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Paula Abdul has neurological disorder

http://story.news.yahoo.c...rugrelated


Abdul says odd behavior not drug-related

Thu Apr 21, 6:42 AM ET Entertainment - USATODAY.com


By César G. Soriano, USA TODAY

American Idol judge Paula Abdul, responding to questions about her erratic behavior on the hit Fox talent show, says she is suffering from a rare neurological disorder and does not have a drug problem.



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"Drugs? I'm not addicted to pills of any kind," Abdul says in the new issue of People magazine (on newsstands Friday).


Abdul, 42, says she has been battling chronic pain that began after a cheerleading accident at age 17 left here with an injured disc in her neck.


The pain got worse after "a couple of car accidents" in the 1980s and a plane crash in 1992, which led to seizures, bulimia and depression, she says. In search of relief, Abdul had 12 operations and used medications she says left her so "loopy" that she chose to live with the pain.


The turning point came last summer, she says, when she began taking Enbrel, an anti-inflammatory drug normally used to treat rheumatoid arthritis and psoriasis.


A spokeswoman for the drug says it does not have psychological side effects.


In November, Abdul says, she was diagnosed with Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (aka Complex Regional Pain syndrome), a chronic neurological disorder that causes severe, debilitating pain. It affects 500,000 to 1 million Americans and is more prevalent in women, according to the Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome Association.


The disease is treatable and usually involves physical and sometimes psychological therapy, says Norman Harden, director of the Center for Pain Studies at the Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago. "People can do well and get on with their lives."


Abdul says she kept her condition secret from her fellow Idol judges but decided to go public after reading message boards about her behavior on and off the set.


"Between getting up and dancing at the drop of a hat, and her refusal to let Simon (Cowell) finish a sentence ... she's become both distracting and annoying," says Idol fan Steve Walker of Memphis.


Abdul says she is now pain-free, and her happy-go-lucky demeanor is proof of how good she feels.


"If people only knew what I've gone through with pain and pills. I'm dancing for joy at the fact that not even a year ago I was in so much pain I could barely get up," she tells People.


Last month, she was sentenced to two years' probation after pleading no contest to a misdemeanor count of hit-and-run driving.


Idol producers and her castmates declined to comment on Wednesday.


"It was getting ugly with the lies people were saying," Abdul tells Entertainment Tonight in an interview airing today and Friday. "It was time to set the record straight. I want America to know that I have never been addicted to anything, no chemical dependency, nothing for recreational purposes."
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Reply #1 posted 04/21/05 8:31pm

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sounds like damage control
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Reply #2 posted 04/21/05 8:36pm

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twink69 said:

sounds like damage control


Completely. I'm sure the accident is real. But she is hopped on painkillers...prety clear.
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MendesCity said:

I'm sure the accident is real. But she is hopped on painkillers...prety clear.

"Pretty clear" why? Are you a physician? Funny how every allegation is true in this society.
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WhamBamGlamSlam said:

MendesCity said:

I'm sure the accident is real. But she is hopped on painkillers...prety clear.

"Pretty clear" why? Are you a physician? Funny how every allegation is true in this society.


Don't you just HATE that crap? Someone can allege anything negative about a person and others will just jump on it for no other reason than that it's been SAID! I am intelligent enough to know that some things are true and some are not (and without proof, will often give the benefit of doubt). I just cannot figure out what the thought process is of those who never look at positive possibilities!
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NewPowerSista said:

WhamBamGlamSlam said:


"Pretty clear" why? Are you a physician? Funny how every allegation is true in this society.


Don't you just HATE that crap? Someone can allege anything negative about a person and others will just jump on it for no other reason than that it's been SAID! I am intelligent enough to know that some things are true and some are not (and without proof, will often give the benefit of doubt). I just cannot figure out what the thought process is of those who never look at positive possibilities!


Um, not a "physician," but a "pretty" good speller--my "cumpuueter" is just busy doing other shit, so my keyboard is slow and I'm too busy to go back and correct every typo.

But...I've known a few drug addicts in my time, worked in a psychiatric ward, and her behavior fits a lot of the patterns (which differ from "neurological" patterns). I feel bad for her, and I don't blame her (as I said, I don't doubt that there's some incident that triggered it), but her behavior is very erratic in a druggy kind of way. Tell me, what are your "qualifications" that enable you to know that her undeniably bizarre behavior is not drug-related?
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Janfriend said:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=680&e=6&u=/usatoday/abdulsaysoddbehaviornotdrugrelated


Abdul says odd behavior not drug-related

Thu Apr 21, 6:42 AM ET Entertainment - USATODAY.com


By César G. Soriano, USA TODAY

American Idol judge Paula Abdul, responding to questions about her erratic behavior on the hit Fox talent show, says she is suffering from a rare neurological disorder and does not have a drug problem.



-----

Search USATODAY.com



"Drugs? I'm not addicted to pills of any kind," Abdul says in the new issue of People magazine (on newsstands Friday).


Abdul, 42, says she has been battling chronic pain that began after a cheerleading accident at age 17 left here with an injured disc in her neck.


The pain got worse after "a couple of car accidents" in the 1980s and a plane crash in 1992, which led to seizures, bulimia and depression, she says. In search of relief, Abdul had 12 operations and used medications she says left her so "loopy" that she chose to live with the pain.


The turning point came last summer, she says, when she began taking Enbrel, an anti-inflammatory drug normally used to treat rheumatoid arthritis and psoriasis.


A spokeswoman for the drug says it does not have psychological side effects.


In November, Abdul says, she was diagnosed with Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy (aka Complex Regional Pain syndrome), a chronic neurological disorder that causes severe, debilitating pain. It affects 500,000 to 1 million Americans and is more prevalent in women, according to the Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome Association.


The disease is treatable and usually involves physical and sometimes psychological therapy, says Norman Harden, director of the Center for Pain Studies at the Rehabilitation Institute of Chicago. "People can do well and get on with their lives."


Abdul says she kept her condition secret from her fellow Idol judges but decided to go public after reading message boards about her behavior on and off the set.


"Between getting up and dancing at the drop of a hat, and her refusal to let Simon (Cowell) finish a sentence ... she's become both distracting and annoying," says Idol fan Steve Walker of Memphis.


Abdul says she is now pain-free, and her happy-go-lucky demeanor is proof of how good she feels.


"If people only knew what I've gone through with pain and pills. I'm dancing for joy at the fact that not even a year ago I was in so much pain I could barely get up," she tells People.


Last month, she was sentenced to two years' probation after pleading no contest to a misdemeanor count of hit-and-run driving.


Idol producers and her castmates declined to comment on Wednesday.


"It was getting ugly with the lies people were saying," Abdul tells Entertainment Tonight in an interview airing today and Friday. "It was time to set the record straight. I want America to know that I have never been addicted to anything, no chemical dependency, nothing for recreational purposes."
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I truly believe that Paula Abdul is full of bullshit. I don't feel that its right that she use a serious condition as an excuse for her erratic irrational behavior on AI on the roadwayas.

After doing some research of my own on the net, I found out the RSD is some seriuos shit. When you get diagnosed with RSD, there is no comming back from that b/c it effects your body simular to Cancer and MS and the patient will end up taking similar medications as Cancer and MS patients.

Check out this website for real accounts of how a real person with RSD lives from day to day. Trust me, it's far from glamorous as Paula Abduls lying ass
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http://groups.msn.com/RSD...ringMeDown


After you check out this website, you see what I mean. Her ass needs to be pimp2 slapped for lying like that.
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mad
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I concede. Y'all have ALL the proof I need. falloff
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Hotlegs said:


I truly believe that Paula Abdul is full of bullshit. I don't feel that its right that she use a serious condition as an excuse for her erratic irrational behavior on AI on the roadwayas. .
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i was listening to someone on the radio who treats and diagnoses this condition in a lot of people and they said that there is a specific "personality" associated with the disorder. that when people who act a certain way (kind of wacky and needy) they know pretty much right off that that's what they're there for.
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Reply #10 posted 04/22/05 10:29am

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Tessa said:

Hotlegs said:


I truly believe that Paula Abdul is full of bullshit. I don't feel that its right that she use a serious condition as an excuse for her erratic irrational behavior on AI on the roadwayas. .
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i was listening to someone on the radio who treats and diagnoses this condition in a lot of people and they said that there is a specific "personality" associated with the disorder. that when people who act a certain way (kind of wacky and needy) they know pretty much right off that that's what they're there for.


Personality disoroder my ass. This is crock of shit mad. I know someone personally who suffers with this disorder and it hasn't effected their personality one damn bit. I one thing is that this nerve condition can be disabling because my friend got nerve damage in his leg and he has to through physical and occupational therapy and get treated with medication similar to that of Cancer patients. So when people talk untrue shit about a condition that they don't know a goddamn thing about Legs got to set them straight b/c this condition ain't nothing to fuck with if you actually have it
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I'm glad the madication is helping her feel better, but yet is she ok enough while on the pills to judge correctly? I saw the one show where she was really acting a little too happy like 2 weeks ago and it showed.

I hope they do not replace her or anything like that.

I know some1 took depression pills and they made her happy too kinda like that. It's not anything out of the ordinary that much
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Reply #12 posted 04/22/05 10:33am

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I'm glad the madication is helping her feel better, but yet is she ok enough while on the pills to judge correctly? I saw the one show where she was really acting a little too happy like 2 weeks ago and it showed.

I hope they do not replace her or anything like that.

I know some1 took depression pills and they made her happy too kinda like that. It's not anything out of the ordinary that much


That bitch mad got some nerve making a mockery out of sering nerve damage condition like RSD. Her ass needs to be pimp2 slapped. Read my previous posts if you haven't already and you see what I mean. This RSD is some serious shit especially when you got to really live in pain for the rest of your life.
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Hotlegs said:

paisleypark4 said:

I'm glad the madication is helping her feel better, but yet is she ok enough while on the pills to judge correctly? I saw the one show where she was really acting a little too happy like 2 weeks ago and it showed.

I hope they do not replace her or anything like that.

I know some1 took depression pills and they made her happy too kinda like that. It's not anything out of the ordinary that much


That bitch mad got some nerve making a mockery out of sering nerve damage condition like RSD. Her ass needs to be pimp2 slapped. Read my previous posts if you haven't already and you see what I mean. This RSD is some serious shit especially when you got to really live in pain for the rest of your life.
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Shes a celebrity and they gotta make it seem not THAT bad
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Reply #14 posted 04/22/05 11:32am

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I've always wondered what was wrong with her. It's been obvious for ages that something wasn't right. She often acts as though she's out in left field and she babbles on and on at times. I find that it takes her forever to get to her point, now I know why.
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Reply #15 posted 04/22/05 11:35am

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paisleypark4 said:

Hotlegs said:



That bitch mad got some nerve making a mockery out of sering nerve damage condition like RSD. Her ass needs to be pimp2 slapped. Read my previous posts if you haven't already and you see what I mean. This RSD is some serious shit especially when you got to really live in pain for the rest of your life.
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Shes a celebrity and they gotta make it seem not THAT bad
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Reply #16 posted 04/22/05 11:39am

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Hotlegs said:

paisleypark4 said:



Shes a celebrity and they gotta make it seem not THAT bad


hmmm You mean more like a has been celebrity on a damn rigged televised talent show lol . Somebody needs to pimp2 slap that heffa for lying like that about this serious condition mad read my precious posts.
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Reply #17 posted 04/22/05 2:40pm

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Who's Paula Abdul? Never heard of her here in Europe... eek
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Reply #18 posted 04/22/05 2:51pm

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I just think her "neurological disorder" is plain ol' stupidity. But she's great on that show. It's like watching a train wreck.
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Hotlegs said:

Tessa said:




i was listening to someone on the radio who treats and diagnoses this condition in a lot of people and they said that there is a specific "personality" associated with the disorder. that when people who act a certain way (kind of wacky and needy) they know pretty much right off that that's what they're there for.


Personality disoroder my ass. This is crock of shit mad. I know someone personally who suffers with this disorder and it hasn't effected their personality one damn bit. I one thing is that this nerve condition can be disabling because my friend got nerve damage in his leg and he has to through physical and occupational therapy and get treated with medication similar to that of Cancer patients. So when people talk untrue shit about a condition that they don't know a goddamn thing about Legs got to set them straight b/c this condition ain't nothing to fuck with if you actually have it
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shrug just telling you what someone who diagnoses and treats it said. take it or leave it.
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Who's Paula Abdul? Never heard of her here in Europe... eek



to put it in terms you might understand, she wrote Kylie's "Spinning Around."
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Reply #21 posted 04/22/05 6:27pm

Hotlegs

Tessa said:

Hotlegs said:



Personality disoroder my ass. This is crock of shit mad. I know someone personally who suffers with this disorder and it hasn't effected their personality one damn bit. I one thing is that this nerve condition can be disabling because my friend got nerve damage in his leg and he has to through physical and occupational therapy and get treated with medication similar to that of Cancer patients. So when people talk untrue shit about a condition that they don't know a goddamn thing about Legs got to set them straight b/c this condition ain't nothing to fuck with if you actually have it
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shrug just telling you what someone who diagnoses and treats it said.

That person is obviosly not well versed on the disease and is full of shit.
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Reply #22 posted 04/22/05 6:28pm

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I just think her "neurological disorder" is plain ol' stupidity.

nod Your accessment is very accurate.
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Who's Paula Abdul? Never heard of her here in Europe... eek

lol Shit, you ain't missing much. She is a typical washed up pop star who slept here way to the top and who is always looking for a way to get attention.
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Reply #24 posted 04/22/05 6:31pm

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My sympathies if she does indeed have it, but my personal opinion is that she does not.
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my personal opinion is that she does not.

:nod; I ditto that.
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Hotlegs said:

Tessa said:



shrug just telling you what someone who diagnoses and treats it said.

That person is obviosly not well versed on the disease and is full of shit.



are you saying you're more versed in this disease than a person who diagnoses and treats it on a daily basis? interesting.


http://www.springerlink.c...1:104897,1

Journal of Clinical Psychology in Medical Settings
Publisher: Springer Science+Business Media B.V., Formerly Kluwer Academic Publishers B.V.
ISSN: 1068-9583 (Paper) 1573-3572 (Online)
DOI: 10.1023/A:1025462829059
Issue: Volume 10, Number 3

Date: September 2003
Pages: 193 - 199
Similarities Between the Psychological Profiles of Complex Regional Pain Syndrome and Conversion Disorder Patients
Shimon Shiri1 , Jeanna Tsenter1, Ram Livai1, Isabella Schwartz1 and Jean-Jacques Vatine1

(1) The Department of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, Hadassah University Hospital, The Hebrew University, Faculty of Medicine, Jerusalem, Israel


Abstract The psychological profile of 17 Complex Regional Pain Syndrome type I (CRPS) and 20 Conversion Disorder (CD) patients were compared, using the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI) and standardized, semistructured psychological interviews. Both groups presented abnormally high somatization scores. Low anxiety scores in both groups indicate that somatization may have served as a defense mechanism to bind anxiety. Depression was apparent in both groups, indicating that psychological distress accompany these syndromes. About one third of the participants in both groups presented comorbid Axis I disorders, mostly depression and PTSD. CRPS patients have traditionally been looked upon as suffering from mainly organic symptoms, whereas CD patients have been labeled as psychiatric patients. These results may indicate the need to reexamine the traditional classifications in respect to disorders that involve body and mind.

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Reply #27 posted 04/22/05 7:15pm

Hotlegs

Tessa said:

Hotlegs said:


That person is obviosly not well versed on the disease and is full of shit.



are you saying you're more versed in this disease than a person who diagnoses and treats it on a daily basis? interesting.


http://www.springerlink.c...1:104897,1

Journal of Clinical Psychology in Medical Settings
Publisher: Springer Science+Business Media B.V., Formerly Kluwer Academic Publishers B.V.
ISSN: 1068-9583 (Paper) 1573-3572 (Online)
DOI: 10.1023/A:1025462829059
Issue: Volume 10, Number 3

Date: September 2003
Pages: 193 - 199
Similarities Between the Psychological Profiles of Complex Regional Pain Syndrome and Conversion Disorder Patients
Shimon Shiri1 , Jeanna Tsenter1, Ram Livai1, Isabella Schwartz1 and Jean-Jacques Vatine1

(1) The Department of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, Hadassah University Hospital, The Hebrew University, Faculty of Medicine, Jerusalem, Israel


Abstract The psychological profile of 17 Complex Regional Pain Syndrome type I (CRPS) and 20 Conversion Disorder (CD) patients were compared, using the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI) and standardized, semistructured psychological interviews. Both groups presented abnormally high somatization scores. Low anxiety scores in both groups indicate that somatization may have served as a defense mechanism to bind anxiety. Depression was apparent in both groups, indicating that psychological distress accompany these syndromes. About one third of the participants in both groups presented comorbid Axis I disorders, mostly depression and PTSD. CRPS patients have traditionally been looked upon as suffering from mainly organic symptoms, whereas CD patients have been labeled as psychiatric patients. These results may indicate the need to reexamine the traditional classifications in respect to disorders that involve body and mind.

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What I am saying is that you have only quoted one doctor, there are numerous studies on RSD and not all RSD patients are the same . Thus, it is inaccurate and bias to use an opinion of one doctor that has only delt with one particular type of patient whose encountered depression. Again, this is why I say he is full of shit. Some credible doctors in RSD research are Dr. Houshaam in Florida and also doctors at Cleveland Clinic.
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Hotlegs said:

Tessa said:




are you saying you're more versed in this disease than a person who diagnoses and treats it on a daily basis? interesting.


http://www.springerlink.c...1:104897,1

Journal of Clinical Psychology in Medical Settings
Publisher: Springer Science+Business Media B.V., Formerly Kluwer Academic Publishers B.V.
ISSN: 1068-9583 (Paper) 1573-3572 (Online)
DOI: 10.1023/A:1025462829059
Issue: Volume 10, Number 3

Date: September 2003
Pages: 193 - 199
Similarities Between the Psychological Profiles of Complex Regional Pain Syndrome and Conversion Disorder Patients
Shimon Shiri1 , Jeanna Tsenter1, Ram Livai1, Isabella Schwartz1 and Jean-Jacques Vatine1

(1) The Department of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, Hadassah University Hospital, The Hebrew University, Faculty of Medicine, Jerusalem, Israel


Abstract The psychological profile of 17 Complex Regional Pain Syndrome type I (CRPS) and 20 Conversion Disorder (CD) patients were compared, using the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI) and standardized, semistructured psychological interviews. Both groups presented abnormally high somatization scores. Low anxiety scores in both groups indicate that somatization may have served as a defense mechanism to bind anxiety. Depression was apparent in both groups, indicating that psychological distress accompany these syndromes. About one third of the participants in both groups presented comorbid Axis I disorders, mostly depression and PTSD. CRPS patients have traditionally been looked upon as suffering from mainly organic symptoms, whereas CD patients have been labeled as psychiatric patients. These results may indicate the need to reexamine the traditional classifications in respect to disorders that involve body and mind.

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What I am saying is that you have only quoted one doctor, there are numerous studies on RSD and not all RSD patients are the same . Thus, it is inaccurate and bias to use an opinion of one doctor that has only delt with one particular type of patient whose encountered depression. Again, this is why I say he is full of shit. Some credible doctors in RSD research are Dr. Houshaam in Florida and also doctors at Cleveland Clinic.
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actually, i quoted the doctor i heard on the radio, and i found this study on it as well. that's 2 sources that i've cited. can you provide evidence, besides one anecdotal case of your firned, that a person's personality or psychological state ISN'T affected by RSD?
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Reply #29 posted 04/22/05 8:53pm

Hotlegs

Tessa said:

Hotlegs said:


What I am saying is that you have only quoted one doctor, there are numerous studies on RSD and not all RSD patients are the same . Thus, it is inaccurate and bias to use an opinion of one doctor that has only delt with one particular type of patient whose encountered depression. Again, this is why I say he is full of shit. Some credible doctors in RSD research are Dr. Houshaam in Florida and also doctors at Cleveland Clinic.
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actually, i quoted the doctor i heard on the radio, and i found this study on it as well. that's 2 sources that i've cited. can you provide evidence, besides one anecdotal case of your firned, that a person's personality or psychological state ISN'T affected by RSD?
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First of Tessa, the antedotal website I provided was given because it provide multiple accounts peoples day to day life struggle with RSD ( if you had time to read it you have realized that). Since, its evident that you are not well versed on this condition b/c all you have to go by is media and not first hand accounts, I am going to refer to some of the true experts in the field of RSD and that would be Dr Hooshmand and Cleveland Cleveland Pain Clinic. Hopefully, you will completely read through these website and learn something about the true nature and the complexities of this disorder and find that its much more complex than what some few sources you have found have eluded too.

http://www.clevelandclini...reflex.htm

http://www.rsdrx.com/index.htm
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