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Reply #90 posted 04/23/05 10:24am

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MattyJam said:

Should've left him to die if you ask me.


Man, chill.
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Reply #91 posted 04/23/05 10:25am

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doctormcmeekle said:

Cloudbuster said:

Okay. Let me know when it arrives. I'll bring the beer and oil. smile


Twiglets?

confused


You know what to do with them. batting eyes
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Reply #92 posted 04/23/05 10:33am

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Cloudbuster said:

doctormcmeekle said:



Twiglets?

confused


You know what to do with them. batting eyes

Makes my eyes water just thinking about it!

omg
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Reply #93 posted 04/23/05 5:55pm

nd33

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No. I no longer feel sorry or have sympathy for Michael Jackson. He's not the first person to have grown up with an abusive parent nor the first to do so and face stardom.


I think he is the 1st to have grown up with this magnitude of stardom. There is no-one who has endured such intensive scrutiny the world over for so long.
The other people mentioned on this thread may have had it tough, but as far as celebrity goes, they are flea's compared to MJ in probably 90% of countries in the world. Michael Jackson's rise was parallel to the rise of mass media and it's influence, that is a major factor.

How we could possibly begin to understand his mentality, I don't know...

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Reply #94 posted 04/23/05 6:01pm

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I feel bad for the way he grew up but he really has no excuse for having kids in his bed. How many of us have had no childhood? I sure as hell didn't, and even though I haven't always had the healthiest adult relationships at least I'm not using the fact that I had no childhood to hide from responsibility and adulthood. I only wihs MJ could have been forced to get counceling or help. He's needed it for a very long time.
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Reply #95 posted 04/23/05 6:43pm

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dag said:

Hummm....
No...

I knew you´d say that.

Anyways, there are things i feel sorry for about him, like vitiligo and this shit he´s been through right now, cause no matter if he was "responsible" for it as some of you say or not, he didn´t deserve it.

But I don´t feel sorry for him in general, I love him!


I can feel sorry for him at all...

Why ???
because he putted himself in this situation... And HE wanted it...
HE wanted to make surgery
HE wanted to be white
HE wanted to sleep with little kids so what can I say ??

He digusts me so much right now...

The only one question I've always wanted to ask him was "If you had the possibility to turn black again, would you do it ???"
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Reply #96 posted 04/24/05 1:48am

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I do feel sorry for Michael Jackson. He's a pathetic creature now. When I was a kid, he was the coolest thing ever. Now I look at him and find it hard not to laugh sometimes
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Reply #97 posted 04/24/05 7:06am

Cloudbuster

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doctormcmeekle said:

Cloudbuster said:

You know what to do with them. batting eyes


Makes my eyes water just thinking about it!

omg


batting eyes
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Reply #98 posted 04/24/05 7:28am

Cloudbuster

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krayzie said:

HE wanted to be white


I still don't buy that crap. I find the vitiligo story far more plausible than the skin bleaching one.
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Reply #99 posted 04/24/05 7:52am

squiddyren

How does one get as white as MJ from skin-bleaching alone? I've never seen that before and I've heard it's impossible. I believe he obviously has some sort of disease, and some of these up-close pics of his face.. that junk looks like heavy makeup, not bleach.
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Reply #100 posted 04/25/05 9:44pm

CinisterCee

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that junk looks like heavy makeup, not bleach.


I agree.
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Reply #101 posted 04/29/05 6:50pm

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Yes I do

Jacko knows he is a victim of child abuse. He proberly pities himself to unimaginable lenths. His self pitying is of course a cause of his child abuse.
Who knows why him and not his brothers? Maybe he really was just more sensitive naturally then the boys. Maybe the boys, like jermaine, do not know they are victims. Which is good really.

Once mike feels better about himself, through lots of years of therapy, then he'll be more normal. Self pitying to his degree leads to lots of surgery if u can afford it. That just makes him weirder of course. But he just never beleived he was gook looking in the first place.
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Reply #102 posted 04/29/05 7:29pm

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no
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Reply #103 posted 04/29/05 10:46pm

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there is a small part of me that wants to feel sorry for Michael Jackson..

but with all his means to do just about anything he wants,
I don't.

like it's been said elsewhere in this thread, "not having a childhood" does not entitle ANYONE to indulge in INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR. I am a 37-year old man, & if I shared a bed with a minor child - female or male - I should expect to find my behind in jail.


what I STILL don't get.. is how virtually NO ONE seems to be critical of the fact that Michael Jackson has used women - that very "homely" Debbie Rowe & that "anonymous" surrogate mother as INCUBATORS. it's
WRONG
for Michael - or any other adult - to intentionally, wilfully deny their children access to the other parent. it's already BAD ENOUGH that these children have to be out in public withs MASKS on their FACES..
they have to grow up without the love & attention that only a mother could give.

Michael says he "loves children more than anything else in the world"..
he's got a STRANGE way of showing it.


so NO, I don't feel sorry for Micheal Jackson, because HE created this crazy surrealistic world he lives in.

I feel sorry for his children, because their father - who BARELY has a grasp of REALITY - has obliged them to grow up without a mother.


this whole situation is a SAD, PITIFUL, CRYING shame.
disbelief
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in ALL MY DREAMS..
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Reply #104 posted 04/29/05 10:59pm

LightOfArt

mltijchr said:

there is a small part of me that wants to feel sorry for Michael Jackson..

but with all his means to do just about anything he wants,
I don't.

like it's been said elsewhere in this thread, "not having a childhood" does not entitle ANYONE to indulge in INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR. I am a 37-year old man, & if I shared a bed with a minor child - female or male - I should expect to find my behind in jail.


what I STILL don't get.. is how virtually NO ONE seems to be critical of the fact that Michael Jackson has used women - that very "homely" Debbie Rowe & that "anonymous" surrogate mother as INCUBATORS. it's
WRONG
for Michael - or any other adult - to intentionally, wilfully deny their children access to the other parent. it's already BAD ENOUGH that these children have to be out in public withs MASKS on their FACES..
they have to grow up without the love & attention that only a mother could give.

Michael says he "loves children more than anything else in the world"..
he's got a STRANGE way of showing it.


so NO, I don't feel sorry for Micheal Jackson, because HE created this crazy surrealistic world he lives in.

I feel sorry for his children, because their father - who BARELY has a grasp of REALITY - has obliged them to grow up without a mother.


this whole situation is a SAD, PITIFUL, CRYING shame.
disbelief


Can't wait to see DavidEye joining in the conversation with his " nod " smilie. How I hate that emoticon mad

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Reply #105 posted 04/29/05 11:38pm

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It would take a LOT for me to muster any sympathy for a multi-millionaire who's fallen on hard times. Especially one who should be a multi-billionaire but for his own wastefulness and stupidity.


And I did almost feel sorry for him in the fall of 2003 when all of this started back up again. But he brings all of this on himself. Now, if he's really that fucking stupid that he just plain doesn't know to eliminate any children that aren't his own out of his life after 1993, then he's deserving of sympathy. But I find it very hard to believe that he's that big an idiot.
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Reply #106 posted 04/30/05 3:31am

Hotlegs

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From getting whippings from his father, no childhood, plastic surgery, his skin turning pale white, rumours being made by tabloids, the media calling him "Wacko Jacko", his behavior, accused of sexual abuse twice, tarnished reputation and career, baby incident, having sleepovers with kids that are not related to him.

A stunning rise to superstardom turned into a nightmare.

So I want to know; do you feel sorry for Michael for what he's been through?


Well, you know what in MJ case he kind of set his on ass up by fuckin around with little boys. When MJ got out of that other situation scott free, he should've left them damn kids alone and went into seclusion.
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Reply #107 posted 04/30/05 4:08am

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Cloudbuster said:

krayzie said:

HE wanted to be white


I still don't buy that crap. I find the vitiligo story far more plausible than the skin bleaching one.


BULLSHIT !!!!!

No sense to me...

Why Michael Jackspon hasn't spend all his money he got in makeup to stay BLACK like would do any normal black man???

With ALL THE FUCKIN MONEY HE GOT ???

Why Mike didn't admit he suffered of Vitiligo in the Bad era when it was obvious that his skin was gettin whiter...
Why he made all this surgery on his face to have WHITE FEATURES (small nose, thin lips, straight hair etc...)
Why MJ has never dated a BLACK women in his entire LIFE but only WHITE WOMEN??
WHY his kids are ALL WHITE AS HELL ????
Why her sister LAtoya made a lot of surgery TO BE WHITE, and look scary like MIKE ???
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Reply #108 posted 04/30/05 4:17am

AsianBoi777

krayzie said:

Cloudbuster said:



I still don't buy that crap. I find the vitiligo story far more plausible than the skin bleaching one.


BULLSHIT !!!!!

No sense to me...

Why Michael Jackspon hasn't spend all his money he got in makeup to staying BLACK like would do any normal black man???

With ALL THE FUCKIN MONEY HE GOT ???

Why Mike didn't admit he suffered of Vitiligo in the Bad era when it was obvious that his skin was gettin whiter...
Why he made all this surgery on his face to have WHITE FEATURES (small nose, thin lips, straight hair etc...)
Why MJ has never dated a BLACK woman in his entire LIFE but only WHITE WOMEN??
WHY his kids are ALL WHITE AS HELL ????
Why her sister LAtoya made a lot of surgery TO BE WHITE, and look scary like MIKE ???


Agreed. And his children don't have a hint of black in them.
I'm half asian, and I can tell you that white is a recessive gene for sure--and there is NOTHING wrong with that, but it definately is a recessive gene when it comes to features. He's kids have blonde hair for cryin' out loud.

I find all races for the most part attractive. I would sure as hell not kick Lucy Lu or Neome Campbell (sp?) out of bed--Like they'd ever want me to begin with.

But anyone who can't see the racial shame inside MJ is smoking crack. He has meticulously cultivated a "whitening" of his appearence for a long long time. But the whiter he gets, the scarier he gets. When you look at his face now, you can't help but think that there is something seriously seriously wrong with him. There isn't a person on earth that looks at that face and wants to jump his bones.

I feel sorry for him in a sense, but the fact is alot of us have had rough childhoods--we're men now, and whether we like it or not, we have a certain responsibility that extends ouside of our own selfish wishes. Dolling yourself up into some pale wannabe-white character sends a very bad message to his fans, and minority children everwhere.

There is no way in hell his appearance is due to vitaligo--Sure, he might have had the disease to some extent, but the whietening would have accurred with or without that.
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Reply #109 posted 04/30/05 5:22am

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krayzie said:

Cloudbuster said:

I still don't buy that crap. I find the vitiligo story far more plausible than the skin bleaching one.


BULLSHIT !!!!!

No sense to me...

Why Michael Jackspon hasn't spend all his money he got in makeup to staying BLACK like would do any normal black man???

With ALL THE FUCKIN MONEY HE GOT ???

Why Mike didn't admit he suffered of Vitiligo in the Bad era when it was obvious that his skin was gettin whiter...
Why he made all this surgery on his face to have WHITE FEATURES (small nose, thin lips, straight hair etc...)
Why MJ has never dated a BLACK women in his entire LIFE but only WHITE WOMEN??
WHY his kids are ALL WHITE AS HELL ????
Why her sister LAtoya made a lot of surgery TO BE WHITE, and look scary like MIKE ???


I'm not even gonna waste my time. lol
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Reply #110 posted 04/30/05 6:26am

hellomoto

krayzie said:

Cloudbuster said:



I still don't buy that crap. I find the vitiligo story far more plausible than the skin bleaching one.


BULLSHIT !!!!!

No sense to me...

Why Michael Jackspon hasn't spend all his money he got in makeup to stay BLACK like would do any normal black man???

With ALL THE FUCKIN MONEY HE GOT ???

Why Mike didn't admit he suffered of Vitiligo in the Bad era when it was obvious that his skin was gettin whiter...
Why he made all this surgery on his face to have WHITE FEATURES (small nose, thin lips, straight hair etc...)
Why MJ has never dated a BLACK women in his entire LIFE but only WHITE WOMEN??
WHY his kids are ALL WHITE AS HELL ????
Why her sister LAtoya made a lot of surgery TO BE WHITE, and look scary like MIKE ???
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why the hell would anyone waste money on loads of black foundation when most there body would be white, and it would be easier to just wear none, and plus he did do this during the bad era, he wore loads of make up to cover it, but the vitilgo got too bad. and actualy no normal person would do that like you said.

he probably didnt admit cos of people like you, he could have thought no one would believe him, you being an example of this, or he could have been embarrased about having the disease.

his nose was a product of thinkng it was too big and being bullied over it being too big, not wanting to be white. and ARE YOU BLIND? his lips arent thin at all!!!

maybe he's just attracted to white women, doesnt mean he wants to be white. im mainly attracted to mexicans, does that mean i wanna be mexican? no.

as for his kids, i dont belive there really his, although they could be. i have a friend whos dad is 100% black and her mum is white, and although my friend herself and her brother looked mix (well more like really tan white people, you cant even tell there aboriginal) there little sister is white as hell with blonde hair, theres no way on earth you would know her dad is 100% (australian)aboriginal. and plus i have seen pics of paris, she does look like she could be mixed.

just because latoya has surgery doesnt mean shes trying to be white either, and even if she is trying to be white, that doesnt mean michael is trying to be too.
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Reply #111 posted 04/30/05 7:46am

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AsianBoi777 said:

krayzie said:



BULLSHIT !!!!!

No sense to me...

Why Michael Jackspon hasn't spend all his money he got in makeup to staying BLACK like would do any normal black man???

With ALL THE FUCKIN MONEY HE GOT ???

Why Mike didn't admit he suffered of Vitiligo in the Bad era when it was obvious that his skin was gettin whiter...
Why he made all this surgery on his face to have WHITE FEATURES (small nose, thin lips, straight hair etc...)
Why MJ has never dated a BLACK woman in his entire LIFE but only WHITE WOMEN??
WHY his kids are ALL WHITE AS HELL ????
Why her sister LAtoya made a lot of surgery TO BE WHITE, and look scary like MIKE ???


Agreed. And his children don't have a hint of black in them.
I'm half asian, and I can tell you that white is a recessive gene for sure--and there is NOTHING wrong with that, but it definately is a recessive gene when it comes to features. He's kids have blonde hair for cryin' out loud.

I find all races for the most part attractive. I would sure as hell not kick Lucy Lu or Neome Campbell (sp?) out of bed--Like they'd ever want me to begin with.

But anyone who can't see the racial shame inside MJ is smoking crack. He has meticulously cultivated a "whitening" of his appearence for a long long time. But the whiter he gets, the scarier he gets. When you look at his face now, you can't help but think that there is something seriously seriously wrong with him. There isn't a person on earth that looks at that face and wants to jump his bones.

I feel sorry for him in a sense, but the fact is alot of us have had rough childhoods--we're men now, and whether we like it or not, we have a certain responsibility that extends ouside of our own selfish wishes. Dolling yourself up into some pale wannabe-white character sends a very bad message to his fans, and minority children everwhere.

There is no way in hell his appearance is due to vitaligo--Sure, he might have had the disease to some extent, but the whietening would have accurred with or without that.



Thank you, AsianBoi & krayzie, for telling it like it is.
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Reply #112 posted 04/30/05 8:42am

BoOTyLiCioUs

Thank you, AsianBoi & krayzie, for telling it like it is.


rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes rolleyes Funny how barely anyone in here who has said that Michael has bleached his skin hasn't done any research on the skin diease. He has it. I've seen people with the disease. His plastic surgeon even said he had vilatgo. That should tell u something. Yes, he has a skin disorder. He might have issues with his skin color also...I don't know. I can't answer that. I don't know.


Why MJ has never dated a BLACK women in his entire LIFE but only WHITE WOMEN??


actually, he did date black women. The media never put any attention on it. He dated Stephanie Mills.

Can't wait to see DavidEye joining in the conversation with his " " smilie. How I hate that emoticon




Lol. I know how u feel.


BULLSHIT !!!!!

No sense to me...


Well nothin does, if it contridicts what u believe to be true.

It's funny how most of the black people on here think he bleached his skin while the white people think he has a skin disorder. It's an issue that Michael didn't act black enough for the black people.
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Reply #113 posted 04/30/05 9:02am

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How is it possible to have gone from THAT black to THAT white from skin-bleaching alone? Never before have I seen this.
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Reply #114 posted 04/30/05 9:41am

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i didnt buy the whole vertiligo thing at first but its pretty obvious from some of the recent court appearances that he has it...and the blotches appear to be pink so i can understand why he would bleach his skin to make it easier for him to discuss the blemishes.....but he still had to have bleached some parts of his skin.....but thats reasonable. i would do the same if i had the disease?

wouldnt anyone? if they had the money?
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Reply #115 posted 04/30/05 10:34am

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Nope, not in the least.

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Reply #116 posted 04/30/05 11:03am

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krayzie said:

Cloudbuster said:



I still don't buy that crap. I find the vitiligo story far more plausible than the skin bleaching one.


BULLSHIT !!!!!

No sense to me...

Why Michael Jackspon hasn't spend all his money he got in makeup to stay BLACK like would do any normal black man???

With ALL THE FUCKIN MONEY HE GOT ???

Why Mike didn't admit he suffered of Vitiligo in the Bad era when it was obvious that his skin was gettin whiter...
Why he made all this surgery on his face to have WHITE FEATURES (small nose, thin lips, straight hair etc...)
Why MJ has never dated a BLACK women in his entire LIFE but only WHITE WOMEN??
WHY his kids are ALL WHITE AS HELL ????
Why her sister LAtoya made a lot of surgery TO BE WHITE, and look scary like MIKE ???
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[Edited 4/30/05 5:34am]


lol lol lol lol lol

This shit is too funny!

To answer the question: Hell nah, I don't feel sorry.
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #117 posted 04/30/05 2:01pm

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mltijchr said:

there is a small part of me that wants to feel sorry for Michael Jackson..

but with all his means to do just about anything he wants,
I don't.

like it's been said elsewhere in this thread, "not having a childhood" does not entitle ANYONE to indulge in INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR. I am a 37-year old man, & if I shared a bed with a minor child - female or male - I should expect to find my behind in jail.


what I STILL don't get.. is how virtually NO ONE seems to be critical of the fact that Michael Jackson has used women - that very "homely" Debbie Rowe & that "anonymous" surrogate mother as INCUBATORS. it's
WRONG
for Michael - or any other adult - to intentionally, wilfully deny their children access to the other parent. it's already BAD ENOUGH that these children have to be out in public withs MASKS on their FACES..
they have to grow up without the love & attention that only a mother could give.

Michael says he "loves children more than anything else in the world"..
he's got a STRANGE way of showing it.


so NO, I don't feel sorry for Micheal Jackson, because HE created this crazy surrealistic world he lives in.

I feel sorry for his children, because their father - who BARELY has a grasp of REALITY - has obliged them to grow up without a mother.


this whole situation is a SAD, PITIFUL, CRYING shame.


disbelief







WELL SAID!
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Reply #118 posted 04/30/05 8:23pm

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I feel bad that such a promising individual grew up to be such a fucking sad & confused freak.
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Reply #119 posted 04/30/05 8:36pm

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I feel bad that such a promising individual grew up to be such a fucking sad & confused freak.

nod Damn Right.
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