Dangerous. For "Who is it" Michael most underrated songs IMO

Michael's doing rather well considering it's a Prince site.

Marrk said:

Post this question next door at the "Prince Music and More" forum and then we'd see a whole new talley

jayaredee said:

Post it at an MJ site and get laughed outta town.

Marrk said:

Well the MJ fans who lurk those boards are just as insane as MJ himself

MJ's 'Dangerous' has a few cool tracks,but it was too "trendy-sounding".In 1991,every R&B artist was making music like that.

Dangerous. For "Who is it" Michael most underrated songs IMO

lovedad43 said:

that video is off the chain....very stylish... i had to watch it a few times to understand it...

the videos from this album were phenomenal...remember they debuted them in prime time and everybody watched!! and talked about them the next day. Remember the time is my favorite...that dance scene is legendary...everybody at the club the next week was trying to fo that little "hands to the left, body to the right move"...except for the part where he's talking bout beingon the telephone and they're ancient Egypt

meltwithu said:

Can you help me understand the Who is It vid, cause i don't get it

jayaredee said:

you made me go get my Dangerous: The Short Films LASERDISC

from what i can gather...the main chracter is some kind of really priced call girl who deals with wealthy older men...the agency/people she works through go through lengths to make her over to whatever the image/fantasy these men want, kinda like a call girl "Alias"...that's why she has all the little metal name plates with different name sthe first guy she meets is the older black guy...then she goes and they make her over and she meets the guy in the wheelchair (ian somebody in real life, a soap actor, i think)...she lays on the bed, he takes off his respirator...meanwhile, the black guy finds out what she's really all about (a hoe) because he finds all her metal name plates she uses in a drawer...i think she tries to break away from the life she's leading she "escapes" from the people she works for and she goes back to the black guy to help her. he shakes his head "no, you're busted" the through the slot in the door while she's standing in the pouring rain and drops all her name-plates out the slot (busted!)...she has to go back to the people she works for, the first guy looks at her in disgust and then the lady boss smacks the shit out of her for trying to leave..then they whisk her away and get her ready for another "job"

MJ is in the video for the first minute and the last few seconds. I hadn't watched it in while, but this video is still bad-assed...looks great!
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meltwithu said:

The older black guy is a Private Investigator working for Michael, who i'm guessing is supposed to have had a short relationship with the girl, I always assumed that anyway. Once Mike founds out what she is, he's off. She wanted to leave the tawdry business but too late, Mike's in his helicopter and she's sadly back to work.

or something.

Marrk said:

thanks guys, and im sorry i made you drag out your laserdisc meltwithu, i have the dvd, i never knew it was on laserdisc.....

Both albums are certainly not either artist's best work by no means but I would say "Dangerous" is better for the song "Jam" alone.

jayaredee said:

MJ has sold out from day 1. Whatever the sound of the era is---that's what MJ will be doing.


Not that that is a bad thing.

skywalker said:

Oh please we're talkin about Michael Jackson here , not Madonna!!

MJ has sold out from day 1. Whatever the sound of the era is---that's what MJ will be doing.


Not that that is a bad thing.

kremlinshadow said:

Okay--let's look at it. I say this as a fan of MJ's music.

From mid to late 70's--- MJ and his brothers start with "Dancing Machine" and continue all the way through "Off the Wall" with instruments and arrangements that were very prominantly used by every disco/funk act at the time. Not saying their music wasn't good---it just was definitely a product of the era.

1982---Thriller hits. There are moments where MJ transcended the "sound" of the era (Billie Jean, Human Nature,Thriller). However, a lot of the album (while being brilliant) mostly sounds like the music of that era. "Beat it" is straight up Van Halen sliding guitars,etc. PYT, Baby be Mine--both are heavily rooted in the early 80's post disco dance sound that can be heard in several R&B /dance groups from that era. Not saying the music wasn't good-it was brilliant. Prince, on the other hand, pioneered his own sound in "1999." No one had or was doing that sound at the time.... Besides Prince's own groups.

1987--Bad. MJ found a drum machine and starts utilizing it and the key dominated sounds of the late 80's. Again, he has moments of transcending the era, but Bad (brilliant as it is) sounds like MJ using a lot of the sounds that were popular in the late 80's. Prince was doing "SOTT" and "lovesexy"--out there shit that no one was touching but him.

1991---Dangerous. Guess who likes New Jack Swing??? MJ and he and Teddy Riley do some Bobby Brown meets MJ style. Once again--some very very good stuff--but this one reeks of being from 1991. Heavy D????? Meanwhile Prince (Diamonds and Pearls) has thrown out his synths and has gone oldschool, earthy, 60's and 70's on us--with a rapper. Say what you want about Tony M--no one before had put a rap on a song like "Willin' and Able."

1995-----MJ recruits Prince's boys (and Janet's God's) to produce most of HIStory. Good material--still sounds like Music of the era. Shaq and Biggie on the same MJ album??? Prince puts out his Purple Rain of the 90's-The Gold Experience. This NPG is THE tightest incarnation yet and give The Revolution a run for their money.

2000----- MJ is the King of Pop and shows N'Sync and Britney how it's done. He also sounds like them too many times on this album. 2000 Watts??? Heartbreaker (who borrowed Ginuwine's frog noise?)

MJ's music is great. However, to claim that his sound isn't usually affected by what's popular at the time is ludicrous. No one in pop in guilt free of this, however, MJ (less so than Madonna) ALWAYS utilizes popular sounds of whenever he releases an album--he has said so himself.

Prince does too, but he always makes it sound purple. That is to say he melts t down with the MPLS sound.
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ive heard him say he doesnt like to follow trends

People always say - oh Dangerous is a new-jack album but the album only has about 3 tracks in that style ... so how they class it in that genre is beyond me !!