Janfriend said:

well i guess i am white, but im also (austrlian) aboriginal, my dad's half aboriginal, and my mum is completely white. i dont look white, and i dont look black, i've got tan skin and brown hair. so i dont really have a race issue as noboady can tell what race i am. but it just offends me that no one acknolwedges there white side, i couldnt do that to my mum, and just totally ignore her, like she didnt have a hand in making me. thats what it feels like to me when people dont mention both races, i would probably feel the same way towards my dad if no one claimed to have black in them.

but yes i am from australia so i dont understand how it is with black people in america, but the situation in australia with aboriginals is (based on what i do know) kinda the same as the blacks in america.

hellomoto said:

It's the more dominant gene, plus the two that you mentioned above have acknowledged their white parents quite a bit, Halle had her white mother with her at the Oscars and Alicia has been seen with her white mom many times. They've mentioned their white parents in interviews. What more do you want them to say?

but yes i am from australia so i dont understand how it is with black people in america, but the situation in australia with aboriginals is (based on what i do know) kinda the same as the blacks in america.[/quote]


the two don't even measure on the same page, trust me.

hellomoto said:

It seems you are basing a look to a race and you shouldn't. We come in all shades. It really doesn't mean much

Do you make it a point to tell everyone you meet that you have a white mom and a half aboriginal dad? Is that your way of acknowledging her? I would say acknowledging her would be introducing her to people you know or showing them a picture of her. You don't have to mention both races in order to acknowledge them. You know who you are.

Here in the U.S. it's more about choosing because of the difficult history between the races. The residue of slavery is still here

hellomoto said:

If you are truly aboriginal, then that means you have some Black blood in you and can't fully claim yourself as fully White. In America, you would be considered mixed b/c the aboriginies are the equivilent of the Native Americans/Black Americans in the US. Stop fooling yourself and identify with your Black side and stop trying to embrace your White side so much.

Don't get me wrong, alot of Black Americans are from mixed backgrounds due to the mixing of races that took place as a result of their African acestors being in captivity and their European ancestors being slavemaster. Given the history of alot Black Americans, it is quite hurtful to think about thier European ancestory.

meltwithu said:

i hope your not meaning that aboriginals havent gone through as much as africans. cos aboriginals have gone through a hell of alot.

and to mslegs im not claiming myself fully white, and even if i were to (which i wouldnt) i know alot of blacks that claim there only black when there not, but to you i guess thats ok. some of the whites of australia have gone through alot too, have you ever heard of convicts. alot of white people were sent to australia (by other white people) and became slaves and were treated very badly, just like africans. and yes you could say but they were criminals. but most of the crimes they committed were things like stealing bread to survive, or stealing clothes so they wouldnt be cold. they lost there families, friends.

im not trying to side with my european side, but i just want things to be equal. i know europeans have put black people through a lot, but now, (here in australia) the way the government is making up for it is being OVERLY kind to aborignals. they dont pay tax, they dont have to pay to go to a private school, when they buy a car or a house, they actually get paid interest, im trying not to overgeneralize but most aboriginals dont have jobs. and my dad and his dad are very offended over it, because people automatically think there like that too, but there not. my dad has got a job, and refuses to let me go to my private school for free. he doesnt want to be treated like that. its not that they (or me) hate there own race, but they just wanna move on from the past and have everyone treated equal.
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hellomoto said:

I come from a very mixed background. Most of my family background is primarily Irish, Scottish, Native American/Spanish, and African. However, in American, it is stipulated in the constitution that if you have a certain amount of Black in you then you are regarded as Black. I don't if you are aware if the many injustices that Black Amercians experience but, it makes your situation look ideal compared to what has been going on in the US. All I can tell you is to feel blessed that at least your country is willing to atone for there wrong and supposedly try to treat everyone equal.
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Hotlegs said:

you know what? your right. and i agree

Hotlegs said:

Great stuff.

Here in America, we're still dealing with the legacy of slavery. I don't care how light you are, one drop of black blood makes you 'black'(which isn't a bad thing). Both my parents have (American)Indian blood, but that meant nothing to me. I've always considered myself black. It's my culture & my heritage. And I get angry when I see black folks(especially these celebrities) trying to distance themselves from who they are. F--- that sh!t. I don't care if society considers being black a negative, doesn't mean you have to buy into it. Be proud of who you are, and embrace it.

uPtoWnNY said:

uhhhh, no black celebrity distances themselves from being black, what the hell are you talking about? can you answer this. if someone has even a little trace of white in them does that make them 'white'? im guessing your answer will be no, and i wanna know why is it one way for one race but different for another? thats pretty sad that you dont care about your indian blood. how can you get up someone for not caring about black blood, but then you go on about not caring for your indian blood?
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hellomoto said:

Hotlegs already told you why. I guess it's hard for outsiders to fully understand America's race issues.

uPtoWnNY said:

Hotlegs said:

well i obviously didnt understand, so care to explain more?

WHEN do they realize who lives and dies in a horror movie? They only did that because they know people hate her and will pay to see her die!


THANK YOU for saying what we are ALL thinking,,,,


Paris

Janfriend said:

just as i said. they are not a race. they are a sub-category of Caucasian. reading comprehension is a valuable skill when one is communicating via the written word. it is one i suggest you pick up.

Tessa said:

Wrong again. The mestizos are a sub-category of the mongoloids because they have more indigenous blood than anything

The Caucasoid Race denotes the peoples indigenous to Europe, N. Africa, West Asia and the Indian subcontinent and their descendants in other parts of the world. They mainly inhabit the land mass stretching from Spain to India's most eastern border and the African countries bordering the Mediterranean Sea.

The Mongoloid Race denotes most of the indigenous peoples of Asia plus the Eskimos and their descendants throughout the world including the North American Indians the Eastern Siberians, the Japanese, Koreans, Chinese, the Indonesians and Malays. They mainly inhabit the land mass stretching from Myanmar (a.k.a Burma) to the most eastern shores of Asia and the Arctic.

The Negroid Race denotes the indigenous peoples inhabiting the land mass of East, West, Central and South Africa and Melanesians of the S Pacific and includes their descendants throughout the world.

If you consider them part of the caucasoid race because they have some Spanish blood in them, you can, but most of them don't, especially in Central and South America. You failed to address the rest of my post because you can't answer it. I suppose you feel the black hispanics are caucasoid as well

Try to have an adult conversation without throwing insults

so does that mean mexicans are more related to asians, then whites?

on a side note, for some reason i always thought caucasion were asian people, and mongoloids were the white ones

Thank goodness I came to my senses. I had written out a 10 paragraph response to post here and was just about to when I realized I'm becoming part of what I was arguing against earlier in this thread. I was just about to waste 10 paraphs of my life to discussing this: Paris Hilton and all matters of race connected to her, and everything else this conversation has evolved into. Thank god I'm sane. But do, continue to rage on here about this if you really think Paris Hilton is a celebrity you want to remain famous; if you want to live in an insane world that has an insane celebrity stirring up insane reaction to something so completely irrelevant. Sayonara to this!

hellomoto said:

Yes