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Printablepaligap said: okaypimpn said: Sad, but true.  It is sad... that Black Bull vault is probably filled to capacity with music that Stevie second guessed, and now no one gets to hear it...they can't even agree on a date for A Time To Love....I wish he was a little more like the Man from Minneapolis in that regard...with Prince, if you like, or don't like the latest album , fine, he can live with it either way...but it's coming out...you don't like it, catch the next one.... I remember background vocalist Jim Gilstrap, who worked with Stevie, once said that they would always hear some incredible music that they would beg Stevie to release, but it still hasn't seen the light of day... ... [Edited 4/20/05 11:53am] Yep. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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okaypimpn said: No, they just recognize artistry at its peak that's all.
There's many that think Songs was Stevie at his peak. Different strokes.   | |
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paligap said: I remember background vocalist Jim Gilstrap, who worked with Stevie, once said that they would always hear some incredible music that they would beg Stevie to release, but it still hasn't seen the light of day...
Yeah, I think I remember hearing Robert Margouleff and Malcolm Cecil (two of his engineers from '72-74) say the same thing. | |
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okaypimpn said: paligap said: I remember background vocalist Jim Gilstrap, who worked with Stevie, once said that they would always hear some incredible music that they would beg Stevie to release, but it still hasn't seen the light of day...
Yeah, I think I remember hearing Robert Margouleff and Malcolm Cecil (two of his engineers from '72-74) say the same thing. Yeah, You Know They've heard some good shit!!  I loved their T.O.N.T.O. bank of synthesizers they used with Stevie---you can see them in that promo video for "Living In The City", twiddling all the knobs and switches..." I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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paligap said: okaypimpn said: Yeah, I think I remember hearing Robert Margouleff and Malcolm Cecil (two of his engineers from '72-74) say the same thing. Yeah, You Know They've heard some good shit!! I loved their T.O.N.T.O. bank of synthesizers they used with Stevie---you can see them in that promo video for "Living In The City", twiddling all the knobs and switches...The workouts engineers and programmers had to go though for the doggone vintage synths! | |
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okaypimpn said: paligap said: Yeah, You Know They've heard some good shit!! I loved their T.O.N.T.O. bank of synthesizers they used with Stevie---you can see them in that promo video for "Living In The City", twiddling all the knobs and switches...The workouts engineers and programmers had to go though for the doggone vintage synths! The vintage synths are the shit, though! SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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paligap said: okaypimpn said: Yeah, I think I remember hearing Robert Margouleff and Malcolm Cecil (two of his engineers from '72-74) say the same thing. Yeah, You Know They've heard some good shit!! I loved their T.O.N.T.O. bank of synthesizers they used with Stevie---you can see them in that promo video for "Living In The City", twiddling all the knobs and switches...Their shit was so off the hook, the Isley's had to go get some! SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: paligap said: Yeah, You Know They've heard some good shit!! I loved their T.O.N.T.O. bank of synthesizers they used with Stevie---you can see them in that promo video for "Living In The City", twiddling all the knobs and switches...Their shit was so off the hook, the Isley's had to go get some! Yup! the Isleys grabbed both Cecil and Margouleff! "Sensuality", anyone? ... " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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paligap said: okaypimpn said: Yeah, I think I remember hearing Robert Margouleff and Malcolm Cecil (two of his engineers from '72-74) say the same thing. Yeah, You Know They've heard some good shit!! I loved their T.O.N.T.O. bank of synthesizers they used with Stevie---you can see them in that promo video for "Living In The City", twiddling all the knobs and switches...What kind of promo video is it? I know Spike Lee used this song for the "drug" scene of his 1991 film, Jungle Fever. Do you have the promo video. Check me out and add me on:
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silverchild said: paligap said: Yeah, You Know They've heard some good shit!! I loved their T.O.N.T.O. bank of synthesizers they used with Stevie---you can see them in that promo video for "Living In The City", twiddling all the knobs and switches...What kind of promo video is it? I know Spike Lee used this song for the "drug" scene of his 1991 film, Jungle Fever. Do you have the promo video. This was done around 1973...I don't have the complete song, but it seems like like the promo was done to show Stevie at work, laying down the tracks at the studio. It opens with him with his headphones on in the studio, singing the tune into the Mic while playing keyboards , then cuts to Stevie on drums, then back to keyboards , with Cecil and Margouleff in the background working with the TONTO bank of synthesizers, including the Moog...I've seen this clip on a couple of Stevie documentaries, and I think I have it on a 70's compilation video... ... [Edited 4/20/05 14:38pm] " I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout | |
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blackguitaristz said: okaypimpn said: The workouts engineers and programmers had to go though for the doggone vintage synths! The vintage synths are the shit, though! Fa'sho!!!! | |
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no contest really. even tho JTTSLOP is really good | |
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okaypimpn said: NakedPreacherLady said: SITKOL is a lengthy bugger, too.
Not to mention HIGHLY overrated. Overrated?? 
'SITKOL' is the best album of all time.It deserves every bit of praise that it receives  | |
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NakedPreacherLady said: There's many that think Songs was Stevie at his peak. Different strokes.
I'm one of those people
'SITKOL' is Stevie at his creative peak.No question about it. | |
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"Summer Soft" Summer Soft wakes you up with a kiss to start the morning off in the midst of herself playing Santa Claus she brings gifts through her breeze Morning rain gently plays her rhythmns on your window pane giving you no clue of when she plans to change to bring rain or sunshine and so you wait to see what she'll do is it rain or sun for you but it breaks your heart in two when you find it's October and she's gone and she's gone Summer's gone taking with her summer's play Winter wind whispers to you that he wants to be your friend but not waiting for your answer he begins forcing dangers' way with his breeze Morning snow plans to have a winterball for you to throw but just where or when he never lets you know if it's snow or clear days you'll find and so you wait to see what he'll do is it sun or rain for you but it breaks your heart in two cause you've been fooled by April and he's gone and he's gone Winter's gone you find it's October and she's gone and she's gone Summer's gone You've been fooled by April and he's gone' and he's gone Winter's gone 
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DavidEye said: NakedPreacherLady said: There's many that think Songs was Stevie at his peak. Different strokes.
I'm one of those people
'SITKOL' is Stevie at his creative peak.No question about it. Without a doubt, man. The problem I have with Plants is that Stevie favoured ambition over the actual songs. And for me it's all about good songs. There are far more genuinely good songs on SITKOL than on JTTSLOP. I dislike Plants for the same reason that I dislike The Rainbow Children. The songs became secondry to the concept. Never a good move, imo. | |
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Cloudbuster said: DavidEye said: 'SITKOL' is Stevie at his creative peak.No question about it. Without a doubt, man. The problem I have with Plants is that Stevie favoured ambition over the actual songs. And for me it's all about good songs. There are far more genuinely good songs on SITKOL than on JTTSLOP. I dislike Plants for the same reason that I dislike The Rainbow Children. The songs became secondry to the concept. Never a good move, imo.  | |
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paligap said: "Journey Through The Secret Life Of Plants" is a good example of the kind of thing Stevie really could be doing...a lot of fans didn't like it, but some music crtics, especially in Jazz publications, were hailing it at the time, and predicting that Stevie would become like Ellington, and go on to create several Jazz and classical pieces...instead he got stung by the other negative reviews, and now it seems unlikely that we'll ever see that kind of free flowing creativity again...
I remember when this album came out.People were shocked.They didn't know what to make of it.In my area,only one song got substantial airplay ("Send One Your Love").It was kinda like when Prince released 'ATWIAD' after 'Purple Rain'...such a radical departure. | |
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DavidEye said:
"Summer Soft" Summer Soft wakes you up with a kiss to start the morning off in the midst of herself playing Santa Claus she brings gifts through her breeze Morning rain gently plays her rhythmns on your window pane giving you no clue of when she plans to change to bring rain or sunshine and so you wait to see what she'll do is it rain or sun for you but it breaks your heart in two when you find it's October and she's gone and she's gone Summer's gone taking with her summer's play Winter wind whispers to you that he wants to be your friend but not waiting for your answer he begins forcing dangers' way with his breeze Morning snow plans to have a winterball for you to throw but just where or when he never lets you know if it's snow or clear days you'll find and so you wait to see what he'll do is it sun or rain for you but it breaks your heart in two cause you've been fooled by April and he's gone and he's gone Winter's gone you find it's October and she's gone and she's gone Summer's gone You've been fooled by April and he's gone' and he's gone Winter's gone
... [Edited 4/21/05 2:06am] I love that song. It should've been a hit single and recieved a Grammy! Check me out and add me on:
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Yeah, it is a great song.
But that music at the end sounds like the soundtrack to 70s porn. | |
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Cloudbuster said: Yeah, it is a great song.
But that music at the end sounds like the soundtrack to 70s porn. Yeah, I thought that EP that came with the LP was a little misleading! Check me out and add me on:
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silverchild said: Yeah, I thought that EP that came with the LP was a little misleading!
In what respect? | |
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silverchild said: DavidEye said:
"Summer Soft" Summer Soft wakes you up with a kiss to start the morning off in the midst of herself playing Santa Claus she brings gifts through her breeze Morning rain gently plays her rhythmns on your window pane giving you no clue of when she plans to change to bring rain or sunshine and so you wait to see what she'll do is it rain or sun for you but it breaks your heart in two when you find it's October and she's gone and she's gone Summer's gone taking with her summer's play Winter wind whispers to you that he wants to be your friend but not waiting for your answer he begins forcing dangers' way with his breeze Morning snow plans to have a winterball for you to throw but just where or when he never lets you know if it's snow or clear days you'll find and so you wait to see what he'll do is it sun or rain for you but it breaks your heart in two cause you've been fooled by April and he's gone and he's gone Winter's gone you find it's October and she's gone and she's gone Summer's gone You've been fooled by April and he's gone' and he's gone Winter's gone
I love that song. It should've been a hit single and recieved a Grammy! This is probably my favorite song on the album....I think.It's nearly impossible to pick a favorite song! But yeah,it could have easily been a single.The thing is,even the non-singles from this album got massive airplay.I heard "Isn't She Lovely" on the radio so much,I assumed it was a single.Years later,I found out it wasn't,lol. | |
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Cloudbuster said: that music at the end sounds like the soundtrack to 70s porn.
what song(s) are you referring to?  | |
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DavidEye said: Cloudbuster said: that music at the end sounds like the soundtrack to 70s porn.
what song(s) are you referring to? what porns are you referring to  Vanglorious... this is protected by the red, the black, and the green. With a key... sissy! | |
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It's funny...I never pay attention to the music in a porn film | |
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Definitely Songs In the key of life. The first album alone is probably stevie's best next to Innervisions, and then you've still got the second LP and the bonus EP loaded with goodies  . Plants is good, but it's one of those albums that was initially confounding and perhaps underrated but then has become reflexively overrated in reaction like Prince's Parade or Marvin's Here My Dear. Songs, conversely is one of those albums that was extremely praised when it came out and then became underrated in reaction to how high it had long been held, like Sgt. Pepper. | |
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DavidEye said: what song(s) are you referring to?
Right at the end of Summer Soft. The music outro sounds just like 70s porn. | |
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Dancelot said: what porns are you referring to
DavidEye said: It's funny...I never pay attention to the music in a porn film
Can't blame you for that. The music's usually shit! | |
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DavidEye said: okaypimpn said: Not to mention HIGHLY overrated. Overrated??
'SITKOL' is the best album of all time.It deserves every bit of praise that it receives Sorry, David, gotta disagree with you there, brother. | |
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