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Thread started 05/01/02 2:46am

NikkiDarling

Marilyn Manson

Guard alleges assault, sues rocker Manson
By Matt Helms
Knight Ridder Newspapers

DETROIT -- Brian Warner, who cavorts as shock rocker Marilyn Manson, now faces a federal civil lawsuit by a security guard who claims the performer assaulted him during a concert last summer at the DTE Energy Music Theatre near Clarkston, Mich.

In his suit, Joshua Keasler, who was guarding the stage during the performance, claims Manson grabbed him, wrapped his legs around his neck and ground his sweaty, G-stringed groin on his head and neck.

Keasler, 26, has suffered emotional problems and ridicule and worries about potential diseases because he was exposed to Manson's bodily fluids during the alleged assault, said his lawyer, John Nickola, who filed the suit Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Detroit.

"This was a vicious sexual assault witnessed by 20,000-some people," Nickola said. "He's a fine man, a father trying to make a living and do the right things," he said of Keasler. "And because this so-called character called Marilyn Manson has some sort of notoriety, or what he thinks is success, he thinks he can perpetrate these kinds of acts on people."

Manson's lawyer, Walter Piszczatowski, was out of town Tuesday and couldn't be reached. Piszczatowski has argued that the act was in poor taste, but was merely Manson showmanship with no sexual intent.

Keasler's suit alleges assault and battery, intentional infliction of emotional distress, gross negligence and wanton misconduct. The suit seeks more than $75,000 in damages. The case was assigned to Judge Paul Borman in Detroit.

The suit comes while a criminal charge stemming from the incident is unresolved.

Oakland County prosecutors initially charged Manson with fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct. But Clarkston District Court Judge Gerald McNally reduced the charge to disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor.

Prosecutors asked McNally to remove himself from the case, but he refused.

A hearing set for today in the criminal charge was adjourned Tuesday because Rochester District Court Judge Julie Nicholson has yet to decide on the Prosecutor's Office request that she remove McNally from the case, said assistant prosecutor Kenneth Frazee.
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(c) 2002, Detroit Free Press.
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Reply #1 posted 05/01/02 4:09am

RavedIn2

NikkiDarling said:




In his suit, Joshua Keasler, who was guarding the stage during the performance, claims Manson grabbed him, wrapped his legs around his neck and ground his sweaty, G-stringed groin on his head and neck.

Keasler, 26, has suffered emotional problems and ridicule and worries about potential diseases because he was exposed to Manson's bodily fluids during the alleged assault....


I don't blame this security guard for getting pissed and suing.

Ewwww. Can you imagine what that must have been like for that poor guy standing there doing his job and having Manson come up on him, wrap his legs around him and grinding his sweaty groin on his head and neck? barf
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Reply #2 posted 05/01/02 4:28am

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rolleyes Is anyone else tired of Manson imitating Alice Cooper, Twisted Sister, and every other shock rocker. I know I am.
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Reply #3 posted 05/01/02 5:16am

twonabomber

old news...
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Reply #4 posted 05/01/02 5:22am

NikkiDarling

twonabomber said:

old news...


What do you mean "old news?" Today is Wednesday. The lawsuit was filed Tuesday, which is one day ago.
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Reply #5 posted 05/01/02 6:46am

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It is old news in the sense that the event happened almost a year ago.

That security guard is obviously just trying to make a buck. I saw the picture of him when Manson was doing this, and that fat bastard had quite the grin on his face. How much of a pussy does a man have to be to be whining about such a thing?

If you don't like it, step away. It takes a split second to step out of the way when you feel an unwelcomed object on the back of your head. He must have stood still long enough for Manson's fluids to seep into his skin. Maybe he's suing cuz he secretly enjoyed it and is now trying to save face.
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Reply #6 posted 05/01/02 11:09am

DavidEye

Looks like EvilWhiteMale is trying to defend his "real" idol...lol...of course,if Prince was accused of doing the same thing,he'd be on here saying "Lock Prince up!" wink
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Reply #7 posted 05/01/02 2:31pm

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The point is what kind of a retarded thing is that to do.Is this what people pay to go see?Manson is a sick individual.No,it's not "all a show" and trying to go against type.This guy actually purchases authentic photographs of the Charles Manson murders.What does he do with them exactly?Anybody who would do that is sick.How do the families of the victims feel?It's obvious MM holdes Charles in high regards.He's a sick fuck.EWM is just dumb.
"Pam...that's just stupid."
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Reply #8 posted 05/01/02 3:06pm

AnitaThrill

silentflute said:

The point is what kind of a retarded thing is that to do.Is this what people pay to go see?Manson is a sick individual.No,it's not "all a show" and trying to go against type.This guy actually purchases authentic photographs of the Charles Manson murders.What does he do with them exactly?Anybody who would do that is sick.How do the families of the victims feel?It's obvious MM holdes Charles in high regards.He's a sick fuck.EWM is just dumb.



Marilyn Manson is actually very smart. If you've read his books or watched his bio on VH1 you would know that. People just attack him because of the way he's going about making money. I say if it works, go for it.

If you were at a Prince concert and he wrapped his legs around your head there would be a thread that says "Prince rubbed his cock on my head, I'm never washing my hair again".

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't say anything at all "silentflute"
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Reply #9 posted 05/01/02 5:06pm

james

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He's obviously just after the money.
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Reply #10 posted 05/01/02 5:08pm

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getwild007 said:

rolleyes Is anyone else tired of Manson imitating Alice Cooper, Twisted Sister, and every other shock rocker. I know I am.


That's what I thought at first, but Mechanical Animals is a fantastic album.
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Reply #11 posted 05/01/02 5:15pm

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AnitaThrill, Flute's just making noise and trying to start up with me again, it's boring already.

We all need to find our own avenue of expression. People hate Manson because he challenges traditional beliefs and is not about trying to make everyone happy. He is who he is, take it or leave it. At least he's honest and not a poser.

Davideye wrote:

Looks like EvilWhiteMale is trying to defend his "real" idol...lol...of course,if Prince was accused of doing the same thing,he'd be on here saying "Lock Prince up!"

EWM: How do you figure that? I think it would actually be cool if Prince did it. It would be a nice change of pace for him to do something a little crazy instead of just getting old and boring.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #12 posted 05/01/02 8:06pm

randomduck

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Davideye wrote:

Looks like EvilWhiteMale is trying to defend his "real" idol...lol...of course,if Prince was accused of doing the same thing,he'd be on here saying "Lock Prince up!"

EWM: How do you figure that? I think it would actually be cool if Prince did it. It would be a nice change of pace for him to do something a little crazy instead of just getting old and boring.


Note Davideye's use of the wink in his orginal post. No need to take it so seriously. smile

I like the Tainted Love cover Manson has done. But the video isn't all that, he may as well scream 'please, play me MTV!'.
IMO of course. wink
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Reply #13 posted 05/01/02 11:11pm

Amaya

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i agree this is old news, i love MM, i think he is great.
that guy is trying to make a buck along with jennifer's mom.
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Reply #14 posted 05/01/02 11:14pm

twonabomber

AnitaThrill said:

silentflute said:

The point is what kind of a retarded thing is that to do.Is this what people pay to go see?Manson is a sick individual.No,it's not "all a show" and trying to go against type.This guy actually purchases authentic photographs of the Charles Manson murders.What does he do with them exactly?Anybody who would do that is sick.How do the families of the victims feel?It's obvious MM holdes Charles in high regards.He's a sick fuck.EWM is just dumb.



Marilyn Manson is actually very smart. If you've read his books or watched his bio on VH1 you would know that. People just attack him because of the way he's going about making money. I say if it works, go for it.

If you were at a Prince concert and he wrapped his legs around your head there would be a thread that says "Prince rubbed his cock on my head, I'm never washing my hair again".

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't say anything at all "silentflute"


that's one of Manson's talents, pushing buttons, and he knows it. if the media whores would shut up, he'd have been over with years ago, but they give him free publicity every time they run a story on him. i went to the Mechanical Animals show, and i laughed my ass off...it is just an act...
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Reply #15 posted 05/02/02 12:18am

Christopher

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what a lame ass story.....
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Reply #16 posted 05/02/02 12:23am

Zum

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confused
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Reply #17 posted 05/02/02 2:37am

EvilWhiteMale

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Light a candle for the sinners, set the world on fire!
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #18 posted 05/02/02 1:58pm

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AnitaThrill said:

silentflute said:

The point is what kind of a retarded thing is that to do.Is this what people pay to go see?Manson is a sick individual.No,it's not "all a show" and trying to go against type.This guy actually purchases authentic photographs of the Charles Manson murders.What does he do with them exactly?Anybody who would do that is sick.How do the families of the victims feel?It's obvious MM holdes Charles in high regards.He's a sick fuck.EWM is just dumb.



Marilyn Manson is actually very smart. If you've read his books or watched his bio on VH1 you would know that. People just attack him because of the way he's going about making money. I say if it works, go for it.

I never made any reference to his intellect.I have heard him speak,and he's a pretentious ass.
If you were at a Prince concert and he wrapped his legs around your head there would be a thread that says "Prince rubbed his cock on my head, I'm never washing my hair again".

No you got me confused with your mama.


If you don't know what you're talking about, don't say anything at all "silentflute"


Don't presume don't know what i'm talking about just because you don't.Idiot.
"Pam...that's just stupid."
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Reply #19 posted 05/02/02 2:15pm

AnitaThrill

Another intelligent comment from silentflute.

I will not bother with you anymore. You are childish, annoying and quite boring.
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Reply #20 posted 05/03/02 10:38am

bubbles

I think Marliyn Manson is VILE.
I find it amusing thsat people like him cuz he "pushes peoples buttons", what buttons? How exactly does he make you"Think"?? Its easy to be sensationalist and gain attention for looking like he does but I cant see anything good coming out of him or his music. He is sick.
People who admire these charachters because they feel he "challenges traditional beliefs" have nothing better to do with their time or brains.
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Reply #21 posted 05/03/02 10:45am

DavidEye

EvilWhiteMale said:

AnitaThrill, Flute's just making noise and trying to start up with me again, it's boring already.

We all need to find our own avenue of expression. People hate Manson because he challenges traditional beliefs and is not about trying to make everyone happy. He is who he is, take it or leave it. At least he's honest and not a poser.

Davideye wrote:

Looks like EvilWhiteMale is trying to defend his "real" idol...lol...of course,if Prince was accused of doing the same thing,he'd be on here saying "Lock Prince up!"

EWM: How do you figure that? I think it would actually be cool if Prince did it. It would be a nice change of pace for him to do something a little crazy instead of just getting old and boring.






So,the next time you see Prince in concert,I guess you wouldn't mind if he and Larry did this to you?? After all,it's better to do something crazy like that,instead of becoming "old and boring",right?
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Reply #22 posted 05/03/02 7:41pm

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Actually I'd love it cuz it would give me the opportunity to punch them right in the balls. And I sure as hell wouldn't file a stupid lawsuit. I'd deal with it my own way.

If that security moron didn't like Manson to do what he did, he should have stepped out of the way and kept his distance, but instead he stood there and let it happen long enough.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #23 posted 05/03/02 7:43pm

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Hey Bubbles, read Manson's book "Long Hard Road Out Of Hell" and watch his TV interviews. Then comment on him.
"You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." "

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Reply #24 posted 05/03/02 8:42pm

bubbles

EWM I'm not about to read any book of his but I have seen him in interviews and I have commented on him.
Besides you dont need to read his book to have an opnion, I think he pretty much presents himself very explicitly.
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Reply #25 posted 05/03/02 11:44pm

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james said:


That's what I thought at first, but Mechanical Animals is a fantastic album.



no shit... listen to osama bin larry... "mechanical animals" is quite the work of art... each of the songs have a different sound, ranging from straight up metal, to industrial, some slower-ballad type songs, and even a funky-ass song... good cd... check it out...
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Reply #26 posted 05/03/02 11:50pm

Epigram

Yeah Ok.

But what if Prince did this 2 U??

What U sue or suck??

lol
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Reply #27 posted 05/04/02 12:33am

RavedIn2

Epigram said:

Yeah Ok.

But what if Prince did this 2 U??

What U sue or suck??

lol


For some reason, I'm doubting that Prince would bump and grind his sweaty balls on a guy's head? smile
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Reply #28 posted 05/04/02 9:59am

Lleena

RavedIn2 said:

Epigram said:

Yeah Ok.

But what if Prince did this 2 U??

What U sue or suck??

lol


For some reason, I'm doubting that Prince would bump and grind his sweaty balls on a guy's head? smile



LMAO.. lol i just cant imagine prince doing this either. Im afraid hes got too much class to make such a fool of himself, unlike Marilyn Manson, um i mean Brian.
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Reply #29 posted 05/04/02 12:17pm

Amaya

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RavedIn2 said:

Epigram said:

Yeah Ok.

But what if Prince did this 2 U??

What U sue or suck??

lol


For some reason, I'm doubting that Prince would bump and grind his sweaty balls on a guy's head? smile



WELL IM THINKING THAT MOST OF THE fans...UMM I MEAN FANATICS WOULDNT MIND PRINCE DOING THIS TO THEM...thats the funny part!
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