Robson was followed to the stand by her daughter, Chantal Robson, a 26-year-old dancer who told of sleeping in Jackson's room with her brother four times as a child.

"Did you ever see Michael Jackson molest your brother Wade?" asked Mesereau.

"No," she said with a slight laugh.

Deputy District Attorney Gordon Auchincloss asked whether she thought it appropriate for a 10-year-old girl to sleep in a bed with a man who was more than 30 years old.

"I think it's appropriate for a 10-year-old girl to sleep in a bed with a friend," she said, adding under further questioning that it would be OK if the girl "and the parents" approved.

She said, as other defense witnesses have, that she saw Jackson hug children, kiss them on the cheek but that she never saw anything of a sexual nature.

She and her mother acknowledged Jackson was helpful to the family when they came to the U.S. from Australia, paying a balance on their car and loaning them $10,000, which was never repaid.

Prosecutors claim Jackson has used gifts to gain the compliance of the mothers of some boys.

Marie Barnes, of Melbourne, Australia, said she and her family got to know Jackson after her son wrote a letter which the singer pulled out of box of fan mail and decided to make contact.

She said she allowed her son to travel around the world with Jackson on a tour because she believed it would be a learning experience.

"Did you ever suspect Mr. Jackson of inappropriately touching your son?" asked Mesereau.

"Never," she said.

She said that during visits to Neverland her son slept in Jackson's room on an off-and-on basis, sometimes when he fell asleep while playing games and watching videos.
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Reply #133 posted 05/06/05 11:59pm

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hellomoto said:



"Did you in your mind think that by having a connection and a friendship with Mr. Jackson that that could help promote your son's career?" Sneddon asked.

"You're trying to make me say that that was the basis for our friendship and that's not true," she said.

Prosecutors objected to the answer as non-responsive and Judge Rodney S. Melville sustained the objection.


This judge is a fucking twat.
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Reply #134 posted 05/07/05 1:19am

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hellomoto said:

Deputy District Attorney Gordon Auchincloss asked whether she thought it appropriate for a 10-year-old girl to sleep in a bed with a man who was more than 30 years old.


Oh for fuck's sakes. Everybody knows Michael Jackson isn't a man.
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Reply #135 posted 05/07/05 4:06am

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MattyJam said:

This judge is a fucking twat.


lol
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Reply #136 posted 05/08/05 1:53pm

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wow...this thread is the first to sorta fizz out.....

its the Attack Of the Clones of the MJ threads..

disbelief
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Reply #137 posted 05/09/05 1:57am

hellomoto

no, its because it's teh weekend, nothing is happening in the case right now, cos there not in court on weekends
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Reply #138 posted 05/09/05 9:25am

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AP

Former Jackson Employee Disputes Charge

By TIM MOLLOY, Associated Press Writer
3 minutes ago

SANTA MARIA, Calif. - A former employee of Michael Jackson's Neverland ranch was called to the stand in his child molestation trial Monday to dispute the testimony of a maid who claimed the pop star inappropriately touched actor Macaulay Culkin and other boys.

Francine Contreras, who worked at the ranch from 1991 to 1993, said that while working with maid Adrian McManus she never heard her say anything bad about the singer. Contreras also said that McManus took some toy squirt guns from Jackson's home.

The testimony began the first full week of the defense case, which has already featured two young men who testified last week that as children they slept with Jackson and were not molested. The men's testimony was backed by their mothers, who expressed trust of Jackson.

Jackson arrived shortly before testimony resumed, escorted by an aide carrying an umbrella, and accompanied by his parents and brother Jermaine.

McManus had testified for the prosecution that she saw once Jackson kiss Culkin on the cheek while his hand was on Culkin's bottom. She described similar scenes with other boys.

Culkin, a regular guest at Neverland in the early 1990s, is expected to be among defense witnesses, though there has been no indication when he might be called.

McManus' credibility was attacked by the defense, which showed that she and her husband were found to have defrauded three children of more than $30,500 and in another lawsuit was assessed $30,000 for stealing a sketch of Elvis Presley by Jackson and selling it to a tabloid.

Similarly, the prosecution sought to challenge Contreras' character by asking if she had been prosecuted for stealing at her subsequent job at a Mervyn's department store.

Contreras said she was prosecuted for trespassing, not stealing.

Jackson, 46, is accused of fondling a 13-year-old former cancer patient, plying him with alcohol, and conspiring to detain him and his family so they would rebut a documentary in which he is seen holding hands with his accuser and saying he allows children to sleep in his bed, though he says the sleepovers were non-sexual.

http://news.yahoo.com/new..._jackson_7
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Reply #139 posted 05/09/05 9:30am

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Iam gonna be first on the new update of this thread. iam gonna beat cloudy anyway.

Rumour predicts this tuesday.
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Reply #140 posted 05/09/05 9:40am

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mad
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Reply #141 posted 05/09/05 10:17am

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Cloudbuster said:

mad


It's been a dream of mine for a while now. Before its too late.
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Reply #142 posted 05/09/05 11:52am

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thesexofit said:

Cloudbuster said:

mad


It's been a dream of mine for a while now. Before its too late.


I've been there. It was everything i hoped for and more. lol
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Reply #143 posted 05/09/05 5:11pm

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***** A Problematic Timeline For The Prosecution *****



Jackson prosecutors allege that the panic over the negative publicity preceeded the molestation

By Dan Abrams

Host, "The Abrams Report"

Updated: 3:44 p.m. ET May 6, 2005The prosecution in the Jackson case rested Wednesday, and the defense case is off to a start. But the most crucial issue in the case might be the timeline, which I think is a big problem for prosecutors.

February 3, 2003: It starts when that damning documentary aired in England. The accuser and Jackson talk about sleeping next to the each other on the bed. The actual accuser in this case on that video. There are no allegations that Jackson had abused the boy yet, but prosecutors say the fallout and negative publicity from that video prompted Jackson to abduct, imprison, and extort the family and the accuser in order to have them say nice things about Jackson on tape.

February 6, 2003: The documentary airs in the U.S.. Prosecutors say in the days following the airing, Jackson's associates coerced the accuser's mother into doing a rebuttal video praising Jackson. They claim that they told her it's the only way to insure her family's safety.

February 16:, 2003: Defense investigator Bradley Miller then interviewed the family. The mother says Michael is wonderful, kind, unselfish. And what about the abuse? She says nothing improper ever happened, nothing out of the ordinary, nothing sexual.

February 19, 2003: The family again praised Jackson in the rebuttal video filmed by Jackson's associate. The mother said “We were destitute, had nowhere to turn. Michael Jackson rescued us.” Now prosecutors say it was all scripted, an allegation the defense denies.

February 20, 2003: The family tells the Department of Children and Family Services that Jackson had done nothing inappropriate. Again, the mother says after the fact that she was coerced into saying nice things. But even prosecutors aren't alleging any molestation had occurred yet. They say it starts after that video has already been made. The indictment alleges the lewd acts all happened after the rebuttal video between February 20 and March the 12th.

The defense is expected to try and narrow that timeline significantly to question how it could have happened in that period. I think, just as a matter of common sense, that this timeline is the hardest thing for prosecutors. These jurors may go back there and they may say, “Wait a second. So he is forcing the family to make a rebuttal video and say nice things even though there hadn't been any abuse at that time? Maybe they would have said nice things anyway.”

The timeline shows that the prosecution's case is that because of the panic over negative publicity, they forced this family to say that “no molestation had occurred” when it hadn't occurred, and then Michael Jackson gets over his panic just long enough to molest the child when the entire world is watching.

'The Abrams Report' airs weeknights, 6 p.m. ET on MSNBC TV.
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Reply #144 posted 05/09/05 9:17pm

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So basically at this point, even if Michael's guilty, Sneddon's gonna have his work cut out for him to prove it?

When the allegations first surfaced, I tried to keep an open mind, but couldn't help thinking, "Maybe..."

But as the trial goes along, it's looking less and less likely.
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #145 posted 05/10/05 12:09am

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About the timeline:
It has also been pointed out that Michael Jackson has only been on Neverland a couple of days in February, so this also narrows the timeslot this could have happened in.
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Reply #146 posted 05/10/05 4:08am

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And here´s my typical contribution biggrin


"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #147 posted 05/10/05 4:34am

hellomoto



wow, thats starting to look like the thriller nose
[Edited 5/10/05 4:38am]
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Reply #148 posted 05/10/05 9:37am

Luv4oneanotha

hellomoto said:



wow, thats starting to look like the thriller nose
[Edited 5/10/05 4:38am]


Yah Michaels been good when it comes to the nose jobs
Hasn't had a touch up since i believe 2002
which is extremely good when it comes to him
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Reply #149 posted 05/10/05 10:21am

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JACKSON WATCH: A rep for Michael Jackson issuing a statement Monday saying the popster may not take the stand at his child molestation trial on the advise of his defense attorneys despite his desire to profess his innocence to the world. The publicist also indicated Jackson would halt his practice of inviting young boys into his bed and swore to never sell the Beatles song catalog to shore up his finances.

http://www.eonline.com/Ne...tlook.html


eek
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