I knew it would come to this, but I didn't imagine it happening on the internet.

This is pasted from Detroit Native MC HUSH's message board at http://mchush.com ...

You are a complete idiot. And now I have to put you on blast.

FOR ALL THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHO MR. MORBID IS I WILL NOW TELL YOU!!!

His rap name is Aroc. He used to work at Jiffy Lube on 8 Mile & Kelly Rd.
A member of our distinguished Hip-Hop community here in Detroit UNTIL:

HE WENT ALONG WITH ANOTHER PUNK BITCH NAMED R.B. WHO STOLE A TAPE FROM DJ BUTTAFINGAZ (EM'S OLD DJ AND FRIEND) AND LET JA RULE AND BENZINO AND DAVE MAYS OF THE SAUCE #$%* THEM IN THEIR ASS WHILE THEY SOLD EMINEM OUT FOR $14,000 CASH AND THE PROMISE OF A RECORD DEAL!!!! THEN TRIED TO TELL PEOPLE YOU WERE LOOKING OUT FOR BUTTAFINGAZ CUZ YOU FELT SORRY FOR HIM...ARE YOU KIDDING ME? HA HA HA.

All you had to do was pay dues, mind your business and keep putting food in your kids mouth but you couldn't be patient, you had to BE A SNITCH.

You are a stupid faggot and are rotting in hell every day for what you did.

You're a coward. I never did anything against you ever. EVER. Actually we had some pretty cool conversations, but NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS would I had ever thought I would be standing next to someone who would snitch out someone. Rats like you get shanked in the penn.

Yeah Em and I had problems but we're cool and handle differences like men, cuz we got kids and understand what's more important in life, your friends and family.

OBVIOUSLY DUMB ASS you have no frame of reference.

THE TAPES ABOUT THE BLACK GIRL AND ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT CAME FROM IT, AND MONEY EMINEM HAD TO SPEND IN COURT TO DEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST SOME B.S. FAGGOT LIKE BENZINO WAS BECAUSE OF YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU.....

YOU'RE LUCKY IT WASN'T ME HOMEBOY AND SOMEONE LIKE YOU TRYING TO CRUSH WHAT I'VE BUILT FOR MY KIDS THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT...

And don't come on my board looking for my Road Manager who can't help you out. You made a life changing decision that has you so blackballed, every crazy fan of 1 man might change your features 1 day if they find out who you are.

AND DON'T BE A P@#$Y AND COME ON MY BOARD TALKING *@%$ ABOUT ME. I OBVIOUSLY CREATED JEALOUSY AND ENVY WHEN I ACHIEVED SOME SORT OF SUCCESS. YOUR FAME I WOULDN'T WISH ON NOONE!!! BE SMART AND PLAY YOUR CARDS RIGHT, CUZ 1 DAY YOU'LL COME OUT OF THE CLOSET THINKING *@%$ IS SWEET AND IT'S OVER FOR YOU.

BELIEVE ME, PEOPLE STILL AIN'T FORGOT ABOUT YOU.

YOU REALLY MESSED UP. DON'T BLAME ME. I'M JUST COOL WITH THE DUDE YOU SCREWED OVER.

I HOPE IT WAS WORTH IT.
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Aroc, another Detroit Rapper, and long-time associate of most of Detroit's Hip Hop scene of the last 15 years, replied in the thread:

1st off dont go putting anyone on front street partner until you do some deep soulsearchin!....Is it not you who got kicked out the military dog, is it not you who stole *@%$ from numerous people homie, is it not you that talked all kinda *@%$ about a man when you had nuthin goin 4 you, but now want to sound just like him on wax?.....Damn dude your pretty quick to point fingerz, when your not exactly a fuckin angel!.....As far as the Marsh thing goes, yeah some peepz go about thingz in the wrong mannor man....*@%$, some peepz do thangs they wish they COULD take back, but you know what....when a cat dicks all his boys from a certain tyme in his life when *@%$ was a struggle, what kind of jake does that make him?....Man butter and Gene, still had Halies picture on their tv set man, and the kid was gettin a phonecall like twice a year!.....The man is the most respected and most talented emcee in the fuckin werld, and he doesnt have one meezley position to give a guy....especially when hez supposed to consider him family?.....You tell me dog...how many people does it take to ride one persons band wagon before that *@%$ topplez over, and people see the situation the way it iz!.....I love hiphop dog....i know the struggle, i know whoz paid their dues....and *@%$ dog i would die for it. Some things in life you wish you could rewind, but you grinn and bear it homie. I love my kids with all my heart dog, so dont come at me with the responsible parent *@%$. You helped destroy that situation with your lil emails to my babyz mom. Talkin all sorts of *@%$ about me to her....Thats low budget homie....If you ever got somethin to say to me dog...Tell me. Dont be a weasle Hush. Butter always told me about you dog, but i defended you!.....Whateverz whatever....Hate me....Despize me. I will never stop rappin homie. That would be like losin a kid...yourz truly.....MORBID
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And Finally, Hush rebutted:

1st of all let me set the record straight, once again you dumb ASS, cuz that's what you look like.

I was 17 years old when I joined the Navy and was kicked out for ROBBING civilians on the island of Guam with 5 other duDes. I was caught, tried, and punished and sentenced to 4 years in the joint, of which I did 2 years, 1 year "Midnight Express" style in Guam, the other "Crip" style in L.A. in the states.

WHAT THE #$%K DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?


And for your information, the whole "turntables" situation is old and stale, especially when the dude who actually did it is in the joint right now on an unrelated crime bragging about it.

I think everyone around Marshall at some point talked *@%$. I know I did, I know EVERYBODY did, why? Because we thought as friends he owed us. But as I continued to do what I did musically and get further in this music *@%$ I learned that it doesn't work that way. And I took back everything wrong I said about a guy because of 1 mistake and I apologized. Now that's being real.

And no I don't sound like him on wax, and if I do sound a little, maybe there is a little influence from him because I'm able to be in the studio with him and hear him tell me "change this" or "you should try this", and for me, every unknown artist on this planet would dream to have that chance.

Let me tell you some other *@%$ I've learned since you seem to be Butter's mouthpiece.

Friends don't hire close friends because if *@%$ goes wrong you don't want to be the bad guy when you have to fire that person.

Perfect example. Gary Kozlowski. Marshall wouldn't hire a dude who actually tried to take a pistol case from him when that *@%$ went down at Hot Rocks. So as a favor for Marshall I hire him, but it didn't work out. So I had to fire him. That's the way of the land, now Gary's talking *@%$ when we are friends, but I'd rather him talk *@%$ about me then someone who I consider a friend and has a lot more to lose than me.

And since you've been in hiding, stop talking for Butter unless you know what's up. Butter now works over at FBT Studios and does tracks for Marshall. You don't know *@%$.

I paid my dues and earned *@%$, you took a bitch route.

AND FOR YOUR INFO:

Your baby moms, who thought she was a rapper, would hit me up for beats all day long. She was the one running her mouth and spilling the beans on you. That's not on me. I never said *@%$ about you until she spilled the beans about the tape *@%$. AND FOR THAT, you deserve to be talked about FOR LIFE!!!

Don't interrupt my life or my message board cuz you are bitter about your situation, that is something you have to realize and should have the minute you were presented the opportunity to SNITCH.

I give people jobs, sorry I'm not able to give you one.

THIS IS THE LAST TIME I SPEAK ON YOU
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Is a HIP HOP CIVIL WAR brewing? I hope this doesn't turn into another Pac & Biggie (Remember, they both were originally from New York. There was nothing "east coast-west coast" about it) ... What do you all think?

What's this shit about?

Hotlegs said:

if you're not a serious hiphop head, you're not gonna understand what this is about. it's basically an argument between 2 rappers from detroit who have been part of the scene there for years, and both know eminem from the scene... one is accusing the other of stealing the tapes where eminem made the racist remarks and selling them to benzino/dave mays/the source - therefore being a snitch.

Hotlegs said:

if you're not a serious hiphop head, you're not gonna understand what this is about. it's basically an argument between 2 rappers from detroit who have been part of the scene there for years, and both know eminem from the scene... one is accusing the other of stealing the tapes where eminem made the racist remarks and selling them to benzino/dave mays/the source - therefore being a snitch.

Honestly,I dont feel like reading all of that

i didn't understand any of that.

brownsugar said:

I'm sitting here going, "Whaaaaa???"

CalhounSq said:

I personally thought it was another lanuage.

Rhondab said:

Hey Rhonda!

brownsugar said:

I'm sitting here going, "Whaaaaa???"

CalhounSq said:

Short version. One MC is busting out the other MC for selling the tape that he lifted from Eminem's old DJ to Benzino (Eminem's MC enemy) and the Source magazine. He's basically calling him out in a long-winded way for doing it. Apparently, the MC that sold the tape with the racist rhymes on it is bitter that Eminem didn't look out for him after he gained his fame. I guess they were all friends before.

BlaqueKnight said:

Thanks for the translation!!!

Rhondab said:

Yea, thanks Blaque I'd heard something about it before but the way that shit is written is just

BlaqueKnight said:

Yeah I know...

When i was 12 i have a song with me and my frined and brother and along the words someone said, "I aint gay" and I said, "I know I hate gay people"

If I was to become famous some1 would blast that tape out and call me a homophobe even though Im gay myself

We all do stupid stuff when we were young. I got even more explicit stuff I have said on tape that nun yall will know about so I don't really have 'anger' torwards him at all.

BlaqueKnight said:

The white people all secretly hate us minorities! Run for the hills, Martha!

Get a fucking grip.


Yeah, Eminem said some racist shit. Was anyone really that surprised? This is the same guy who spouts homophobic shit to make a few bucks (though I suspect he's actually gay, but that's for another thread) and has a song about killing his own mother. Marshall Mathers is a shithead in need of therapy. Or a beating or something.
[Edited 4/25/05 21:28pm]

BlaqueKnight said:

The white people all secretly hate us minorities! Run for the hills, Martha!

Get a fucking grip.


Yeah, Eminem said some racist shit. Was anyone really that surprised? This is the same guy who spouts homophobic shit to make a few bucks (though I suspect he's actually gay, but that's for another thread) and has a song about killing his own mother. Marshall Mathers is a shithead in need of therapy. Or a beating or something.
[Edited 4/25/05 21:28pm]

BlaqueKnight said:

The white people all secretly hate us minorities! Run for the hills, Martha!

Get a fucking grip.


Yeah, Eminem said some racist shit. Was anyone really that surprised? This is the same guy who spouts homophobic shit to make a few bucks (though I suspect he's actually gay, but that's for another thread) and has a song about killing his own mother. Marshall Mathers is a shithead in need of therapy. Or a beating or something.

meow85 said: