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Printablelilgish, are you suggesting, that song has all the answers to why MJ is the way he is? | |
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jayaredee said: lilgish, are you suggesting, that song has all the answers to why MJ is the way he is?
it tells what happened 10 years ago from when he wrote it. yes. Parts of it also deal with the incident where his bothers through him in a hotel room with two hookers. Where's your avatar by the way?  [Edited 4/20/05 10:48am] | |
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lilgish said: jayaredee said: lilgish, are you suggesting, that song has all the answers to why MJ is the way he is?
it tells what happened 10 years ago from when he wrote it. yes. Parts of it also deal with the incident where his bothers through him in a hotel room with two hookers. Where's your avatar by the way?
[Edited 4/20/05 10:48am] My MJ avatar? LOL I will bring it back soon, i can't find anything to replace it with | |
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jayaredee said: lilgish said: it tells what happened 10 years ago from when he wrote it. yes. Parts of it also deal with the incident where his bothers through him in a hotel room with two hookers. Where's your avatar by the way?
[Edited 4/20/05 10:48am] My MJ avatar? LOL I will bring it back soon, i can't find anything to replace it with How bout True Blue era Madonna? | |
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lilgish said: jayaredee said: My MJ avatar? LOL I will bring it back soon, i can't find anything to replace it with How bout True Blue era Madonna? Hey you know more about Madonna than i thought... Anyways no Madonna avatars. since im a big fan, it works against me when trying to defend her, because everyone goes "oh go figure, his avatar says it all." | |
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lilgish said: 0V3RF13ND said: as a thinking man, i must call attention to the fact that there is much truth to what lilgish posted as an adult dealing with the aftermath of molestation, it's hard to extend sympathy Live and sin, ten years ago on this day My heart was yearning I promised I would never be returning Where my baby broke my heart And left me yearning As we walked into the room There were faces starring, Glaring, tearing through me Someone said welcome to your doom Then they smiled with eyes, that looked as if they knew me. This is scaring me! We walked up the stairs Still concealing gloom There were two girls sitting in my room She walked up to my face And said this is the place, You said meet you right here at noon Chorus: This is Heartbreak hotel Welcome to Heartbreak hotel Hope is dead. She thought that I had cheated for another lover I turn my back to see that I’m undercover Now I can’t convince this girl there ain’t no other Someone’s evil to hurt my soul Every smile’s a trial thought in beguile to hurt me Then the man next door had told He’s been here in tears for fifteen years This is scaring me! Bridge: We came to this place, where the vicious dwell And found that wicked women Run this strange hotel There was Sefra and Sue, Every girl that I knew And my baby said love is through [Edited 4/20/05 10:27am] I mean, MJ mentioned millions of times about the groupies the brothers slept with. That's no secret. I can't put my finger on what this song is trying to get acrosss. Maybe im looking too hard. | |
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I won´t argue with you guys anymore. I´ve said what I wanted. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Jack still cries day and night
Jack's not happy with his life He want to do this, he want to do that You want to be kind, but ends up flat for love For love He tries so hard to give a lot He wants to be what he is not Love's not harsh and love's not bad And what's he doing for love is so bad (He wants to be so bad) (He wants to be so bad) All the time getting in Things he can't get out Something deep inside of him Eating up the pride of him That makes him buy things for the girls (That's what you get for being polite) (For being polite) Jack still sits all alone He lives the world that is his own He's lost in thought of who to be I wish to God that he would see just love Give him love He tries so hard to give a lot He wants to be what he is not Love's not harsh and love's not bad And what's he doing for love is so sad (He wants to be so bad) (He wants to be so bad) All the time getting in Things he can't get out Something deep inside of him Eating up the pride of him That makes him buy things for the girls (That's what you get for being polite) (For being polite) (Jack still) Tryin' to make you happy, but... (Jack still) Tryin' to make you happy, but... (Jack still) Tryin' to make you happy, but he's not, but he's not (Jack still) Tryin' to make you, but don't you know he cries (Jack still) Don't you know he's scared (Jack still) It's often for his love, it's for his love Don't you know he often cries about you He cries about me He cries about you (You) and me (And me) And every little thing that's in his way He cries about me He cries about you (You) and me (And me) Know that he deserves to cry (Jack still) Don't you know he cries (Jack still) Don't you know he's scared (Jack still) It's often for his love, yeah, yeah Don't you know, don't you know, don't you know, don't you know Don't you know, don't you know, don't you know, don't you know He cries, he cries because there is a lack of love | |
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krayzie said: Jack still cries day and night
Jack's not happy with his life He want to do this, he want to do that You want to be kind, but ends up flat for love For love He tries so hard to give a lot He wants to be what he is not Love's not harsh and love's not bad And what's he doing for love is so bad (He wants to be so bad) (He wants to be so bad) All the time getting in Things he can't get out Something deep inside of him Eating up the pride of him That makes him buy things for the girls (That's what you get for being polite) (For being polite) Jack still sits all alone He lives the world that is his own He's lost in thought of who to be I wish to God that he would see just love Give him love He tries so hard to give a lot He wants to be what he is not Love's not harsh and love's not bad And what's he doing for love is so sad (He wants to be so bad) (He wants to be so bad) All the time getting in Things he can't get out Something deep inside of him Eating up the pride of him That makes him buy things for the girls (That's what you get for being polite) (For being polite) (Jack still) Tryin' to make you happy, but... (Jack still) Tryin' to make you happy, but... (Jack still) Tryin' to make you happy, but he's not, but he's not (Jack still) Tryin' to make you, but don't you know he cries (Jack still) Don't you know he's scared (Jack still) It's often for his love, it's for his love Don't you know he often cries about you He cries about me He cries about you (You) and me (And me) And every little thing that's in his way He cries about me He cries about you (You) and me (And me) Know that he deserves to cry (Jack still) Don't you know he cries (Jack still) Don't you know he's scared (Jack still) It's often for his love, yeah, yeah Don't you know, don't you know, don't you know, don't you know Don't you know, don't you know, don't you know, don't you know He cries, he cries because there is a lack of love Great Song! by chance do you hear him say he's gay in that song. "Don't you know he's gay" | |
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jn2 said: DavidEye said: My gut feelings tell me that Mike will survive these latest charges,but the question remains....what happens next? Is he finally gonna get help and deal with his problems once and for all? Will the sleepovers continue? Will he still continue to cling to his childhood? Will he be accused of molesting a child in the future? Seriously,unless he finally gets help,he will be in trouble again.
I think that after this lawsuit, after his innocence will be proven ( yes I think he's innocent now), he should tell the truth about his kids and stop this silly masks circus. My heart skipped a beat when you said that! 
you know out of all the things said that made my heart melt this one though was the best CinisterCee: You know, if he resented having working through his childhood, he could have made the decision to leave the business once he became an adult. How can you "feel sorry" for him, when alot of this stuff was based on Michael's own decision making? I do feel sorry that he has vitiligo, though. "I remember YEAAAAARS ago, we got into an argument about MJ's skin color and you told me you just couldn't believe he had vitiligo We've come a long way since then...  | |
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kisscamille said: Cloudbuster said: So much compassion here.
I listened to Off the Wall the other day and it made me sad to think of what's become of him. . I honestly thought I was the only one who feels that way when listening to an old MJ album. I don't feel sorry for Michael at all. He's chosen the path that he's walking in. Having said that, I do believe that he can get it together if he chooses to. I truly hope that whatever happens with the trial, I hope he gets the revelation that things MUST CHANGE. All I and anyone else can do for him now is pray for him and his family. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Im tired of seeing MJ feel sorry for MJ. He always had his sympathy story of having no childhood and having to "sweat and record" for the recording business. But the way he states it when not on a crucified vibe is that he ENJOYED going to work in the studio, the fame, the fortune, the work. He always made it out that he was looking out the window watching kids playing jax ands yearning to go out there with them. Lie.
And MJ has lived 3 childhoods already to make up for it anyways. Do I feel sorry for Michael Jackson? Hell and No. | |
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DiamondGirl said: Im tired of seeing MJ feel sorry for MJ. He always had his sympathy story of having no childhood and having to "sweat and record" for the recording business. But the way he states it when not on a crucified vibe is that he ENJOYED going to work in the studio, the fame, the fortune, the work. He always made it out that he was looking out the window watching kids playing jax ands yearning to go out there with them. Lie.
And MJ has lived 3 childhoods already to make up for it anyways. Do I feel sorry for Michael Jackson? Hell and No.  Too true.
I also get a little melancholy when I hear Michael's music these days. The songs that use to give me a natural high just bring me down when I think of all that's happened. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: DiamondGirl said: Im tired of seeing MJ feel sorry for MJ. He always had his sympathy story of having no childhood and having to "sweat and record" for the recording business. But the way he states it when not on a crucified vibe is that he ENJOYED going to work in the studio, the fame, the fortune, the work. He always made it out that he was looking out the window watching kids playing jax ands yearning to go out there with them. Lie.
And MJ has lived 3 childhoods already to make up for it anyways. Do I feel sorry for Michael Jackson? Hell and No. Too true.
I also get a little melancholy when I hear Michael's music these days. The songs that use to give me a natural high just bring me down when I think of all that's happened. I get very melancholy when I hear Off The Wall cd or pre-Thriller songs. Especially Triumph and Jacksons with Show You The Way and Good Times. I swear the MJ of today is a different person. I mean really an actual different person. | |
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Cloudbuster said: jayaredee said: But Peter Pan never molested kids...
And maybe Mike never did, either. Try and keep an open mind, man.  I don't feel sorry for him, I don't much care for him at all n fact, but I really, really hope the allegations are untrue. | |
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lilgish i've done my homework. i even know the hooker story. i just haven't reached the same conclusion as you have.
"dick god"?? | |
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CinisterCee said: lilgish i've done my homework. i even know the hooker story. i just haven't reached the same conclusion as you have.
whatever conclusions, we all agree mike needs help or guidance, hopefully he gets some after the "case". | |
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jayaredee said: lilgish said: Live and sin, ten years ago on this day My heart was yearning I promised I would never be returning Where my baby broke my heart And left me yearning As we walked into the room There were faces starring, Glaring, tearing through me Someone said welcome to your doom Then they smiled with eyes, that looked as if they knew me. This is scaring me! We walked up the stairs Still concealing gloom There were two girls sitting in my room She walked up to my face And said this is the place, You said meet you right here at noon Chorus: This is Heartbreak hotel Welcome to Heartbreak hotel Hope is dead. She thought that I had cheated for another lover I turn my back to see that I’m undercover Now I can’t convince this girl there ain’t no other Someone’s evil to hurt my soul Every smile’s a trial thought in beguile to hurt me Then the man next door had told He’s been here in tears for fifteen years This is scaring me! Bridge: We came to this place, where the vicious dwell And found that wicked women Run this strange hotel There was Sefra and Sue, Every girl that I knew And my baby said love is through [Edited 4/20/05 10:27am] I mean, MJ mentioned millions of times about the groupies the brothers slept with. That's no secret. I can't put my finger on what this song is trying to get acrosss. Maybe im looking too hard. ? I;ve always noticed his very agressive way towards women in general. Like all those "woman as predator" songs he does so well. Like "she drives me wild" "dangerous" "invincible" "2 bad" "dirty diana" "can't let her get away" "monkey business" "cheater" "heartbreaker".....I feel mike is threatened by anyone who wants him sexually. I feel that, as I felt like that too as I was abused sexually as a kid. Of course we don't know if he was, but those songs may suggest he did. Just a theory..... | |
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doctormcmeekle said: I don't feel sorry for him, I don't much care for him at all n fact, but I really, really hope the allegations are untrue.
He says you're not getting your porn back. | |
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thesexofit said: ? I;ve always noticed his very agressive way towards women in general. Like all those "woman as predator" songs he does so well. Like "she drives me wild" "dangerous" "invincible" "2 bad" "dirty diana" "can't let her get away" "monkey business" "cheater" "heartbreaker".....I feel mike is threatened by anyone who wants him sexually. I feel that, as I felt like that too as I was abused sexually as a kid. Of course we don't know if he was, but those songs may suggest he did. Just a theory..... Maybe Michael Jackson is GAY... | |
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krayzie said: thesexofit said: ? I;ve always noticed his very agressive way towards women in general. Like all those "woman as predator" songs he does so well. Like "she drives me wild" "dangerous" "invincible" "2 bad" "dirty diana" "can't let her get away" "monkey business" "cheater" "heartbreaker".....I feel mike is threatened by anyone who wants him sexually. I feel that, as I felt like that too as I was abused sexually as a kid. Of course we don't know if he was, but those songs may suggest he did. Just a theory..... Maybe Michael Jackson is GAY... ? Maybe? But I think he is just scared for a girl to get close to him sexually. | |
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You guys are too funny.
One question... Has anyone here actually met Michael and spent a considerable amount of time with him? No? Then you are in no position to state whether he needs "help" or not. No matter how many things you think you know about his life. | |
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WildStyle said: You guys are too funny.
One question... Has anyone here actually met Michael and spent a considerable amount of time with him? No? Then you are in no position to state whether he needs "help" or not. No matter how many things you think you know about his life. I hear you, man. However, I do think Mike could do with a little help concerning his arrested development. He's obviously very emotionally challenged and I do think he needs encouragement to deal with his past. It's unhealthy of him to cling that part of his life. He needs to move on. I'm not suggesting he should stop hanging out with children completely. Hell, even I love hanging out with children, my family's home is always full of them as my Mum and Stepdad are foster parents. But MJ needs a better balance in his life, that's all. He'll have my sympathy and respect until it's proven beyond doubt that he's a paedophile. I hope that day never comes. | |
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You guys are too funny.
One question... Has anyone here actually met Michael and spent a considerable amount of time with him? No? Then you are in no position to state whether he needs "help" or not. No matter how many things you think you know about his life. I agree | |
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Krytonite said: From getting whippings from his father, no childhood, plastic surgery, his skin turning pale white, rumours being made by tabloids, the media calling him "Wacko Jacko", his behavior, accused of sexual abuse twice, tarnished reputation and career, baby incident, having sleepovers with kids that are not related to him.
A stunning rise to superstardom turned into a nightmare. So I want to know; do you feel sorry for Michael for what he's been through? no, nope, not at all, not a little bit, Hell nah.....  | |
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Cloudbuster said: doctormcmeekle said: I don't feel sorry for him, I don't much care for him at all n fact, but I really, really hope the allegations are untrue.
He says you're not getting your porn back. Looks like I'll have to splash-out on some new stuff then! | |
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doctormcmeekle said: Cloudbuster said: He says you're not getting your porn back.
Looks like I'll have to splash-out on some new stuff then! Okay. Let me know when it arrives. I'll bring the beer and oil. | |
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Cloudbuster said: doctormcmeekle said: Looks like I'll have to splash-out on some new stuff then! Okay. Let me know when it arrives. I'll bring the beer and oil. Twiglets?  | |
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I'm sorry, I don't buy into the whole "he bought it on himself".
It's become increasingly obvious that the current accusers are lying through their back teeth. Sure, he put himself in a vulnerable position but it's not his fault if some lying-ass, good-for-nothing grifter family want to exploit his naivity/stupidity. These people are scum of the earth! I'm sure when MJ was paying for the little brats cancer treatment he didn't think he'd go and do something like this. Should've left him to die if you ask me. | |
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